Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

ToEnsureVerification said:
Again, he can go to the other thread and say "Eurocucks, Euroniggers, Eurofags" all he wants and I'm fine with that. But shitting up threads and not being informative is nigger behavior.
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No, because the faggots in that thread will go complaining to @Useful_Mistake about "breaking containment" and then he'll get thread-banned.
 
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SBG said:
So I don't buy any argument implying that the US is reluctant to go further on sanctions on Russian energy because it's trying to avoid disrupting European life
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I could well be wrong but I’ve heard that the main source of revenue for Russia currently is oil export, not gas.
India and China buys the oil. The US *could* do something to disrupt that trade but it chooses not to, on the basis that it’s a large enough amount to spike oil prices if it was stopped, and Trump don’t like high gas prices and muh Bidenflation.

Let’s face it, shitholes like trannynistra, Belarus and Hungary probably aren’t in a position to be paying billions of hard €s to Russia, regardless if that’s who’s keeping their lights on.



Personally I value Ghostse’s contributions and choose to ignore his performative euro-seething and turbo-Trump-fagging. If you look past that he adds a pragmatic view, and there’s no point in being an echo chamber. Then again, I can see how Ukrainian kiwis might not want to put up with the trolling.
 
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Oh so we gave Ukraine 3,000,000 155mm artillery shells to Europe's 1 million. Plus we gave them another 1 million 105mm shells and 400,000 152mm shells
3,000 Stingers
10,000 Javelins
5,000 Humvees
1,000 MRAPs
400 Strykers
900 M113s
400 M1117s

And on and on and on


Nothing to see here, just the US far outstripping Europe in provision of literally everything to Ukraine

I don't disparage what Europe gave Ukraine, it gave Ukraine what it had, but spoiled children throwing tantrums about well awkshoolly Europe gave Ukraine moar blah blah blah is some straight bullshit
 
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Nadiya's reported liberation means the UAF has reached the Zherebets River.
Ghostse said:
been reduced to making the T-80 and T-62 their main tanks
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T-72zisters...
 
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Oxyjen said:
If you look past that he adds a pragmatic view, and there’s no point in being an echo chamber. Then again, I can see how Ukrainian kiwis might not want to put up with the trolling.
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He's not making "this place less of an echo chamber". It goes like this.

>Trump or the Administration does something that obviously hurts Ukraine or European ally relations
>5 Kiwis comment "wow that's retarded, wtf is this dude thinking?"
>Ghostse takes time to reply to the five Kiwis, calling them idiots with TDS because they metaphorically "don't trust the plan"
>Even admits he doesn't see the angle in which Trump is supposed to be helping Ukraine.
>Repeats Russian propaganda and then starts talking about the GWOT.
>Insults allies of Ukraine. "Eurocucks, Euroniggers, etc..."

What the fuck is his "fresh perspective" supposed to bring? Considering this is the Pro-Ukraine thread
draggs said:
I don't disparage what Europe gave Ukraine, it gave Ukraine what it had, but spoiled children throwing tantrums about well awkshoolly Europe gave Ukraine moar blah blah blah is some straight bullshit
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Yes people get angry when a historical linchpin in an alliance doesn't follow up properly on it's security guarantees (Budapest Memorandum) and threatens allies (like Denmark) and then is expects everyone to say "thank you" for it. And also expects after all that to be a unilateral negotiator.

And saying "Euros get what they fucking deserve" for their incompetence in not building their MIC helps absolutely nobody. Not even the US. Europe now looking to buy weapons, but not American, is not a fucking win for the US.
 
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Apparently the only mod working here is opernly pro-Russian Useful_Mistake, who is perfectly happy to watch the MAGAniggers shit up the pro-reality thread. Of course, MAGAniggers are vatniggers themselves, so they don't care whether there's a thread for people to talk about the Ukraine War from an evidence-based perspective. They are allergic to reading the truth and would rather cover everything in garbage than suffer to see it, even though the entire rest of this sub-forum is already an echo-chamber for them to vent their delusions.

