Assassin's Creed thread

[Fig Kommandant]

The modern day section literally doesn't need to exist anymore.

They fucked up the present day stuff by having Desmond as the most bland protag and trying to tie the entire saga into three games. They figured too late they could milk it by staying with Desmond too long.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

What about the templar one? Is rogue good on its own?

It's a glorified Black Flag DLC, like half the length and the story isn't as good. If you liked black flag it'll be fun, but don't expect a hidden gem.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

trying to tie the entire saga into three games.

Desmond's story was 5 games.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Excluding the optional regions, the last one is Hamtunscire. I'm looking at Steam specifically, on there, only 1.1% got to Shadows' epilogue, so that's bleak.

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5% ain't to hot either. (really good games tend to hover around 30%ish for the final chapter average tend to be around 10%)

 

[Fig Kommandant]

Desmond's story was 5 games.

Fair, but really Desmond's story was in a dozen cutscenes. But that's what I mean, they stuck with a bland main character for too long and waited until Rogue/Black Flag to explore other routes for the lore.

 

[Adam Basile Woodrow]

I'll look at the numbers again on April 15th, but I don't think anything major will change.

Spoiler: Xbox

[Q]

Spoiler: PS

[Q]

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Poor PS users. No other games to finish.

 

[moocow]

Not all men who play female characters are troons, but all troons play as female characters.
And this is from a person who tends to pick playing as a female character.

On the other hand there's a lot of homosexual men who pick playing as men for the eyecandy. So either way you're fucked and a faggot

The patrician's solution to this is to play as a Chad player character with a modded, pinup-quality tits-get-there-a-week-before-she-does companion who's so overpowered you can watch her fine ass do the heavy lifting for you as you subject her to lethal doses of male gaze, while daring the game's NPCs to even try to touch you.

 

[Cheesy Beavy]

I'm actually leaning towards unity for some reason

Unity is the best one. Best parkour (can be a bit finicky at times but it’s the most developed and flashy), best stealth/social stealth, and I don’t recall it having a bunch of the animus shit. The multiplayer was a lot of fun (if you have someone to actually play it with). I also think the black box missions were a good idea giving you several unique ways to kill your target. You also have a couple different ways to build your assassin (I always liked the gun build).

Story isn’t that great though. Very mid. But the parkour and social stealth make up for it. Also a lot of fun historical fights.

Black flag was pretty good. As well. The shanties and ship battles were top tier. Although all the shit you do outside of the animus is complete ass.

It was and is, unfortunately, still a broken fucking mess because Ubisoft shit it out too soon.

Last time I played it I don’t remember many bugs. Maybe a few focused around the parkour, but it was also a couple years ago and I have rose tinted glasses for that game. But you’re right that it’s exactly the direction they should have taken the series in. I don’t know why they continuously put in and take out social stealth. It shouldn’t have ever left. There’s nothing cooler than stabbing someone then literally vanishing into a crowd of 100 people.

What about the templar one? Is rogue good on its own?

That’s one of the few I haven’t played, but I’ve heard decent things about it. Basically just black flag but you’re a Templar from what I heard.

The modern day section literally doesn't need to exist anymore.

Any time I’m taken out of the animus in an AC game, I immediately think “what a drag, put me back in already”

 

[AnotherPleb]

The modern day section literally doesn't need to exist anymore.

How else would they be able to say that no matter what you're a black bitch?

 

[Tanner Glass]

They kept teasing that until they effectively killed him and all the animus abstergo nonsense should have ended there. After all that i feel they should have branched off into Desmond's adventures as an Assassin in the 'real' world and keep the other part of the series alt history. AC nowadays doesn't know what it wants to be because they they want to stick with a formula they clearly hate which is pseudo alt history but as told by Ubisoft so they're going to bend the rules of that a bit and claim something was "accurate" so they can justify pandering.

