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The thing I hate most about pro lifers is how little they give a shit about the child’s quality of life once it’s born. Grows up in a crack house? Who cares. Grows up starving because of poverty? Who gives a shit. Grows up being molested? Not our problem. As long as it wasn’t aborted, it’s all good. I’d rather be aborted and not exist than grow up in any of those scenarios.
This is a lacking argument.

Conservatives are more anti-drug than the pro-life (usually progressive) crowd. Children can break the cycle of poverty. The third scenario is an extreme. If you asked any pro-lifer (not moid) they’re obviously going to say these are all bad scenarios that can’t be reasonably predicted.

I just think about this topic often. It’s a popular line of reasoning line I always thought was unconvincing and a goalpost shift, though recently I think there‘s some truth esp in terms of forcing children to give birth. The whole “but what if the woman giving birth is poor” will never sit right with the broader societal implications.
 
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Children can break the cycle of poverty
Children who grow up in those scenarios are not likely to break any cycles. They’ve just been traumatized and handicapped for life and will likely end up like their parents. You can’t pull yourself out of hell when it’s all you’ve known. That type of childhood trauma runs deep. It literally changes the way people’s brains work. Having a healthy brain and a stable childhood is conducive to living a successful, stable life. It’s not impossible to come out of a rocky childhood unscathed, but it’s very hard.

Conservatives are more anti-drug than the pro-life (usually progressive) crowd
I really don’t care to turn this into a left vs right debate because those conversations usually derail the thread
but conservatives are notorious for showing little interest in supporting free or low cost contraceptive programs, they usually don’t like welfare programs, and encourage abstinence over contraceptives (usually unsuccessful in preventing pregnancies) resulting in young women having babies over abortions, because abortion care is usually limited or illegal in conservative areas. Just because they don’t like drugs doesn’t mean they promote an environment that is helpful for people to get out of these situations, especially when they limit options for contraceptives.
 
3 men who raped or filmed 14-year-old sentenced to probation

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Ok. The usual suspects. Nothing shocking here.

Let's see the boggart that decided on 1-15 years and probation/ suspended sentences for deportation.

JUDGE DOUGLAS HOGAN

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Yes. The pinnacle of civilization. The provider and protector. The Huwhite Mayun. Because releasing the rapists in africa so they can come back and do it again is better than a long prison sentence in gen pop as kiddie rapists.

I swear. 90% of the problems women face are shitskins and their fucking white male handlers.
 
Conservatives are more anti-drug than the pro-life (usually progressive) crowd. Children can break the cycle of poverty. The third scenario is an extreme. If you asked any pro-lifer (not moid) they’re obviously going to say these are all bad scenarios that can’t be reasonably predicted.

Children who grow up in those scenarios are not likely to break any cycles.

but conservatives are notorious for showing little interest in supporting free or low cost contraceptive programs, they usually don’t like welfare programs, and encourage abstinence over contraceptives (usually unsuccessful in preventing pregnancies) resulting in young women having babies over abortions, because abortion care is usually limited or illegal in conservative areas. Just because they don’t like drugs doesn’t mean they promote an environment that is helpful for people to get out of these situations, especially when they limit options for contraceptives.

The thing is, you can have all the moral sperging in the world about what SHOULD happen, but eventually you have to resign yourself to dealing with what DOES happen. Children can break the cycle of poverty? That SHOULD happen.... but it doesn't. I invite you to peruse the Sammy Bushart thread and tell me what hope any of those little kids have of growing up to graduate high school, let alone make enough money to lift themselves out of poverty at any point.

Same with the conservative idea that abstinence SHOULD work. It doesn't. Instead of resigning themselves to reading the statistics and adapting the strategy, the conservative moids will just smugly claim, well, they offered the solution, the bitch should have kept her legs closed! Problem solved! Not their fault that no-one takes their advice!

The question is not what is left or right or even what is moral or not, but what will work and be good for women. Abundant, free contraception and sex education, quick and easy access to emergency contraception and abortion, welfare for babies and kids, robust agency to track down fathers and make them pay child support, merciless sentences for rapists and molesters.
 
I hate how it seems common that when men hear that a woman has an unhealthy, estranged relationship with her father they automatically think it’s a “red flag” (like when it comes to dating and relationships) and she’s got daddy issues and probably BPD and you probably need to stay away from her cause she’s most likely “cRaZy!”.

Like why is the woman automatically put to blame in this? Most of those types of relationships are because of a shitty ass father, the parent themselves. The woman could have very likely been abused or neglected by him and suffered a lot of trauma as a result, but yet it’s her fault that her father treated her the way he did and so she doesn’t deserve a loving relationship because of it?? Yeesh, sounds like a big fucking load of victim blaming to me, but then again most men don’t have empathy nor the capacity to understand the complexities, nuances, or deeper aspects of something so.
Man is estranged from his mother, it's almost always because he doesn't like her.

Woman is estranged from her father, it's almost always because he never bothered to parent her.

One is a red flag to avoid the man, the other is...a red flag to avoid the man.

