Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

So I got a nice check I didn't expect. I want a new Gucci ass gun to live next to my bed. I want quiet, small and it's gonna have a dbal and a light and a red dot so I can play with it under nods, also no buffer tubes allowed. I'm basically between 9mm and 300blk and I'm thinking an APC9 or a rattler. Opinions? Other options that meet my criteria?

Depends. How big is this check?

 

[Bummer]

Depends. How big is this check?

6k fully kitted. I was gonna get an iris and use my dbal so that's covered but I still gotta factor the can, optic, white light and any other accessories in so say 2.5 to 3k for the base gun.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

Honeybadger only has half a buffer tube and qualifies as gucci

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

6k fully kitted. I was gonna get an iris and use my dbal so that's covered but I still gotta factor the can, optic, white light and any other accessories in so say 2.5 to 3k for the base gun.

Akimbo a pair of these, faggot:




lol jk. I meant a pair of these:



ETA: I swear I'm not kidding btw:
PS90 x2: $3000
SBR stamps x2: $400
CMMG barrels and thread adapters x2: $740
Suppressor stamps: $400
=$4540

Which leaves you almost $1500 for cans.

Okay, I'll be honest, I don't know shit about suppressors, but get any shitass one that works for 556 and it should work perfect for 5.7.

Get to work fam.

ETAA: Just to add, if you wanna stargatemaxx and don't have any compunctions of giving britbongs money, add/take about $1000 of your budget for a couple of Ringsights.

 

[DocAwe]

Dude, $6k you can buy SO MANY keltecs...

 

[BikeLock]

Picking up some fresh batteries for my Vortex is kind of making me want a different optic for my VP9 already, and I haven't even shot it on the gun yet.

I mean 1632's aren't that expensive, but I've had the dot for about a year, so I didn't expect a dead battery, seeing as how I don't use it all that much.

The HK specific Holosun is calling me...

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

lol jk. I meant a pair of these

Would someone please post some pics of Pat playing with his PS90? Pat and his pieces aways provide a smile to my face

 

[Blasterisk]

why not 50 hi points?

• 9mm
• no buffer tube
• theres 50 of 'em

 

[Dean Pentel]

The same guys saying they can't use their sights in a defensive situation also never practice shooting from retention drills

The vast majority of people don't practice nearly enough. One doesn't need to make it their sole focus, but participation in a shooting match can help show one where they're really at. This is a major reason I like those so much, even when I get humbled by teenage girls.

When I try to move my dot up to match the 1/3rd picture I hit the limit of the holosun EPS carry... my irons aren't that tall I feel like something is wrong.

As I understand it, co-witness in pistol RDS is the same as in long gun RDS: the dot should be centered in the sight's glass and its relation to the sights is based upon the height of the mount. You shouldn't have to move the dot up or down using the adjustment to achieve this. Whose adapter plate are you using?

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

why not 50 hi points?

• 9mm
• no buffer tube
• theres 50 of 'em

Wearing a brace of fucking YC9s on a sash like you're a modern-day age of sail buccaneer is definitely a vibe I can get behind.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Dude, $6k you can buy SO MANY keltecs...

Or so many Turkish SPAS-12 clones.
They exist outside of Photoshop, bros.

https://www.shootingnewsweekly.com/shot-show/shot-show-2025-bronco-brings-back-the-spas-12-special-purpose-automatic-shotgun/

 

[Taser Confetti]

https://youtu.be/qFzoLi3LcTo?si

Yet another video of P320’s going off. Yet another wave of Sigger copes.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I've never shot one, unfortunately, but from what I understand it's fairly manageable. It's a big, heavy hunk of stainless steel weighing more than a revolver, it's semi-auto which soaks up some of the recoil, and it has an adjustable gas operating system, so you can tune the gas settings for the load you're firing. And personality, I've always found revolver grips, especially single action grips, to be LESS effective at managing heavy recoil.

you got to let your are act as a lever. takes all the shock right out of it. I can shoot my spicy .45 colt +P loads all day long like this.

that's a hog's leg grip. these are intended to allow the grip to slip with rotation in the hand on big revolvers, but also requires more effort on the part of the shooter at the wrist and knowledge to allow the revolver to rotate with the wrist upwards with the recoil from the shot rather than fight against it which is the typical instinct. combined with a heavy steel frame and barrel, and you can really tame recoil up into heavy .45 colt or .357 magnum it's okay, but any more than that and you will want a "thunderer" grip with a hump at the rear to control rotation. ultimately if you aren't a revolver shooter i would suggest avoiding them in anything but moderate loads in a heavy steel gun.

a target grip fills the palm and spreads the recoil into a larger area and absorbs recoil much better imho, but in heavy calibers like .44 magnum you will want a glove.

its proper name is the Plow-Handle grip, because its similar to plow handles circa 1850. Its a great combat grip fame. fast to re-cock and very intuitive. almost any single action with this grip will point very well in my experience.

I've abhorred the thunderer grip on larger calibers than .38. it does not help with recoil at all in my experience and since its designed for a double action revolver (colt 1877) it slows down re-cocking.

