US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

MAGA patriots are now unironically promoting leftist anti-consumerist/anti-technological values and the return to an unironical agrarian society. Very American indeed.

What a ride.

I didn't say anything in this that's anti-technology you retard. There are plenty of people who invest in work computers (including Mac), that they keep for years until it needs to be upgraded or replaced. If they need to do this more frequently, presumably their industry allows them to do so either by their company investing in the upgrade or their own success allowing them to upgrade frequently if needed (though this often isn't needed).

Plenty of people who buy a gaming console and an occasional game here and there as their budget allows without feeling the need to buy everything day one with no selection criteria.

Plenty of people who buy expensive shoes or nice quality clothes they use until they wear out and need to be replaced.

Plenty of people who buy model kits and put them together as a hobby without the need to buy every single shitty ugly ass funko pop plastic trash that comes out.

If people simply cannot handle not being able to buy EVERYTHING for pennies or disposable trash shoes/plastic crap/tissue paper quality clothing even if it means their fellow citizens are cucked out of a job, their country's economy is sacrificed at the alter of consumerism, and soulless chinks get more and more economic power then yes I have a fucking problem with that.

If they're not able to handle going without their baby toys and nigger bling even for a little while during these course corrections they should probably fucking kill themselves because they are worthless leeches concerned with nothing but their own dopamine rushes (see: Kevin Gibes and his shrine to plastic depression bought with gibs).

That is not anti-technology, and as for anti-consumer, I don't think consumers lives are enriched by shit not built to standard, full of lead, heavy metals, pesticides, and built by overseas slaves. Building those things in the US would be better for the workers and the consumers because it would help them make sure they're getting what they actually paid for instead of something that will poison them, break, or burn their house down.

I can't even tell what you're even arguing here. That wanting American industry to boom is... anti-MAGA?
That wanting to guzzle chink pesticide laden cum is patriotic? That wanting technology and medicine to be focused in the US instead of within the grip and control of our rivals is bad somehow? Baffling.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

A good point about fucking Chyna to death:
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And Ric Grenell telling Trump just squash the french faggot's posturing:

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fuck, amazon will now have to find American sellers and...American producers.

THE HOOOORRRRORRR

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Whether it will pay of in the end is anyone's guess. Either protectionism is reduced and we all grow wealthier or we suffer another recession.

"Another?" We've been in a recession since 2020. All that recent growth was driven by tech companies working on AI.

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I know 80% of the people itt are too poor and/or retarded to care, but this is not winning and it never will be.

Older Kiwis: noooooo the NASDAQ is down nearly 20%!!!
Younger Kiwis: The heck's a Naz Dack? I just want to be able to afford a house.

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

If people simply cannot handle not being able to buy EVERYTHING for pennies or disposable trash shoes/plastic crap/tissue paper quality clothing even if it means their fellow citizens are cucked out of a job, their country's economy is sacrificed at the alter of consumerism, and soulless chinks get more and more economic power then yes I have a fucking problem with that.

The issue many people have is this. The tariffs are a tangible thing that hurts us now. There is no guarantee that the tariffs will pay off. You act like it's picking between short term expense for long term prosperity. when it's more like taking a guaranteed loss now (at a time when people have less to lose) for the chance that there will be tons of jobs in the future.

 

[Thirsty Kitty]

wiau

 

[qoop]

Wonder what policies Trump will consult Laura Loomer on today

Hopefully more. She’s the one of the only conservative influencers to actually talk shit about hacks like Pam Bondi.

 

[Thirsty Kitty]

fuck, amazon will now have to find American sellers and...American producers.

THE HOOOORRRRORRR

have you considered that maybe being a manufacturing prole country is retarded and there's a reason why we've spent centuries trying to move away from that

 

[mandatorylurk]

I am begging all the liberal asslickers who are either clocking in or trying to get screengrabs to get reddit karma, please make better posts than "heh, friendo, guess this political thing Blumpf is doing is a heckin' hypocritical thing now because of something years ago, huh? *Jon Stewart shrug and wide eyes* *smug look away from the monitor as you hit the reply button*" Begging. Try being a whole new type of faggot.

 

[Orange_Juiche]

A basic bitch formula is all you need.

