hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

but what if i have a personality like Null where women find it revolting but men love me?

Start a podcast.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Start a podcast.

If only men love you, maybe it's a sign to go prison gay or become a monk.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Has he ever actually stated what his profession is, or is content creation his whole bag?

Presumably his working poor gig days stretch from completing his Graduate Psych degree to finally securing his pre-COVID NYC dream job that was eventually ruined, the nature of the job remains unknown.

Still going through some old streams from the start of hoe_math's breakout.

This is from Nov 22, 2023 with someone called Michael Sartain (200k YT subs, ?Evolutionary Psych background, ?Psychologist/Life Coach/Marketing Bro)

In this clip, hoe_math expands on his employment background

- past sporadic employment with occasional desk jobs, writing, communications, journalism
- no formal art training, hadn't drawn pre-viral fame since HS

Sartain asks HM about his art background

- no formal Art background
- was good at drawing in HS, hasn't drawn since up to going viral
- did some hypergamy pencil scribbles in July '23 as a response vid on TikTok, instantly blew up, 3.8 views, still highest viewed Tok
- HM mentions he's only gone viral for 4 months in Nov'23, which places his breakout on TT around July '23
- talks about work history - mostly desk jobs (but not many), writing, communications, journalism
- apparently uses the tagline "Hope that helps" at the end of videos

In another stream (the Whatever Podcast, Oct 29th, 2023 near 2 hr mark), hoe_math talks about having driven for both Uber and Lyft, thousands upon thousands of rides.

In another 2023 stream, he mentioned that his 2019 COVID job in ?NYC died because it directly involved face-to-face contact with the public.

 

[Modern Audience]

I wish I could introduce you to some young couples I know IRL who really are attraced based on enjoying time together and each other as a person. It might not make much of a difference, you seem like a guy I used to know who didn't believe humans would stay together forever until he met "the one". Both of you seem to base it off first hand feelings and possibly the relationships of your parents.

I can't understand why a high value thinker with a decent steady job would not be attractive to a woman. Because he's not full chad? So many women love unconvetional looking men (see: tumblr), I'm confused by your assesment. Is it because chicks aren't deep or moral thinkers? I am amazed you can't find any women's discussions who talk deeply or philosophically, is it that women communicate a bit different than men or is it something else where they cannot mentally get on men's levels? I keep marking you autistic for seeming to have a shallow reference pool of IRL experiences and a black and white view of the subject.

I appreciate the sentiment, but alot of people don't live in areas or situations with intact social communities and unfortunately alot of chicks philosophy about men is that they're all violent criminals. To get a woman to like you, you must have enough wealth and attractiveness to push against whatever underlying dislike she has for men.

Nigga, Zesty Jesus is like one of the worst examples you could have picked from. The guy is a chronic gooner who retweets thirstposts of "buff" anime girls constantly. He does have a PhD on geophysics so he isn't a NEET or anything but the guy is mentally ill and a bachelor at 30

Oh no, he has a weird sexual complex. Just like literally every other man living in modern times. I don't know maybe you have a point. Perhaps the reason Zesty Jesus hasn't found a girl is that he hasn't met any girl that is 8 feet tall, jacked and has massive beachball tits.

Spoiler: Zesty's OC for anyone curious.

 

[PaperRoads]

Spoiler: Zesty's OC for anyone curious.

Buff Asuka?

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Buff Asuka?

Yeah, apparently she's like a fusion of Asuka, Baiken, and Demoman

 

[Two Hands]

Thought it was based off of Baiken, she fits the bill.

Perhaps the reason Zesty Jesus hasn't found a girl is that he hasn't met any girl that is 8 feet tall, jacked and has massive beachball tits.

>mfw there are no female super soldiers near me, the hoes took them from me

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

The concept of the "alpha widow", a woman who gets stuck on her highest setting, a longing that can never be fulfilled.

There is something similar going around in the female dating communities, this belief that men can't ever truly love a woman, they only care about your looks, and as soon as you start getting fine lines or wrinkles, he's already looking for a younger woman to bang.

This Nov 22nd, 2023 clip with Evo Psych bro Michael Sartain has hoe_math talking about the concept of "Women getting stuck on their highest setting" from social media/dating app attention and casual sex.

hoe_math talks about "Women getting stuck on their highest setting"

Both think social media has inflated the dating market
Michael Sartain - I personally know dozens of women that have fucked Drake
HM - Women are getting their reptile brains stretched out by social media attention, mid girls suddenly believe they are movie star pretty
Bfs and average guys IRL are ignored, just can't compete with infinite social media deluge

 

[Oliver Onions]

@Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown I appreciate you keeping me in the loop on figuring out what exactly the fuck this dude's profession may or may not have ever been.

