Alright George, you stupid faggot. Let's once again debunk your shit.
A pardon cannot be revoked once it has been delivered and accepted by the recipient
Biden issues blanket pardons for a bunch of people. How does one accept a blanket pardon? There's no actual crime being actively charged to them. There's no current investigation on any of these people that we know of. These pardons were just "If they try to charge you later". That is not a pardon. How does one legally accept a pardon for a crime that does not yet exist?
It becomes a valid and operative act that cannot be undone for any cause, even if it was obtained fraudulently.
That is also not true. The Constitution only protects the right of the President to pardon at their discretion. A pardon made by someone who isn't the President without the knowledge of the President and fraudulently using the signature of the President is treason. That is the claim Trump is making.
For conditional commutations, the authority to revoke remains in effect during the term of the original sentence, and can be revoked after the expiration of the commuted sentence but before its expiration.
Trump is claiming the President didn't make the pardons so the pardons are not valid. They were done by God knows who and if you were to uphold that in court, then fuck it. I'm writing Pardon to Null for everything and forever and all I have to do is Photoshop a screenshot of Donald Trump's fucking signature from the God damn meme to make it official. This is what you are actually advocating for.
Can you even refuse a presidential pardon? I don't think so. Not your call to make.
Yes you surprisingly can and it has been done before.
This is a losing battle. What trump should do is just start abusing the pardon system to pardon everyone of every crime ever until they completely remove the system. Or he could man up and clinton dey asses.
It's not a losing battle because it enables the Deep State to pardon their ilk forever for whatever they want. If they can actually get Roberts to not betray the American public for once....
Has such a thing ever been tested? The entire argument is that bidens autopen was either used without his approval, while coerced or when mental unwell. With such little precedent with these circumstances there some room for challenges. Also trying to frame fighting a administration covering there criminal buddys as evil is gay.
Nope. They can't just say he was mentally unwell because that isn't an excuse. It's just as equally possible it was done because he was mentally unwell but it's equally as possible it was done without his knowledge because he was mentally unwell. All it does it makes things worse for them and basically admits whoever controlled the auto-pen has an undeniable possibility for having gone rogue.
It's a dangerous precedent and should not be supported. Unless there is undoubted proof with hard evidence that Biden was forced, in fear of his life, to allow those pardons to pass, it needs to be left alone.
Trump's tweet insinuates he somehow has confirmation that Biden didn't know about the pardons. Which leads me to believe Biden told him he didn't know anything about most of them.
What does this accomplish? Biden’s pardons were morally wrong and I don’t like them, but there’s nothing good to be achieved by voiding them. And even if Biden was far too gone to understand what he was signing, I’m sure that old fuck and his handlers were all for it.
I don't understand why you think Joe or Jill like any of these people. Their deep state handlers weren't their friends. They have loyalty to each other. The Biden family is in shambles and honestly a lot of the old guard is at the end of their political and literal lives.
It should be noted that the use of an autopen is perfectly valid IF the signer is aware of what's being signed, why it's being signed, and has a valid reason for being able to sign it themselves. If a legal document signed by an autopen isn't valid if the person who's signature was being used wasn't aware of it, why should EOs or Pardons be any different?
Which again leads me to believe Trump wouldn't say this unless it was Biden himself who told him.
Burden of proof. As gone as I believe Biden was, I need to see undeniable proof he had no idea what was going on before I support anything related to un-doing a pardon that he, as the sitting president at that time, was fully within his power to grant.
Something I said the PG thread was that this makes perfect sense if Trump heard it from Biden first. If Biden was the one who said to Trump he didn't even know about the pardons, then all of this makes perfect sense.