Desmond the Assassin (or Lucy) was almost certainly planned as a concept but probably proved to be too hard in execution, as in modern times he'd be going up against aware SWAT team members with vests/armor, full auto weapons, grenades, etc. There are a few small sections in various AC games where it's "sneak up on this lone Templar in this empty warehouse" but it would turn into an entirely different game (mainly Metal Gear Soild 2) once you account for the radios, closed circuit cameras, phones, and so on. It was probably way too ambitious for Ubi so they moved away from it and made AC4 a more filled out AC3 mechanically and just decided to never go back to it.

It was probably narratively confusing to have an expanded story in modern times without having historical events and people to lean on either. It would be weirdly jarring to have modern day famous people in the game - even CoD Black Ops feels weird to some people and never takes itself as serious as Assassin's Creed does.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Desmond the Assassin (or Lucy) was almost certainly planned as a concept but probably proved to be too hard in execution, as in modern times he'd be going up against aware SWAT team members with vests/armor, full auto weapons, grenades, etc.

Iirc, I remember reading about Ubisoft initially planning on Desmond gathering more and more skills from his ancestors throughout each game, then the series ending with Desmond being the focus in the modern day.

It would essentially be Watch_Dogs but with more parkour, but also without the thing people were interested in the series for in the first place (the historical aspect). I can understand why they dropped the idea.

Though looking back, the series definitively ending with Desmond fully becoming an assassin and saving the world would've been cool. The tiny taste of that we got in AC3 was completely on-rails and pretty shallow. A full game could've fleshed Desmond out so much more.

 

[BScCollateral]

Excluding the optional regions, the last one is Hamtunscire. I'm looking at Steam specifically, on there, only 1.1% got to Shadows' epilogue, so that's bleak.

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Apologies, but is that achievment from DLC? I think that might muddy the waters a bit, if it's not even available to someone who just has the vanilla game.

 

[Miller]

Phoneposting, but would you say there is any truth to this?
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>MightyQueef
Ignore whatever he says.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

>MightyQueef
Ignore whatever he says.

Ignore what anyone who gets regularly reposted by Alyssa Mercante says

 

[Michael Wade]

Iirc, I remember reading about Ubisoft initially planning on Desmond gathering more and more skills from his ancestors throughout each game, then the series ending with Desmond being the focus in the modern day.

It would essentially be Watch_Dogs but with more parkour, but also without the thing people were interested in the series for in the first place (the historical aspect). I can understand why they dropped the idea.

Though looking back, the series definitively ending with Desmond fully becoming an assassin and saving the world would've been cool. The tiny taste of that we got in AC3 was completely on-rails and pretty shallow. A full game could've fleshed Desmond out so much more.

Desmond the Assassin (or Lucy) was almost certainly planned as a concept but probably proved to be too hard in execution, as in modern times he'd be going up against aware SWAT team members with vests/armor, full auto weapons, grenades, etc. There are a few small sections in various AC games where it's "sneak up on this lone Templar in this empty warehouse" but it would turn into an entirely different game (mainly Metal Gear Soild 2) once you account for the radios, closed circuit cameras, phones, and so on. It was probably way too ambitious for Ubi so they moved away from it and made AC4 a more filled out AC3 mechanically and just decided to never go back to it.

It was probably narratively confusing to have an expanded story in modern times without having historical events and people to lean on either. It would be weirdly jarring to have modern day famous people in the game - even CoD Black Ops feels weird to some people and never takes itself as serious as Assassin's Creed does.

And hilariously enough they waited too long to actually do modern times in watch dogs legion. It's neat but of course the token assassin has to be black woman you can't change.