To me he sounds like a Mundane Matt type who floats from job to job just to make ends meet but has no real end goal or drive to get there, which makes it all the more astonishing he'd position himself as someone equipped to educate young men on the art of seduction. I guess sometimes you learn as much from failing as you do from succeeding.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

To me he sounds like a Mundane Matt type who floats from job to job just to make ends meet but has no real end goal or drive to get there, which makes it all the more astonishing he'd position himself as someone equipped to educate young men on the art of seduction.

One of the apparent things that comes across from watching his early interviews from 18 months back right as he was breaking out is that he does suffer from some delusions of grandeur (there are also some screenshots in the OP suggesting he may have had manic episodes in his youth, both being traits of Bipolar Disorder. Also his constant fatigue/sadness/irritability).

Courtesy of @Inside your walls

The reason I took off so fast is because the way I speak proves itself. It can't be faked.

...I have shown my physique at my peak before

...which is what made all the difference for me. 5'11" + decent face (not a 10) does not = Chad, but add a 95th percentile musculature and you're in the top 5-10%

Nov 22nd, 2023 6m30s - Interview with Michael Sartain

"What is your overall message?"

HM

- There is a crisis with civilization
- He's coming at it through dating
- He has lots of personal experience with the subject
- Thinks academics like Macken Murphy sometimes misinterprets the scientific data

When asked shortly after going viral what his overall message/goal was, he didn't take a humble/tongue-in-cheek option like "I just want to get guys laid" or "I want others to learn from my mistakes".

No, he went with the blackpilled, Chicken Little main character syndrome answer "The world is about to end. And I'm going to be the one to save it."




"By getting guys' dicks wet"

All this coming from a 40 y/o underemployed Psych major whose biggest accomplishment in life is a three-figure body count.

 

[Oliver Onions]

No, he went with the blackpilled, Chicken Little main character syndrome answer "The world is about to end. And I'm going to be the one to save it."

Oh proper Carl Benjamin, 'saviour of the West', neat. I can see why this guy is fascinating to people.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

He's also collabing with some guy named Rich Cooper, who apparently got rich in the debt consolidation business in Canada and looks like Leaf brand Dan Bilzerian

But working with Fresh & Fit and Rich cooper? Brooo...

Rich cooper is kind of in a similar vine I only know about him from an old blackpill lolcow i used to watch, Richard cooper takes 2000/h an hour to give advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NkzTFsWWxo

@Inside your walls





Noticed earlier today that hoe_math wrote some poetic prose about his upcoming Rich Cooper guest spot, then deleted it later. Managed to grab a screenshot.

Rich, The Unplugged Alpha, is a men's coach, a business adept, and a model for a superlative tod-dog lifestyle. You can't say he's not a winner.

Rich will have questions for me, and I'll be curious about how he decided to become what he is, what it was like getting there, and how he he seems his experience as valuable for today's men.

I have endless insight on how things work. I hope to gain insight from rich on how to make things happen.

It seems hoe_math deleted the ballwashing post because he got some info wrong - that the stream was in fact live and that possibly the interview was happening today, April 1st, instead of tomorrow on the second.

I grabbed the OG screenshot on the morning of April 1st after it was deleted (I still had a browser window open from earlier). hoe_math also may have been confused with dates and timezones considering he has insomnia and stays up late into the night tweeting and is suspected to live in the PST zone.

Edit: Looks like the stream already happened and is up on YT

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

After seeing this I can say for certain he's just a faggot grifter. Those statements make it clear he's just a degenerate fuckboy that only cares about sleeping with as many women as possible.

His problem is he's aged out and with no actual career or wealth hes very unattractive to women. So he's jaded that he no longer be the fuckboy he used to enjoy being.

This is massive problem with millennials especially men . They think men age like wine or some shit . In reality you age like shit besides maybe 1 in a 100 cases you see on the TV. Many such cases where they wake up with not much to offer to women in their 40s and no shit women would choose someone younger with functional dick if they are fucking footing the bill.

angry he was never picked

He was but like every millennial they thought they could do better until they their hairline receded beyond the event horizon and dick doesn't work that good without some " help" .

