Debate @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST on the slippery slope of making loli porn illegal - At the user's own request.

[Inco G. Nito]

Your pfp is just the furry/zoophile version of a lolicon/pedophile dogwhistle

It's a cute, cartoon animal.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

My point is about mission creep in government and activist groups.

But your point doesn't really stand well, it's essentially the slippery slope argument. Slippery slopes do exist but you'd have to be an anarchist then, because having a government would be a slippery slope in and of itself.

There's no problem with banning things. Just ban bad things which should be banned, and promote good things (church, family, patriotism, etc). That's what any sane society should do. Banning loli is good.

If I had to guess I'd assume he's referring to how lolicons have tried to weaponize petite women to push lolicon, and how some retarded zoomers think a 2 year age gap between 20 year-olds constitutes as pedophilia.

I wouldn't call what he's saying weaponization, more like observation. On this very forum I've argued with a retarded woman who thought every anime girl was pedophilic, she said this image of Chichi is an image of a child (despite being an adult both in design and canon, and not even really petite):



People like them muddy the waters in this debate and aren't particularly rare. A child character is very obvious, or at least should be, they look nothing like that.

there is a very fair argument that short women attract more nonces, especially if flat chested

No there's not. Adults are adults, children are children. Do not blur the lines. The only possible exceptions may be one of those people with a rare medical condition that makes them retain a childlike appearance.

As well, the whole "Significantly younger than him who's still over the age of consent" also depends. If you're thirty five going to date a teenager in high school just because they're 19 I am going to call you a stupid nigger with pedo tendencies.

Adults are adults, children are children. Do not blur the lines.

It's a cute, cartoon animal.
Also, loving the "my source: Urban dictionary".

I mean...it seems accurate.

 

[Gravemind]

First off, it helps if you don't use run on sentences. Second off, expressing caution over the possibility of prosecuting thoughtcrimes isn't "fearmongering". Third off, I'm amenable to discussion when people talk to me and not through me. Preferably without run on sentences. Lastly, I would be making the same points if this bill was about violent video games, heavy metal music, comic books, or horror movies.

I don't think you know how run-on sentences, nor punctuation, works. I daresay you're reaching for anything you can to attack because you think it makes you sound smarter, even if it includes criticizing something that isn't even happening. Weird how we seem to be following a trend there. Also, the bill isn't about violent video games, heavy metal, comic books, or horror movies, so your point is moot. Quite frankly, it's disingenuous to conflate those things with depictions of minors in sexually explicit situations.

But, alright. There's two other, previous posts of yours that I wanted to address earlier, so I'll take the time to do so now:

I would say that true freedom means you have the ability to fuck your life up. You should have the freedom to choose what food you want to eat but should SUFFAH if you eat too much goyslop. You should have the freedom to skydive but should be willing to accept the chance your parachute doesn't open. You should have the freedom to live in an unsafe part of your country but should be willing to accept when someone breaks into your home and bends your thumbs backwards.

In that case, you should have the freedom to seek depictions of minors and CSAM but be willing to accept that you could be charged with a federal crime for doing so.

Seems like we're saying the same thing here, so what's the problem? It's still the same thing happening either way.

I agree, which is why I'm against these kinda thoughtcrime laws: they are going after effects instead of causes.

But you wouldn't be any happier if they were "going after causes" either because it would still be "government overreach", so... What's your point?

You can't have "These are problems that should be solved by society" while also saying what you said here in the same breath. And that's setting aside the whole conceptual process of the government being elected into their positions by said society, since you can always argue "muh corrupt government" and "muh lifer bureaucrats" as a counter, which, yes, but you're still conflating two different issues.

Uncle Sam wants to know how many guns I own so he can deem whether I'm armed in a fashion he considers appropriate? Fuck off. Shall not be infringed.
A singular state legislation passes a bill that further defines what's considered actionable SHOULD THEY FIND obscene material with no artistic, literary, historical, or scientific merit? Good on them. Not my problem. Hope it helps put away creeps that try to wiggle their way out of the consequences when they get themselves caught.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

let me guess you're one of those people

No.

