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[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Had one as a rental last year, it's awful to drive, handles like a busted shipping cart, loud interior, you'll feel cramped unless you're under 5'7" . Barely burns gas it felt like, though.

I owned a '20 Veloster N for a while before deciding I wanted to do the outdoors/truck thing instead.

Holy shit, that car was a riot to drive. Super quick, super communicative steering, grip for days and tail-out shenanigans just a lift (or stab at the brakes) away, plus comedy exhaust farts and bangs if you wanted them. Also reasonably practical and if you left the suspension, throttle response and exhaust in "normal" mode, it was just another slightly loud commuter hatch that happened to have a huge spoiler and was painted light blue.

Drove that thing like I stole it the whole time and did a few track days with it and loved every minute of it. I can't speak to lesser Velosters, but the N will be a future classic.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

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How do people feel about the Hyundai Veloster? Three doors is a strange layout and the only ones I've seen in person have been driven by wiggers but they seem fun.

The first gen Veloster isn't all that great but the second one is much better especially in the N trim. It's brash and rowdy as a hot hatch should be but it's not the quietest or a great daily driver if comfort is what you're after.

Should have indicated that I've already purchased a second car and that we already have a reliable econocar that Mrs Minto is driving. My bad.

Biggest concern was a quiet cabin at highway speeds over performance. Good tires is a good tip though. Any recs on quietish snow tires?

I've been bit by parts breaking on 30-year-old Japanese cars and have no interest in doing so again. Its easy to dream about importing JDM cars now that I'm making good money but I know its never that easy. I appreciate you guys looking out for me though


Good to know, makes sense that they've fallen out of production.


Not a horrible idea. Quiet and unassuming but still more performant than I'd ever really need. I'm not interested in the telemetry so I'll wait until people are jailbreaking them.

Parts support is going to be a big problem on any older car. USDM cars and Toyotas seem to be the worst when it comes to sourcing OEM or even OE parts. I've had incredible luck with finding new OE quality parts for old BMW as old as the E30. If you want good parts support, look into something German. Toyota isn't the hype.

 

[anklyscr]

Great news. You can get 12 grand off a new EV

https://www.thedrive.com/news/dodge-is-already-knocking-12500-off-the-charger-daytona-ev

weird how all of these car companies are struggling to sell these superior EVs.
How much money do Rivan , Ford et all give away with each EV?

 

[BeckhoffAX5702]

Great news. You can get 12 grand off a new EV

https://www.thedrive.com/news/dodge-is-already-knocking-12500-off-the-charger-daytona-ev

weird how all of these car companies are struggling to sell these superior EVs.
How much money do Rivan , Ford et all give away with each EV?

I mean, if car companies had their way, they would've dropped EV's entirely and you'd have only handful of dedicated EV only companies (think the likes of Tesla and BYD).

 

[Welfare Bum]

How do people feel about the Hyundai Veloster? Three doors is a strange layout and the only ones I've seen in person have been driven by wiggers but they seem fun.

I drove one for a little under 2 years. Before it even hit 90,000 miles, the computer seizured out and died and cost a fortune to fix. I currently drive a 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis. I have spent less money keeping that thing running than I have with the Veloster, despite it being over 30 years old and having driven it for 5 years because parts are everywhere and it's easy to fix yourself. It's much more comfortable and practical, too. The only issue I have with it is that it's harder on gas. But if you don't do a ton of driving to begin with, it doesn't matter.


(This isn't my actual car. It's just the closest I could find on google images.)

 

[God's drunkest driver]

I've been bit by parts breaking on 30-year-old Japanese cars and have no interest in doing so again.

Ah yes the false economy of newer cars. You'll find that things break on 10 year old cars, 5 year old cars, as well. If they aren't in warranty you will have to pay and go without the car either way. You are better off with a quality japanese car from 20-30 years ago than 10-15 year old korean crap. There is a reason that among the newest cars you see in junkyards are many korean or italian cars; they break more often and are worth so little that they're frequently mechanically totalled by a potential repair.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I've got an older Ford Escape that's about at 100K miles. Not exactly in a rush to replace it, but if the transmission gives out I'm done with it. Mainly between something like Civic or Corolla hatchback. Do wanna figure out their ground clearance though since I do sometimes drive up into the mountains on gravel/unpaved roads but not that often. I guess I'm mainly looking for something smaller than the Escape basically and hatchbacks fit the bill.

 

[polaris_VII]

My pussywagon. Well, this one isn't mine, but it's the same configuration. 2012 Beetle with the 2.5L.

 

[Stardust_Ziggy]

Does anyone know if these new tariffs are really going to raise car prices? I’m not trying to bring politics here, I’d just like a basic answer.

I’d like to buy a vehicle in the next year. I’m looking at crossovers, maybe a hatchback, and I’d like to keep it in the 25K to 30K range. But I think I’ve confused myself browsing online. My 3 main contenders so far:

-Mazda3 Hatchback (or a CX-30). They look great to me and seems like it’d be a fun ride. Gas mileage isn’t exactly spectacular, but it probably won’t be for any car unless I get a hybrid. Not sure of the reliability of Mazdas?