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Have pollen allergies or asthma? It's the males what did it:
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Known as botanical sexism, it's probably to blame for the modern increase in allergies.
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"The more female plants in a landscape, the less pollen there will be in the air"
 
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the bitch should have kept her legs closed! Problem solved! Not their fault that no-one takes their advice!
Oh god, I know this thread’s topic is about men, but when I read this part, my mother immediately came into mind as she has spouted that same sentiment before…

I think she’s a pro-lifer (a lot of pro-lifers do seem to be women). She thinks abortions are just mostly done by whores who won’t keep their legs closed and believes that they’re “killing babies” because they derive “joy” from it…
 
What women are concerned about when the idea of having a daughter gets brought up to them:
-What if they fail to protect her from harm,
-What if the system fails her if something does happen to her
-What if they repeat their parents' mistakes
-What if they shelter that daughters too much because they
don't want to see her hurt
-What if she feels miserable and frustrated when she eventually learns
how much shit women are expected to put up with just because they are women
-What if they fail to see that she's hurting deep inside?
What men are concerned about when the idea of having a daughters gets brought up to them:
What if she's a whore that does ghetto hoodrat twerk moves?? What if she fucks other men?? 🤪
Imagine being so cuckoldry-obsessed and porn sodomizing your brain beyond any repair that when the idea of having a female child gets brought up to you, your first response is to instantly sexualize that hypothetical daughter and think about her being promiscuous. The "Is having a daughter the ultimate cuckoldry" copypasta was supposed to be a shitpost, not an instruction manual.
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Late reply but these types of men's mindsets never fail to sicken me.

As if a woman is born a whore instead of becoming one due to their upbringing and environment (usually stems from poor parenting imo).

Every whore I have ever met has the most depressing childhood trauma and it directly correlates to them selling themselves and/or becoming drug addicts, but no it's actually her fault because her dad left!

Faggots...
 
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Pregnant woman catches her boyfriend at his "friends" house.

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What a horrific way to end a relationship, learning your boyfriend is a cheating GRIDS ridden faggot.

You think you hate them enough but you don't. I've began to really hate faggots and almost want TFD as much as TTD.

The way he calls his distressed gf "broo" makes me want to just slit his fucking throat. God. Hope she's ok and didn't catch anything from him.
also another L for Xbox cucks
 
Children who grow up in those scenarios are not likely to break any cycles. They’ve just been traumatized and handicapped for life and will likely end up like their parents. You can’t pull yourself out of hell when it’s all you’ve known. That type of childhood trauma runs deep. It literally changes the way people’s brains work. Having a healthy brain and a stable childhood is conducive to living a successful, stable life. It’s not impossible to come out of a rocky childhood unscathed, but it’s very hard.
Sorry you feel that way but it’s statistically untrue and blackpilled poison to deny that children are more likely to break the cycle of poverty. You are no longer talking about abortion when you start on that line of thought, because guess what? We have those children that went through all those things. They are now adults, particularly adult women. And it’s really fucking weird to start looking at their life and decide it’s not good enough. It’s an argument in favor of sex-selective abortion (femicide) because all those things impact women more. Part of the reason sex-selective abortion has happened to the extreme of changing worldwide population statistics is because those women would get less financial opportunities.

Yes, many things change the way peoples brains work, that doesn’t mean we have to start poisoning the water in poor areas because we can’t ensure the children will be given a perfect life.

The initial argument is poorly thought-out and just a recycled libfem gotcha picked up from other people online. That same argument goes viral every so often. It’s not actually convincing, it just makes people who already think that way feel good in the moment. There are full pages of thread derailment where people are all agreeing with each other. I don’t agree, that’s not further derailment, and it’s pretty fucking important to demonstrate why arguments need dissected so less people argue in favor of logic that ultimately benefits men.

edit: not a single coherent argument about how it’s not in line with sex-selective abortion that targets females. no substance. people become actual morons over abortion.
 
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So I've been watching this video of Julie Bindel interviewing Sall Grover (creator of the women-only app Giggle) and at some point Sall talks about how many moids tried to get on the app (timestamp 11:20). I would have guessed 100 a day at most but no. Thousands of moids tried to get on a niche app just because it was women-only. Fucking despicable.

Unfortunately Sall lost the lawsuit against the tranny.
 
Pregnant woman catches her boyfriend at his "friends" house.

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Three kids and this ginger fuck was going on the down low with a guy who looks like a cross between Shrek and Jeff Bezos. To answer the righteously angry woman: yes, he was enjoying that asshole.

Speaking of down low, this millionaire cRapper still lives with his parents in Vancouver, one of the most expensive cities to live in:

Maybe if he made better music he could actually own a home.
 
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Three children, and she’s pregnant again. This spindly, ginger faggot has reproduced four times, four times more than he had any right to.

Choose men very carefully and refuse to have children with them if you have even the faintest shadow of a doubt, because genes like this do not deserve to be propagated. Always ask yourself “would I be proud of my son, if he turned out just like him? Would I be happy for my daughter to marry someone just like him?” Because realistically, that’s what will happen if this man is their father. Inviting the wrong man into your life can cause multigenerational misery and people who manage to break free of they are the exception rather than the rule, unfortunately.
 
Three children, and she’s pregnant again. This spindly, ginger faggot has reproduced four times, four times more than he had any right to.

Choose men very carefully and refuse to have children with them if you have even the faintest shadow of a doubt, because genes like this do not deserve to be propagated. Always ask yourself “would I be proud of my son, if he turned out just like him? Would I be happy for my daughter to marry someone just like him?” Because realistically, that’s what will happen if this man is their father. Inviting the wrong man into your life can cause multigenerational misery and people who manage to break free of they are the exception rather than the rule, unfortunately.
I wonder if she had her routine STD tests yet as part of her prenatal care. I don't think there's any statistics on this but I bet a lot of women find out that their babydaddy has been buggering dirty buttholes on the side when those come back positive. The fact those are mandatory almost everywhere even if you are married gives you a good idea.
 
So this thread is featured https//kiwifarms.st/threads/kirtaner-aubrey-cottle.84714/ the guy has a dick pic in the OP. I am aware of my bias as a US American but fuuuuhck our custom of wholesale male circumcision is wonderful. It took me at least 3.5 seconds just figuring out what was going on there. Total foreskin death.
 
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