You just pulled those out of your ass.

Wrong, stalker child. Australia has laws about women who merely look young appearing in pornography, from what I've read. As for the other case, I keep thinking about these posts:

Some aspiring members of the community tried to stage a fake “confrontation” from someone they managed to lure on Tinder, and got a mob of people to beat the shit out of this guy. Four of them got arrested.

It appears like they didn’t even do the pre-requisite of pretending to be underage either, so the guy thought he was meeting with an 18 year old on Tinder who was actually 18 in reality. She got arrested too.

Lol for bonus points, according to the article the guy is 22 aka a normal age for a college student to be. It's not even something skeevy but legal like a 40 year old being lured into sex with an 18 year old, it's just standard college behavior. What even, man. How do you forget the part where you're catching a predator? Gives credence to the idea that a lot of people involved with this fad aren't exactly here for altruistic reasons and really just like having the least sympathetic target possible to torment.

It really feels like most people understand the United States is run by pedophiles, but then they lash out at people for much lesser crimes, if any, because they know they can't go after the people in charge.

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

This thread will end up in the spergatory with at least 3 red strikes

 

[Whatevermancer]

You just pulled those out of your ass.

You haven't heard of the neverending backlash against Leonardo DiCaprio for dating women younger than 25? With people calling him a creep and a pedophile?

 

[NotClavicular]

It's a cute, cartoon animal.

That's exactly what a lolicon would say
Just replace 'animal' with 'girl'

Also, loving the "my source: Urban dictionary".

Well yeah this dogwhistle is somewhat esoteric
It's not like the ADL lists the various lolicon dogwhistles like 'cunny'


Keep in mind these definitions are added by lolicons themselves
They probably wouldn't use the word 'dogwhistle' though and instead would probably call it lolicon slang or whatever
They love doing this for some reason

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

it's disingenuous to conflate those things with depictions of minors in sexually explicit situations.

you know i would be on your side if it wasn't child porn

i like how this is literally the only thing keeping each other from agreeing

 

[Day of the Cope]

I don't think you know how run-on sentences, nor punctuation, works. I daresay you're reaching for anything you can to attack because you think it makes you sound smarter, even if it includes criticizing something that isn't even happening. Weird how we seem to be following a trend there.

Well, when I have to literally rewrite your sentence to make it make sense...

Also, the bill isn't about violent video games, heavy metal, comic books, or horror movies, so your point is moot. Quite frankly, it's disingenuous to conflate those things with depictions of minors in sexually explicit situations.

Yeah, it's not like all those things weren't used to signal the downfall of society.

In that case, you should have the freedom to seek depictions of minors and CSAM but be willing to accept that you could be charged with a federal crime for doing so.

Seems like we're saying the same thing here, so what's the problem?

I mean, yeah. Freedom means freedom to break the law and being punished accordingly. I have the freedom to try holding up a 7/11 and get riddled with bullets. I have made this clear.

But you wouldn't be any happier if they were "going after causes" either because it would still be "government overreach", so... What's your point?

Look at the War on Drugs. Instead of going after the cause (helping people get off drugs, locking up drug dealers, etc) they go after the effect (locking up people for non-violent drug use).

That's exactly what a lolicon would say
Just replace 'animal' with 'girl'

"If you find something cute, you must want to have sex with it" says a lot more about you than it does me.

It really feels like most people understand the United States is run by pedophiles, but then they lash out at people for much lesser crimes, if any, because they know they can't go after the people in charge.

That's the funny part of all this. Don't trust the government unless they do things you personally agree with.

There's no problem with banning things. Just ban bad things which should be banned, and promote good things (church, family, patriotism, etc). That's what any sane society should do. Banning loli is good.

Yeah, great idea... until people who disagree with you get into power.