-Subaru Crosstrek. Speaks for itself really. And at least it has a unique look.
-Toyota Corolla Cross. Not bad, not great. Everything I’ve heard says it’s sluggish performance wise.

 

[Total Annihilation]

Does anyone know if these new tariffs are really going to raise car prices? I’m not trying to bring politics here, I’d just like a basic answer.

I’d like to buy a vehicle in the next year. I’m looking at crossovers, maybe a hatchback, and I’d like to keep it in the 25K to 30K range. But I think I’ve confused myself browsing online. My 3 main contenders so far:

-Mazda3 Hatchback (or a CX-30). They look great to me and seems like it’d be a fun ride. Gas mileage isn’t exactly spectacular, but it probably won’t be for any car unless I get a hybrid. Not sure of the reliability of Mazdas?
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-Subaru Crosstrek. Speaks for itself really. And at least it has a unique look.
-Toyota Corolla Cross. Not bad, not great. Everything I’ve heard says it’s sluggish performance wise.

I'll add a bump for the Crosstrek, quite a decent car (the only major downside for me was that I was unable to fit as I'm too damn tall). They also have this retarded giant touch screen for climate/radio controls; other than that, I'd say it's quite a decent car.

Outside of that, I'd put in a plus for the Nissan Frontier as well, given their truck is still a naturally aspirated V6, with no turbocharged bs, buddy of mine got one back in 2022 for around $33k (he got the 6ft bed version, which is longer than my bed in my 5.5ft F-150).

Prices for used Frontiers (via consumer reports):

 

[Alcoholism]

First 20 minutes of his most recent podcast is him bitching about Trump and talking about trans rights in the most hamfisted Biff lunkhead kinda way.


They identified the issue a good while back so I would assume it's resolved.

Every episode of the podcast now has a 15 minute detour into Farah whining about Musk in the most asinine way.

 

[Sho'nuff]

Does anyone know if these new tariffs are really going to raise car prices? I’m not trying to bring politics here, I’d just like a basic answer.

It depends a lot on the manufacturer and the vehicle. If a car is produced in Canada and competes with cars that are already cutting it on the cost, tariffs won't hit that vehicle very hard, but it may get rolled up the line into another trim/car/etc... Regardless of dumb ass niggers who parrot 10% tariff means 10% more cost, economics doesn't allow for such simplicity because we don't live in a vacuum. Even if we did live in a vacuum, and say car a is now 10% more expensive, that would mean competitors will beat them out and sell more, leading to left over dealer supply for car a, and you guessed it, price cuts to move the cars off of dealer bank rolls.

OT:
I have an FL5, and while it's a great, great car. I kind of find it too clinical and boring. I'm leaning on trading it for a Z or maybe waiting a bit and seeing how the new generation BRZ/86 and the Mr2. Also talk of the Honda-Nissan merger, I'd buy a 350z chassis with a k20 if they want to call that a Silvia.
This isn't to say I only like Japanese cars but there isn't much in the rest of the world that is attractive to me. I like the M2 and the M3 but they are too fancy with me. I like to drive my cars like they are stolen and the world doesn't make those cars except for Japan.
I've also heard Ford is struggling with the mustang, I'd take a dark horse on discount if I found one.
Perfect world, I want an Alpine a110 but thats never coming here.

I think the real issue is most modern cars are kind of boring, I owned a BRZ for 10 years and that was fun on the streets and track, but the FL5 is really only amusing on the street and fun on track. I worry anything else new would be the same way. I've heard the Z, being pinned on a 25 yearold chassis is a bit of a handful so I think it would be fun on the streets.

All that being said, I'm also financially risk averse, I bought the BRZ over the 86 because... well it looked better but also subaru hold superior resale over Toyota. I sold my BRZ for 5k less than I paid. My FL5 is still worth what I paid for it 2 years ago. The second I title the Z, it will be worth 10k less than I paid for it and if Nissan doesn't find a future... in the short term of 10 years the Z will be worthless and probably costly to maintain. I think a dark horse would be the better investment in that regard, but... Mustang? My mom drives a Mustang GT, do I really want one?

 

[anklyscr]

I think the real issue is most modern cars are kind of boring

Miata Is Always The Answer.

I just rag the shit out of mine and it’s always fun.

 

[Sho'nuff]

Miata Is Always The Answer.

I just rag the shit out of mine and it’s always fun.

I like Miatas, they are on my shortlist, especially if I just decide to downgrade into project car territory. I'd also likely just get a BRZ again at that point. Regardless of their truck engine I think they are a brilliant car to dick around in.

I'm curious to see what comes of the Toyota/Mazda team up, I hear both Miata/Gr86 and a Supra/Rx-?9? Car coming from it. I imagine more the later. But thats also comes with I-6 and/or rotary rumors which who knows what to believe anymore.

