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Should be a wild four years.

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AncientPhosphur said:
Former Trump voter here. There is no plan. Trump is just insane. He’s tearing up alliances to help support Putin, his supporters have this insane idea that protesting at a Tesla station is terrorism, and the economy is collapsing while innocent citizens are getting disappeared in foreign nations without due process because they’re just brown.
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Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
 
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George Lucas said:
So just because you have 'dementia or Alzheimer' (which hasn't even been proven to be true), means you're actions as president are invalid? Seriously?
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Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.

Biden signed basically nothing. It's arguable he wasn't even vaguely aware of things signed in his name. Literally his entire presidency was Weekend at Bernie's. For four years the country was run by committee while propping up essentially a stuffed animal as the president.

Yes it's invalid. Nobody voted for the Pretend We Have A President Club to run the country. A human being became president, and he was not able to discharge those duties. Instead of being replaced, he was sidelined in his own administration.
 
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Black Man Underwear said:
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.

Biden signed basically nothing. Literally his entire presidency was Weekend at Bernie's. For four years the country was run by committee while propping up essentially a stuffed animal as the president.

Yes it's invalid. Nobody voted for the Pretend We Have A President Club to run the country. A human being became president, and he was not able to discharge those duties. Instead of being replaced, he was sidelined in his own administration.
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and now we get to watch absolutely nobody be held accountable
 
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Black Man Underwear said:
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.
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Congrats, you are the winner.

This is why all the retards here from the feature are so annoying. They preface their arguments with incorrect assumptions and it makes it infuriating to read and reply to them. To make it clear: Biden never authorized the pardons at all. We don't even know who actually authorized it and forged the signature, which implies a very serious crisis.
 
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Black Man Underwear said:
Nobody can argue with you because you preface everything incorrectly.

Biden signed basically nothing. Literally his entire presidency was Weekend at Bernie's. For four years the country was run by committee while propping up essentially a stuffed animal as the president.

Yes it's invalid. Nobody voted for the Pretend We Have A President Club to run the country. A human being became president, and he was not able to discharge those duties. Instead of being replaced, he was sidelined in his own administration.
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I hate to say this, because i hate the bitch but the best things the dems could have done for 2024's election would have been to get rid of joe a year into his election with the 25th and put Kamala in... actually no it would have been worse because Trump would have had the means to absolutely wreck her even more for being a terrible president.
 
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George Lucas said:
The Supreme Court has ruled that pardons can't be revoked. Who's the retard?
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But if a white house Aide signed Biden's name on the pardon without Biden's knowledge (and Trumps somehow manages to prove it) do we keep pretending the pardon was valid?

The logical, just answer is no, of course not. Biden didn't actually issue the pardon, his Aide committed fraud.

But the likely alternative is that the Supreme Court just slaps another piece of duct tape on Biden's legitimacy like's it's been doing from the start.
 
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Pod 042 said:
If anyone is guilty of "going after the Constitution" it's Biden's admin, by allegedly writing and signing these documents via autopen playing pretend president by proxy.
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But we all know that Biden is a drooling corpse who was never in power. The common man already knows this, as much as the Dems try to gaslight you. This isn't breaking news—the guy literally had to drop out of the race because of this. We can keep talking about it but this changes nothing. The press isn't suddenly going to admit that Biden was never in power either.

The autopen situation is fucked and I'm not claiming that Biden is a good boy, but Trump is playing with fire because he's literally going after the Constitution this time. Of course, the Founding Fathers wouldn't have known that 250 years later a crooked man and his staff would use an automatic pen to sign documents, but there's no legal framework for this. As others have pointed out, Trump can't just say that he can void official acts and carry on. There needs to be an actual interpretation of the pardon powers that I'm sure the SCOTUS, as cucked as they are, won't touch.

So again, how is this 4D chess if nothing really changes? People aren't going to suddenly revolt in the streets because Biden was illegitimate, and Dems are already forced to grin and pretend that Biden was a good president. Even the best outcome of all of this would be a retarded SCOTUS decision where they claim that everything an admin does, even if the president is braindead, is valid because they were vested in that authority.

On the other hand, if Trump continues to push this it will only be regarded as a Q Anon-tier conspiracy theory and as much you like Trump, he has cowish tendencies, so he'll look like a retard. Or are you just going to say Trump is pretending to be retarded for some long-term, fuzzy goal?
 
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The word "signature" does not appear in the Constitution a single time.

The word "sign" in the context of a President signing something only appears twice in regards to legislation from Congress.

The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Constitution as it was inscribed by Jacob Shallus on parchment (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum.) The spelling and punctuation reflect the original. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a...
www.archives.gov www.archives.gov
 
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