 

[Endless Torment]

That's exactly what a lolicon would say
Just replace 'animal' with 'girl'

Google exists and you can find the artist.
Here are the things they say they won't draw:
I WON'T draw:
■ Harmful or hateful content
■ NSFW or fetish art
■ B*byfur, l*licon, or sh*tacon characters
■ Extremely complex mecha
■ Extreme gore

 

[Inco G. Nito]

i like how this is literally the only thing keeping each other from agreeing

I mean, what if possession/distribution/manufacture of fictional CSAM vs actual abuse were separate charges, the latter obviously carrying a much harsher punishment?
Actually I guess this is already sort of how the law is set up, just the former is almost never enforced(?).

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

I mean, what if possession/distribution/manufacture of fictional CSAM vs actual abuse were separate charges, the latter obviously carrying a much harsher punishment?

i think we should just fucking kill them after due process

 

[Whatevermancer]

That's exactly what a lolicon would say
Just replace 'animal' with 'girl'


Well yeah this dogwhistle is somewhat esoteric
It's not like the ADL lists the various lolicon dogwhistles like 'cunny'
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Keep in mind these definitions are added by lolicons themselves
They probably wouldn't use the word 'dogwhistle' though and instead would probably call it lolicon slang or whatever
They love doing this for some reason

I'm an imageboard dweller, so I know what "cunny" means, but this is the first time I've heard that "cute and funny" is a euphemism for "cunny".
How did you find this stuff?

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

HOW DO THESE THREADS KEEP FUCKING HAPPENING

 

[Day of the Cope]

HOW DO THESE THREADS KEEP FUCKING HAPPENING

Because time is a flat circle.

 

[Gravemind]

Well, when I have to literally rewrite your sentence to make it make sense...

Sounds like a specific, reading comprehension, "you" problem.

Yeah, it's not like all those things weren't used to signal the downfall of society.

What kind of legislation isn't some kind of signal for "the downfall of society" for people like you?

I mean, yeah. Freedom means freedom to break the law and being punished accordingly. I have the freedom to try holding up a 7/11 and get riddled with bullets. I have made this clear/

So what's the problem?

Look at the War on Drugs. Instead of going after the cause (helping people get off drugs, locking up drug dealers, etc) they go after the effect (locking up people for non-violent drug use).

So... What SHOULD they go after in order to curb people away from consuming CSAM content in any form? The people who produce it? Oh, wait.

It's almost like they're doing exactly that. How strange.

That's the funny part of all this. Don't trust the government unless they do things you personally agree with.

I can still mistrust the government even when they happen to be doing things I personally agree with. Just because they get one thing right doesn't mean they're not fucking up in other areas. These two things do not have to be mutually exclusive from one another.

HOW DO THESE THREADS KEEP FUCKING HAPPENING

Because @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST requested it, as I showed in the OP.

 

[Gunslinger Spawn]

Because time is a flat circle.

and you are a fucking retard

 

[NotClavicular]

Google exists and you can find the artist.
Here are the things they say they won't draw:
I WON'T draw:
■ Harmful or hateful content
■ NSFW or fetish art
■ B*byfur, l*licon, or sh*tacon characters
■ Extremely complex mecha
■ Extreme gore

Well well...
I used google lens on his pfp so I could verify what you said since you didn't link any source or screenshots


So the image links to a certain site and what did I see when visiting this link? The most haram thing

Spoiler: HARAM

(Gay cub zoophile porn)

Link (HARAM)

 

[Day of the Cope]

and you are a fucking retard

I'm on Kiwifarms, you don't have to tell me.

Sounds like a specific, reading comprehension, "you" problem.


What kind of legislation isn't some kind of signal for "the downfall of society" for people like you?


So what's the problem?


So... What SHOULD they go after in order to curb people away from consuming CSAM content in any form? The people who produce it? Oh, wait.

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It's almost like they're doing exactly that. How strange.


I can still mistrust the government even when they happen to be doing things I personally agree with. Just because they get one thing right doesn't mean they're not fucking up in other areas. These two things do not have to be mutually exclusive from one another.


Because @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST requested it, as I showed in the OP.

reddit spacing detected, opinion discarded.

 

[Gravemind]

reddit spacing, opinion discarded.

Third off, I'm amenable to discussion when people talk to me and not through me.

So, you're full of shit and I was right that you're only "amenable to discussion" when people agree with you. Good to know.