I wish Mazda would just put a 13b in the Miata and call it a day. It's more power and lighter than what they have in there now, that car would be a screaming piss rocket of fun.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

I wish Mazda would just put a 13b in the Miata and call it a day. It's more power and lighter than what they have in there now, that car would be a screaming piss rocket of fun.

A renesis might be a little bit lighter than the aluminum 4cyl they have in a ND2 Miata, that's not enough to make up for the drawbacks of having a renesis. It's the wrong direction imo, I would rather have a Miata coupe with more power than a rotary powered Miata because boxer 4s are stupid and the toyobaru needs to be replaced with something better.

I've been an RX7 fan for a long time and I'd rather Mazda give up on the rotary and make a car like the FD with a piston engine than another rotary disappointment like the RX8. The FD is more than the sum of its parts because it's pretty and everything works well together to make a great driving experience, not because it has a TT rotary. I've mentioned before that I wouldn't piston swap my RX7 but I've driven a swapped car and I get it. Mazda would have a terrible time making an FD successor that lives up. The FD was the lightest of the high end japanese sports cars of its era by far, a solid performer, and it was cheaper than the rest. How could they do that today? Take note of the prices in this old magazine article. The RX7 is the cheapest in the comparision and it adjusts to about $75k...

 

[The Silent Perjority]

Miata Is Always The Answer.

I just rag the shit out of mine and it’s always fun.

I've got a Homura coming in a couple of weeks, properly looking forward to it!
I also have a McLaren 750S so I reckon I'm going to have most fun driving options covered.

 

[Sho'nuff]

The FD was the lightest of the high end japanese sports cars

This is exactly why I think the Miata platform would be perfect for the Renesis, the miata Is probably lighter relative to the rx7 than the rx7 was lighter relative to the Supra/300zx/3000gt Granted I think they would develop it more. I think their biggest hurdle would be emission in the current year.
I would much prefer a semi-affordable Miata with a developed rotary, Bridgeport, forced oil, 2stroke like oil kit (i forget the name of the secondary oil cylinder injector mod). It could put down 250hp... still just moving the Renesis over to the miata as is would be perfect fun to me.
If they are developing a halo car, that could be an inline 6 with Toyota. I agree that in today's age, it would be more appropriate.
Unless Mazda said fuck it and... 20B.

I'll be honest, I think the big part of the Mazda alure is the rotary. So if they did something silly like a 20b or another twin charged 13b if they could get 400hp out of it... I mean that would be a more appropriate halo car for them. Even if it were 10-15k more than it probably should, just the rotary alone would bring sales. I don't think they'd have issues selling it out. Especially with their current day quality.

 

[Banana Hammock]

I used to think they looked kinda gay, but now I'm wondering if I should get a cybertruck.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Why'd anyone actually assume Tesla cars are superior to other cars made by car companies of hundreds of years? Surely anyone with an interest in cars wouldn't go buy the newest from a new company. Usually they jerk off about Ford or VW

 

[God's drunkest driver]

This is exactly why I think the Miata platform would be perfect for the Renesis, the miata Is probably lighter relative to the rx7 than the rx7 was lighter relative to the Supra/300zx/3000gt Granted I think they would develop it more. I think their biggest hurdle would be emission in the current year.
I would much prefer a semi-affordable Miata with a developed rotary, Bridgeport, forced oil, 2stroke like oil kit (i forget the name of the secondary oil cylinder injector mod). It could put down 250hp... still just moving the Renesis over to the miata as is would be perfect fun to me.
If they are developing a halo car, that could be an inline 6 with Toyota. I agree that in today's age, it would be more appropriate.
Unless Mazda said fuck it and... 20B.

I'll be honest, I think the big part of the Mazda alure is the rotary. So if they did something silly like a 20b or another twin charged 13b if they could get 400hp out of it... I mean that would be a more appropriate halo car for them. Even if it were 10-15k more than it probably should, just the rotary alone would bring sales. I don't think they'd have issues selling it out. Especially with their current day quality.

IMO rotary just isn't suitable for a cheaper car, too high maintenance, too thirsty. Normal people won't regularly check their oil, rev it out to keep the carbon deposits down and the apex seals free, refrain from starting the car up to move it then immediately shutting it off again. Yes, emissions are the biggest hurdle, they'd have to saddle it with crap and spend on R&D to meet modern standards, it would probably make it more expensive than a comparable piston engine.
Mazda tried and failed at least 3 times to make the wankel rotary a "normal" car engine and i think part of what made the last generation of RX7 memorable was that they quit the BS and made the best sports car they could instead of kneecapping it for practicality, economy and sensibility. Then they did the opposite with the RX8 and though it was a sales success in comparison and a lot cheaper, and nobody cares about them now because they tried to do too much well and wound up being poor at all of it.

As for the twin turbos, wouldn't be necessary with today's technology. You can have all of the low end you want out of today's turbo 4s, that would probably work for the rotaries too, even though they need a bigger turbo to make the same power.

I used to think they looked kinda gay, but now I'm wondering if I should get a cybertruck.

Psyop'd.