Oxyjen said:
he adds a pragmatic view, and there’s no point in being an echo chamber
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There's nothing pragmatic about what he says, he is intentionally derailing discussion with lies and bullshit because it sets his ass on fire to see people say true things about his beloved Trump. All the facts are against him though, so he floods the thread with the same dumbshit "europe bad" talking points dozens of times, over and over, without ever adding something to them, and they were simplistic garbage the first time he posted them. His gaggle of fellow lying retards seal-clap and help him try derail discussion because they have the same mental illness.
He isn't "trolling", he has having a pants shitting meltdown every day in here, week after week. None of these people have any capacity for humor or banter. They have conclusively proven that by now. They're tedious imbeciles.

The first part of the video shows the road to Kursk, followed by operations near the Sudzha border checkpoint, and only then the return to their own territory. The vehicle withstands hits from enemy FPV drones and successfully returns to its base, losing one wheel along the way. All the fighters complete their mission and return without injuries.
It’s worth noting separately that the events in the video take place on March 13, at a time when the majority of the Ukrainian Defense Forces grouping had already withdrawn from the Kursk region, while the Russians were shouting to the whole world about the complete encirclement of Ukrainian forces.
The "FIREPOWER" fire support group is at work.
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Ukrainian assault troops from the KORD special police rifle regiment use TM-62 twin mines to blow up a multi-story building occupied by Russian infantry in Toretsk, Donetsk Oblast, and successfully return to their position.

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Ukrainian vehicle entangled in Russian anti-vehicle wire "Putanka".
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Russians intercepting Ukrainian drones over Toretsk with simple means.

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Russian soldier poses for the drone.

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A mysterious smoking Russian goes to a graveyard to die.

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A Russian drone deploys smoke?

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Video from the Geran-2 camera during the attack on Ukrainian train.

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Millionaire's Dinner. A chained and guilty Russian soldier from the 810th Marine Brigade was brought some gruel by his comrade.

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Dead zigger storage and flight to Tuva.
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Aftermath of the attack on Mulino Training Center near Nizhny Novgorod.


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ToEnsureVerification said:
The Perun Sunday vid is delayed, but Animarchy History made quite a nice vid, doing a recap of the war so far. (Has some NAFO smug moments, which I don't like, but on the facts, he explain things well)
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Animarchy is a Lolcow commie weaboo that flunked out of boot camp. All of this is well documented. This is what you consider a source?
 
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World in Scarlet said:
Apparently the only mod working here is opernly pro-Russian Useful_Mistake, who is perfectly happy to watch the MAGAniggers shit up the pro-reality thread. Of course, MAGAniggers are vatniggers themselves, so they don't care whether there's a thread for people to talk about the Ukraine War from an evidence-based perspective. They are allergic to reading the truth and would rather cover everything in garbage than suffer to see it, even though the entire rest of this sub-forum is already an echo-chamber for them to vent their delusions.
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I was shitting on vatniggers before you were out of diapers lol
ToEnsureVerification said:
Yes people get angry when a historical linchpin in an alliance doesn't follow up properly on it's security guarantees (Budapest Memorandum) and threatens allies (like Denmark) and then is expects everyone to say "thank you" for it. And also expects after all that to be a unilateral negotiator.
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Like most European countries not following up properly on their guarantees to spend 2% of GDP on defense for the last 30 years?

The United States considered Europe a linchpin of the alliance all through the Cold War because Europe didn't fucking freeload like it has since 1991

The Budapest Memorandum neither obligated the United States to go to war nor did it obligate the United States to send an endless stream of money and stuff to Ukraine. Didn't obligate Europe either. The UK signed that memorandum too. France signed a separate pledge. So hey where was Europe going to war and sending an endless stream of money and stuff to Ukraine after 2014? Huh. Guess the UK and France forgot to properly follow up on their security guarantees...

Like Zelensky and other Europeans babyraging about the United States? Zelensky saying if he doesn't get 60 billion every six months then the US will have to fight Russia direct one day. That's some protection racket kinda shit. One of the top members of the German foreign ministry said just a few days ago that Western civilization now only exists in Europe. That really makes me as an American want to be friendly towards the Continent

We're a unilateral negotiator here because congratulations, Europe played itself. Putin doesn't even view the Continent as worthy of acknowledgement. If Europe had taken care of its own business it would be right there beside the US because it would have something to back up its words that the US would be glad to have beside it, and that Russia couldn't ignore. Europe currently doesn't. Hope it does as soon as possible
 
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MIC Shill said:
"Um akshully, we broke it down in the Lazerpig thread"
That thread is populated almost exclusively by the mentally ill and mentally retarded.
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If I recall you left because you kept getting into retarded fights and couldn't go with the flow. None of this changes Animarchy's character as a unreliable source.
 
