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Should be a wild four years.

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The fact that we have people out there, some even on this forum, STILL defending Fauci is absolutely baffling. You are either don't even know the bare minimum (in which case you shouldn't be talking about politics at all), or you gladly defend a career criminal.
Look if you aren't swayed by stuff like this then I don't know what to tell you...
Fauci is our lord and savior!
 
The fact that we have people out there, some even on this forum, STILL defending Fauci is absolutely baffling. You are either don't even know the bare minimum (in which case you shouldn't be talking about politics at all), or you gladly defend a career criminal.
Were you in a coma during the "Summer of Love?"
We now have actual statues of a violent fent-junkie criminal nig in this country. Today, right this very moment.

Its way past the time for you to adjust your expectations.
 
There is so much lawfare and jargen and legality around the whole thing i just dont give a crap if trump is using the stupidest legal loophole in the world. Its the politicians fault to getting us here in the first place. If Obama and Biden wouldnt been as horrible as they were, planting seeds of division and social unrest we wouldnt have a trump in the first place.

The word unconstitutional means nothings anymore with all of these bills and acts

Remember, trump was in the cool kids club until he went againts the norm
 
I wish Trump luck in this upcoming battle over the pardons. I have made my issues with several of the administration's decisions clear in this thread, both because I think its important to call things out as they happen and because I have an autistic impulse to interrupt the plan-truster echo chamber this thread often devolves into. But ultimately, he's the best shot we have and these are exactly the sorts of moves I'd like to see more of.

Picking fights like this that, if won, upset the established norms of our government and secure himself more power is exactly what he needs to be doing if he is serious about transforming this country. The way the country has been ran is not acceptable anymore, and incremental change is just another way of saying "slow death." America's favorite presidents have always boldly seized the power they needed to accomplish their agendas because Americans love winners and everyone hates losers. He just needs to maintain the momentum because every loss is an opportunity for things to stall out.

The possibility that a bunch of Biden-era ghouls will get hung out to dry is just icing on the cake.
 
I wish Trump luck in this upcoming battle over the pardons. I have made my issues with several of the administration's decisions clear in this thread, both because I think its important to call things out as they happen and because I have an autistic impulse to interrupt the plan-truster echo chamber this thread often devolves into. But ultimately, he's the best shot we have and these are exactly the sorts of moves I'd like to see more of.

Picking fights like this that, if won, upset the established norms of our government and secure himself more power is exactly what he needs to be doing if he is serious about transforming this country. The way the country has been ran is not acceptable anymore, and incremental change is just another way of saying "slow death." America's favorite presidents have always boldly seized the power they needed to accomplish their agendas because Americans love winners and everyone hates losers. He just needs to maintain the momentum because every loss is an opportunity for things to stall out.

The possibility that a bunch of Biden-era ghouls will get hung out to dry is just icing on the cake.
Cant wait to see this post be validations and confirmation to the redditors saying its kf admission to wanting a nazi regime
 
The evidence is circumstantial.... but it is solid enough to go forward on if we assume one last thing.
6: The only way to then disprove this evidence, is for Biden to testify under oath is is not true.And that opens up a ton of worms related to whether he is fit to... or even would.

Thank you on this topic or point.

I personally feel that presidents having a gentleman's agreement not to fuck with or go after their predecessors like say bush going after cliton or trump fucking with obama is a good thing.

Them breaking that agreement to fuck with trump after the 2020 fuckery needs to have consequences and this is damn near pretty good.

Fuck I wonder if all the covid lock down revisionism is people trying to get ahead of this shit,
 
The fact that we have people out there, some even on this forum, STILL defending Fauci is absolutely baffling. You are either don't even know the bare minimum (in which case you shouldn't be talking about politics at all), or you gladly defend a career criminal.
Which laws did he specifically violate? I haven't kept up with the man in a while. Last thing I read about him was one of his colleagues claimed he had expressed in private his belief COVID-19 might have leaked from the lab in Wuhan despite publicly dismissing the notion.
 
I hate this bitch loomer but this is a based take. She has a lot of based takes. Wait, I don't hate her. I hate her grifting tho.
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Oh, no, it's fine to late Loomer. She's a creepy grifting bitch who has some profoundly retarded takes.

She's kinda like Bill Maher... Sometimes he says something that seems sane, but he's a consistent dumpster fire. Same with Loomer.
 
The remote control stuff is dubious as those models don't have anything to affect the steering, and i think even for cybertruck, the self-driving stuff has to be added on as a pack to mechanically affect the steering.
Well, the prevalence of lane assist and this example from 2015 of a production car being remotely controlled by executing code on the fucking CD player sorta puts the lie to that.

Basic question: Are cars more or less computerized now than 10 years ago?

And a follow up: Are cars more or less likely to be constantly sending and receiving data signals with no user intervention than 10 years ago?

Now let's add people pairing their mobile device to the car's network. Thank god no one, especially a state-level actor, has pwned and remotely executed code on a smartphone!

EDIT: For those who weren't around, Micheal Hastings was killed in a Mercedes. The CD player hack IIRC was first publicly demonstrated on a Mercedes at Blackhat or DEFCON.
 
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If Trump is doing this there is a 99.9% chance he has evidence that's the case and is waiting on people to escalate so he can slam dunk them with it.
it does seem like an awfully big movement to make when you don't have any backing for it, which is why i suspect there must be more going on behind the scenes. not to mention the fact that news media has been fairly quiet about it all things considered.
 
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Which laws did he specifically violate? I haven't kept up with the man in a while. Last thing I read about him was one of his colleagues claimed he had expressed in private his belief COVID-19 might have leaked from the lab in Wuhan despite publicly dismissing the notion.
How about the fact that he lied to congress about his involvement with gain of function.
 
The pardons aren't going away. I don't know why anyone would think they would. Wishing really hard that Fauci gets the rope sadly won't make it happen.
I have a question, if a pardon is upheld does that mean that the person in the pardon can be questioned about the events and cannot refuse to answer? I thought someone said that if they refused to answer questions the pardon would be null?
 
Trump uses this to start the lawsuit, but then brings up the argument that Joe was demented and uses the case to prove he has cognitive issues. If that could be proved, that seemingly would be a stronger case for his pardons being null and void.
He cannot. The sole power to determine whether a president was cognitively able to perform his duties is vested in the Vice President (and the President that is accused of having cognitive issues). The Congress, of course, has the sole authority to resolve any dispute on the matter. The 25th Amendment gives no power to Trump in this case (or even to the courts)

you literally can't be forced to answer questions that will 'implicate' you.
You can if the prosecution promises to not prosecute you based on your answers. Failing to answer then can subject you to contempt of court. See, broadly, the whole Cosby debacle. If you want an easy one place to read about all of it, Pennsylvania Supreme Court detailed it all here.
A good one would be if the president of the united states did something to dispute your pardon.
You cannot claim both camps. Either the President can overrule the pardons and there is 5th Amendment applications, or the President cannot overrule pardons and there is not 5th Amendment applications. Again, the Cosby case dealt with almost the exact issue. The executive promised to not charge Cosby for his testimony thereby stealing his 5th Amendment rights. Afterwards they charged him based on the facts revealed by his testimony. The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania reversed finding that executive was bound by its promise even when the executive thought it was not. There is no special concerns arising from the executive disputing your legal immunities.
 
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