For the Magnum's most revolver smiths will recommend the Bisley grip or Elmer Kieth's No.5 variation there of. I have not tried one of these revolvers yet but since its a almost universal recommendation from the SME's (Taffin, Tyler, LineBaugh, Bowen, Kieth) there has to be something too it. It's also apparently better for accuracy. the overall shape was designed by Colt to achieve better results in the UK's huge international shooting matches in the late 19th century at the Bisley pistol and rifle range.

 

[Dean Pentel]

For the Magnum's most revolver smiths will recommend the Bisley grip or Elmer Kieth's No.5 variation there of.

I run a Ruger Vaquero in .44 magnum and it's got the hogleg type of grip on it. I wonder how much difference the Bisley type would make. I've seen that on a few .454 Casull models but no clue if it actually makes any difference.

It definitely requires a technique adjustment going from double action large frame revolvers to single action large frame revolvers. I'd like to get good with mine but I find it a lot less fun to fire because the grip seems to have so little room for one's hand given that the hammer needs its room to function.

I bet some men back in the day were incredibly deadly with these weapons, even given how slow they are to deploy compared to modern autos.

 

[The Dude]

Is the grip taller than it seems? That beavertail looks like it's riding so low I'd need to reach upwards with my finger to reach the trigger.


I agree, single action revolvers seem to have a smoother recoil compared to double action revolvers of the same caliber. The model I've fired the most does have a larger aftermarket grip though, which likely helps eating the recoil.

I've honestly never held a Wildey. They aren't exactly common pistols. But I believe Wildey Moore (the guy who designed it and thus who the pistol was named for) basically took the general shape of the 1911 grip and enlarged it accordingly. If and when I'm able to scrape together the $2750 to buy my own I'll be happy to answer any questions anyone has then.

@Romulus augustulus I've been shooting magnum handguns for over thirty years. I was shooting .357 Mag when I was 9, and regularly shot .44 Mag from the time I was 13 or so. That, and I'm also a big guy, so heavy recoil never really bothered me. Right now the only magnums I have are a Smith and Wesson Model 57 in .41 Rem Mag that was made in the late 60s, and an old Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Magnum that has seen better days, but it was my dad's and I can't part with it. My hope is to one day send the Blackhawk to Gary Reeder Custom Guns and have it completely rebuilt and customized into something that my dad would have been really proud to have owned, possibly in a different cartridge than .44 Mag like .454 Casull or .475 Linebaugh.

 

[sodomy lifestyle]

6k fully kitted. I was gonna get an iris and use my dbal so that's covered but I still gotta factor the can, optic, white light and any other accessories in so say 2.5 to 3k for the base gun.

How about a stock Ruger PC Carbine and 25k rounds of .9milli? You're still going to run out of ammo before this chonker fails.

 

[Alcoholism]

Agreed when it comes to social work. For the range, I have a Browning Citori O/U. It's pretty as can be, as well.

I would love to have one of those but need to justify it and develop a skeet hobby.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

I shot a .30 auto mag when I was hanging out with a gunsmith years ago. It was shit and jammed constantly, no more than 4 consecutive shots in 100 rounds. Everything was very visibly cast metal and rough, overall really lame. You know what they say about meeting your heroes....
That said, I shot a deagle and it was sick. Gun felt great and looked really good. Idk if it was cast or what but it least they weren't jewing you outta some extra sandpaper

 

[ifunny pride world wide]

I shot a .30 auto mag when I was hanging out with a gunsmith years ago. It was shit and jammed constantly, no more than 4 consecutive shots in 100 rounds. Everything was very visibly cast metal and rough, overall really lame. You know what they say about meeting your heroes....
That said, I shot a deagle and it was sick. Gun felt great and looked really good. Idk if it was cast or what but it least they weren't jewing you outta some extra sandpaper

IIRC Deagle frames are either high carbon steel or aluminum depending on the model / year

 

[The Dude]

I shot a .30 auto mag when I was hanging out with a gunsmith years ago. It was shit and jammed constantly, no more than 4 consecutive shots in 100 rounds. Everything was very visibly cast metal and rough, overall really lame. You know what they say about meeting your heroes....
That said, I shot a deagle and it was sick. Gun felt great and looked really good. Idk if it was cast or what but it least they weren't jewing you outta some extra sandpaper

There have been a few Auto Mags over the years. The originals that were available in .44 AMP had a few cast components, but looked very different from the later ones that really had no ties to the original ones. The one I have been waiting on for almost 4 years are based on the original pistols, but updated to use better, higher quality machined components instead of cast, and with many improvements to the design. The later Auto Mag pistols were available in a variety of calibers, like .30 Carbine, .45 WinMag, and a number of others, and would have a roman numeral after the "Auto Mag" based on the cartridge they were chambered for. So Auto Mag III, Auto Mag IV, etc. The original Auto Mags looked kind of like a Ruger Mk II on steroids, but had an external hammer. The later ones were slab sided and kinda looked like something out of Robocop.