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Oxyjen said:
I could well be wrong but I’ve heard that the main source of revenue for Russia currently is oil export, not gas.
India and China buys the oil. The US *could* do something to disrupt that trade but it chooses not to, on the basis that it’s a large enough amount to spike oil prices if it was stopped, and Trump don’t like high gas prices and muh Bidenflation.
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Yeah, but the common reason I hear cited for why Europe wouldn't want more sanctions is it'd affect their natural gas imports (since you have those few countries like Slovakia and Hungary that care a great deal about it). It just always sounds retarded. They're the main countries that would seriously be affected by increased sanctions on gas and there's zero reason to care about their opinion on the matter given they're effectively aligned against US interests in the region (or what is popularly interpreted as US interests given the White House has its unique path it's taking these days).

Oil would be an even dumber thing to be worried about regarding sanctions given it's a an even more easily traded fungible commodity so it entering the market pretty much anywhere will end up lowering prices world wide to some degree. Making it a bigger hassle for Russia to sell oil would result in them having to go through more hurdles which would at least necessitate them earning less from it to make sure they move such a product. The US is also a major oil producer and I wouldn't be surprised if more pressure on Russia's oil would just help our oil industry given the costs of fracking. A barrel is selling for about $70 now and some states in the US it can cost $50-$60 a barrel just do drill via fracking. So a higher price point would help those red states' oil industries.
 
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World in Scarlet said:
Apparently the only mod working here is opernly pro-Russian Useful_Mistake, who is perfectly happy to watch the MAGAniggers shit up the pro-reality thread. Of course, MAGAniggers are vatniggers themselves, so they don't care whether there's a thread for people to talk about the Ukraine War from an evidence-based perspective. They are allergic to reading the truth and would rather cover everything in garbage than suffer to see it, even though the entire rest of this sub-forum is already an echo-chamber for them to vent their delusions.
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I mean, what would you have him do? Ban people who are pro-Trump? A decent number of the pro-Trump posters here have been consistently pro-Ukraine. I've said before that I don't mind dissention, and I stick by that. If someone wants to say they have no issue with some of Trump's actions, go right ahead.

I have a problem with the petty squabbling that this thread has devolved into; though in my eyes there's no good answer for cleaning it up. Most of it comes down to telling people to stop being so petty.
 
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BradeRunna said:
Europe wasn't involved in Iraq. At least 98% of it wasn't. The only two European countries that helped in Iraq were Poland and the UK. The rest of Europe said no and fuck off.
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I was rather more than that. Spain, Portugal, Czechia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Denmark, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, The Netherlands, Romania, and of course Bongistan, were all involved to a greater or lesser degree. A few non-european-but-probably-related countries were also involved, like Georgia. In fact, Georgia actually contributed troops to the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns, and then was hung out to dry by Obama when Russia invaded them, in an early example of America's sloppy position to Russian's revanchist ambitions.

Turkey also said hi, but they're not european, despite their beliefs to the contrary.
 
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Fatsuit Shinji said:
Lack of interest was the reason the U.S. wasn't a world power, not the lack of ability. Same England who had concluded in 1860 that Canada was a write off if the United States decided to take it. As there's wasn't any way England could get the necessary men and material over there in time. And without risking the inevitability of one or more of the continental powers taking a backshot at England while it is distracted.
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Im not going to go too much in to this because I don't want to get dinged for off topic sperging but the U.S wasn't a world power at the time (I never said they couldn't be) and Russia was far more concerned with military action from other Eruopean countries than it was from the non world power Americans. Also business dealings over Alaska is not the same as military action so why bring that up?
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While the United States certainly had the capability if U.S. Congress was willing to authorize and fund it.
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Yeah most countries had the capability to wage war overseas if it's government was willing to drop the money on it. After the Civil war the U.S had to cut the vast majority of it's 700 vessels because they couldn't afford it and it was understaffed. I don't quite see what you're arguing for? Are you trying to show the error of the ways of Tsarist Russia because they didn't take America in to account in a declaration aimed at European states and their allies? I see what you're saying but the then and now had the U.S barely being a thought in the Euro mind.
 
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