I will say it was actually cool for Aiden to have a side mission killing an abstergo employee for the assassins in 1

Instead of making watch dogs 2 a hipster mess, they should have played up the connection and made a fleshed out world with Aiden. Maybe give him some ex Assassin connections while emphasizing that the Internet age created more factions and forces to face then just the templars. It was the one thing in my mind that could have made the modern times interesting and payoff

 

[30+GameOvers]

Instead of making watch dogs 2 a hipster mess, they should have played up the connection and made a fleshed out world with Aiden. Maybe give him some ex Assassin connections while emphasizing that the Internet age created more factions and forces to face then just the templars. It was the one thing in my mind that could have made the modern times interesting and payoff

Ubisoft are kings of having great ideas, but squandering them:
Hobo Sam Fisher that blends in with his environment to avoid cops since he is a wanted man and cannot depend on his gadgets anymore? Nope, didn't prove popular enough with our focus group, let's cancel it, reboot it as a third person action game and then kill off the franchise.
An open world Rayman game that was partly finished about an alien invasion, right on time to make it a 7th gen bestseller? Nah, let's take those cute rabbits, turn them into proto-minions and then turn our platforming game into a minigame collection to jump onto the shovelware Wii market early! Rayman who? You know what, you can have him for this weird Mario X-Com thing you're making, give him a DLC or something. Hope the half-finished builds don't leak out someday complete with gamedev tools and editors, so that somebody more competent than us can finish that game someday!
Speaking of which, remember that Beyond Good and Evil game? Yeah, that was kind of nice. Let's make a sequel for it, I bet we can churn one out in a couple of years!
A cool historical assassin game that is a spiritual successor to Prince of Persia? Let's just fuck it into the ground by making a yearly sequel but lose the plot of what we actually want the narrative to be a few entries into the franchise. Who cares, people will just buy yearly reskins in a new setting and time period anyways! Let's poz it up while we're at it and insert as many niggers and women for those sweet DEI bucks! Hope this doesn't bankrupt our company and force us to sell out to Tencent!
What's that, we got this cool Rainbow Six game that has you potentially taking on American citizen patriots instead of more traditional terrorists, so we have players asking who the real good guys are? Nah, let's gut the whole think and make it more focus group friendly. Fuck it, how about we just make it a hero based online shooter instead? Tell you what, how about we throw in a retarded Marvel movie story in there while we're at it and aim for over 100 heroes to be in the game eventually, what could possibly go wrong?
You know what, scratch that, how about we make an alien invasion event for the that game while we're at it, like Call of Duty did at one point! Oh boy, players LOVED it, how about we make it a stand alone game? What's that, players hated it and it died within weeks? Welp, I guess we will have to continue shilling more battle passes and making more heroes for the main game instead!
The Crew? Yeah, everyone loves the concept of driving around the entirety of USA, let's just kill that game and make like two more sequels instead that only add like one or two extra vehicle classes each! Uh-oh, looks like that wasn't a very smart idea, now we're getting taken to court by some weird guy in Poland!

I could go on. I am eagerly awaiting some sort of "Downfall of Ubisoft" video essay to put in perspective just how many dumb decisions lead us down this path, the nigger samurai game is only the final nail in the coffin.

 

[The Last Stand]

What's that, we got this cool Rainbow Six game that has you potentially taking on American citizen patriots instead of more traditional terrorists, so we have players asking who the real good guys are? Nah, let's gut the whole think and make it more focus group friendly. Fuck it, how about we just make it a hero based online shooter instead?

Was that Rainbow Six: Patriots? Given how anti-American many gaming companies are, that sounds like a cool idea.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Was that Rainbow Six: Patriots? Given how anti-American many gaming companies are, that sounds like a cool idea.

It was, then the game was scrapped and it's multiplayer mode turned into Siege(which itself has some controversy as the finished product was nothing like the previews, just like with Watch Dogs).

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Though looking back, the series definitively ending with Desmond fully becoming an assassin and saving the world would've been cool. The tiny taste of that we got in AC3 was completely on-rails and pretty shallow. A full game could've fleshed Desmond out so much more.

the part where somehow every security guard has a baton instead of a gun was funny, as Unity and the Victorian era one proved, they can't really figure out the guns, best case is like in AC4 where you ambush and somehow the enemies miss you at point blank range and sometimes you use a human shield.

like in AC3 when you get the gun from clay you can kill everyone in your path without consequence. Unless the modern ac takes place in the uk or china you're sort of fucked.