And believe me when I say millennial women in their 20s were basing their value on ability to keep a man . If he didn't looked like some unwashed hobo that you would be embarrassed to be seen in public there would be at least one desperate enough woman to ask him out or attempt to date him.

I expect more and more millennial men to come out of the woodwork screeching at women to lower their standards acting histrionic and demanding daddy government to bail them out of years of terrible decisions after they got kicked off the cunt carousel.

Btw you need to add kicked off the cunt carousel in subtitle

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Did Rich Cooper partially phonebook hoe_math's given name in the intro of their stream today?

Apr 1st, 2025 1m55s

Pretty sure Rich Cooper partially phonebooks hoe_math as "Matt" ( he specifically says "Matt" instead of "hoe" or " math"). Unless hoe_math specifically chose it as a pseudonym

 

[Inside your walls]

Ladies and gentlemen, total retard war has broke on haggot_math's Twitter. Why is it, you ask? Because HM decided to kick the hornet's nest by pissing off half of his audience which are young men by saying anime is bad and comparing to pup play. It all started with him retweeting a video posted by Ian Miles Cheong featuring a man doing pup play and asking if somebody can explain to him what is this.

HM proceeded to respond with most lefty meme text response.



The whole tweet quoted

Yes, I can. THIS IS GONNA CLEAR A LOT UP. Go pee or get a glass of water first; you're gonna need a minute to process. Welcome back. Have you noticed yet how leftists gravitate to certain things? How, sort of the same way that conservatives go hunting and fishing and watch sports, leftoid goblin perverts like these cluster around things like anime, video games, sexual deviancy, and anthropomorphism? Well, conservatives do those things because that's what everyone else did. Daddy hunted. Grandpappy was Calvinist. But... no one has done any of this dog mask shit before. Now, if you ASK them, they might TELL you that they choose these things because they are "progressive." "We are creative souls expressing who we truly are!" or whatever. But if that was true, wouldn't they all have their own individualistic expressions of self? Why would "pup play" become popular with... what is it, like 10% of them now? A while ago, @MattWalshBlog stated (perhaps rhetorically rather than conversationally) that he felt that anime was satanic, though he could not explain why. I offered to explain why in exchange for exposure, which isn't coming (I guess), so I'll reveal the throughline now: Leftists actively hate their own free will. All of this weird shit they do? Those are attempts to rid themselves of responsibility. They don't want to be held accountable for anything. You know, like what we complain about in typical immature women. I'm a dog = I'm just a dumb animal, care for me! (this is why children's cartoons are always animals; animal nature = child nature = innocent = no free will) I'm actually a woman = I'm valuable because I exist, not because of what I DO! Games = I still have to play and learn! I'm not a grown-up yet! Communism = Guarantee me an income even if I do nothing! Even most homosexuality = I'm in the girl's role now! This happens TO me, not because I EARNED it, but because I'm HERE! What does this have to do with anime? Well, there's a reason I use cartoons in my videos. It's because they're simple. Like games. Like A-B-C, 1-2-3. Cartoons are a way of depicting ONLY the parts of something that you want people to look at. Look at these faces I drew (image). The male one is just 3 circles, 2 dots, and a wavy line. There's VERY little room for interpretation. He's puzzled. She's disappointed. All of the remaining complexity of humanity is stripped away. Drawing cartoons = "I did all the work of interpretation for you." That's why people come to me. I teach things quickly by showing you ONLY what you need to see. Cartoons, anime in particular, are similarly stripped down. And anime in particular acts as a gateway drug because it is so widely used as a style. You can jump from artist to artist without feeling like you've "changed channels," and there is infinite content, so you spiral downward into self-imposed infancy (which is Satanic). You start with Akira or Cowboy Bebop. You end up developing feelings for anime girls, who are easily idealized because they are only the bits of girls that you like, with none of that pesky human nature. You desire... simpler. Less human. Your chosen content gets more and more childish. Disney. My little pony. Whatever the internet has to offer (anything you can think of). You get sucked into the feeling of experiencing only the good parts of life and none of the downsides, and before long, it comes out in your politics. "I should be a baby! Feed me! Wah!" is all the left says anymore. And since we are long past the point where anyone who falls into this soul-blender can easily find others to support their delusions with a few clicks, we now have them acting it out in public, under the guise of "art" or "identity." Look at absolutely any weird thing the left does, and what you will find is: "I'm baby." "I deserve." No one wants to grow up. And you can't blame them; it doesn't pay anymore. Finally: If that wasn't enough for you for one day, go read about who "Aleister Crowley" was and what the "Aeon of Horus" was. Is.

He proceeded to double down on his take and also post this along with his tweet


What was the reaction to this tweet from his audience? Well...






He proceed to double down on his take and got ratio'd by somebody posting AI art of the
Founding Fathers writing the declaration of independence in front anime posters along
with other weebs continuing to clown on him





He proceeded to TRIPLE DOWN with his take and act like a complete passive aggressive
bitchboy towards somebody when they said they use these media as escapism



He also used this as an opportunity to shill his AI platform


But again weebs didn't not take this lightly and continued
to fume at him




TL;DR

 

[YautjaWeeb]

Pup play is surprisingly divisive.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

hoe_math addressed his hate for vidya and anime on his Rich Cooper interview yesterday

He feels that society is broken and needs fixing, but instead young men are pursuing unhelpful escapism and wasteful hedonism.

So Cooper asked him how he spent his productive free time now that he gave up his vidya with the OG Xbox and Halo 2 twenty years ago.

hoe_math's retort?

???"I used the time instead to learn how to sing in my car while delivering pizzas"???

Spoiler: Vidya/Anime hoe_math replacement details

Rich Cooper interview, Apr 1st, 2024 43m53s

Rich Cooper YT interview link

hm can't see the world fixing itself if it falls back on escapism, feeling good/hedonism
RC - Replacement hobbies?
hm - replacements IRL much more productive, just as fun
Replacements
- started learning guitar at 16, improved a lot with quitting vidya in early aughts (not in clip, but gave up vidya with OG Xbox/Halo 2)
- "I learned to sing in the car while delivering pizzas", now practices much more at home
- reads and studies a lot
- learned to read music
- uses spreadsheets to "figure things out"
- currently using spreadsheets of "all musical notes", analyzing frequencies and ratios between notes and perceived emotional reactions (heroism, sadness, royalty, etc)
- not in clip, but Cooper goes on to ask him if he was ever diagnosed on the spectrum
- hm "No", but doctors unsolicitedly ask him due to lack of eye contact, affect, mannerisms

 

[CoolFool]

I agree with HM that there are a lot of leftists that are lazy degens that do not want to do anything but take up resources. I also agree that there are many men who get suckered into anime and video games as escapism, and they end up wasting their lives with nothing to show for it except an autistic knowledge about their favorite anime girl. But it's still rich coming from him when he doesn't appear to do anything outside of complaining about women and making scribbles about them. How is that anymore enriching and valuable than losers obsessed with anime?

Wait, so this was his PEAK body? I thought that's what he looked like now, but this is what he looked like in the past. I wonder if he's fat now.

 

[YautjaWeeb]

hoe_math addressed his hate for vidya and anime on his Rich Cooper interview yesterday

He feels that society is broken and needs fixing, but instead young men are pursuing unhelpful escapism and wasteful hedonism.

So Cooper asked him how he spent his productive free time now that he gave up his vidya with the OG Xbox and Halo 2 twenty years ago.

hoe_math's retort?

???"I used the time instead to learn how to sing in my car while delivering pizzas"???

Jesus he is insane. Put musical notes, frequencies and intervals on a spreadsheet like he's about to make the big break through that the Greeks and Baroque period didn't or the centuries of scholars, artists and composers had missed thereafter. BECAUSE IT'S SPREADSHEET.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Wait, so this was his PEAK body? I thought that's what he looked like now, but this is what he looked like in the past. I wonder if he's fat now.

It's not clear to me what vintage this photo is. It was posted on X in Sept '24.

I suspect it's hoe_math earlier in his 30s (likely pre-COVID mental breakdown), but am mostly guessing. He still talks about being peak gym rat fitness around 24-25.

I thought I've heard him discuss this photo as being "fitter in my 30s than now", but still not 20s fit.

I found this X post from July 2024


He talks about his bench press PR here, being 5'11", achieving max muscled physique at 33, getting ruined by COVID lockdowns, being 190 lbs at ideal fitness, still being 80% of his peak fitness now

So perhaps the above photo is from roughly 7 years ago around age 33?

On the Rich Cooper April 1st interview yesterday

1) Current state of fitness: presently still lifting, still doing cardio, still eating right, no junkfood like in his youth, COVID was a speedbump

2) fattest ever - 5'11" 265 lbs 46 inch waist, fittest was 188 lbs, 34" pants
3) Apparently there’s old video of before/after of Tupac getting redpilled?