It’s still really damned odd to use a basic bitch formula for *trade imbalances* and calling it a reciprocal tariff formula.

Everyone expected Trump to come down hard on tariffs but this goes so far beyond that. It’s more akin to some mafioso wink-nudge threat “we all love our kids, don’t we? Would be a real shame for one of them to fall off a balcony, my dear old mother would be beside herself with grief.” Some of these countries would descend into outright revolution if the rates on Trump’s chart actually took effect.

Honestly pretty based strategy if it works. International trade is currently gamed out to be obtuse as hell to avoid effective reactions from Respectable Politicians - look at China’s bullshit over the last 24 hours “boo hoo hoo we only have 400B of exports to the US” because they route a ton of shit through other countries. Strategies to box out Respectable Politicians apparently fall apart in the face of the Chaos Candidate.

 

[The Bird]

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wiau

Thank God I keep all of my assets in corn

 

[LaxerBRO]

have you considered that maybe being a manufacturing prole country is retarded and there's a reason why we've spent centuries trying to move away from that

The goal is to manufacturer higher end items while leaving the Temu / Dollar store crap to the other nations.

One way is to have the items your nation produces be more competitive in the target nation by removing barriers.

Yes, manufacturing shitty fast fashion dresses isn't what I want for a nation but I don't what this nation to be filled with an upper "class" of designers, mid-level managers, engineers, etc. while the rest of us work at the Amazon warehouse.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Trump shitposting about killing terrorists:
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Wtf was the last administration doing that these dudes felt confident enough to stand outside together like it's a fucking company picnic?

 

[Buttigieg2020]

It’s more akin to some mafioso wink-nudge threat “we all love our kids, don’t we? Would be a real shame for one of them to fall off a balcony, my dear old mother would be beside herself with grief.”

Of course it’s a threat. How anyone is surprised by this is beyond me, especially after his first term.

Trump loves brinkmanship tactics.

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

have you considered that maybe being a manufacturing prole country is retarded and there's a reason why we've spent centuries trying to move away from that

Even China is diversifying away from manufacturing cheap shitty low margin goods

 

[Meat Target]

Also these people you hate

You presume to know which people I hate? I regret to inform you that your psychic powers are lacking.

All Trump has done is

Purge them and their ideological commissars from their sinecures in government, business, and academia, and choke off taxpayer funding to their moronic pet projects.

Trump, Musk, and Thiel have never declared me an enemy of the state for criticizing them, or demanded loyalty from me while appealing to Bush-era cuckoldry.

"But, but they might-"

Save it. You can't scare me with anything Trump might hypothetically do (which is usually a product of your imagination). Biden and his toadies already did it to me.

 

[The Ugly One]

My local construction company should be allowed to use slave labor from Guatemala so my siding is cheap, and Chinese scammers should be able to file fraudulent trademark claims so that I can get imitation goods for cheap. That's just free-market capitalism, buddy, and if you don't like it, well, just look at the STOCK MARKET, don't you like the STOCK MARKET bro? Look how many people profit off slavery and fraud. That means it's a GOOD THING.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

It's easier than providing a reference in APA 7th and most Farmers are should be capable of downloading a PDF. Here it is, you lazy retard.

The Article was bad

On the one hand, U.S. import tariffs may protect some U.S.-based manufacturers
from import competition in the domestic market, allowing them to gain market share at
the expense of foreign competitors. On the other hand, U.S. tariffs have also been imposed
on intermediate inputs, and the associated increase in costs may hurt U.S. manufacturers’
competitiveness in producing for both the export and domestic markets.

So they might work, they might not.

Well an analysis from 2023 said, they did work.

• Annual U.S. imports of steel decreased by 17.2 percent between 2017 (the year before the
  tariffs’ implementation) and 2021.
• Annual domestic production of steel fluctuated throughout the period, remaining about 5
  percent higher in 2021 than in 2017.
• Although domestic steel capacity utilization was growing before the tariffs, it increased more
  rapidly beginning in 2018, reaching a 14-year high in 2021.
• Investment announcements from a variety of producers since the imposition of the tariffs
  indicate that production and capacity will likely continue to increase in the coming years.

• The total volume of annual U.S. imports of aluminum decreased by 19.0 percent between 2017
  and 2021. Unwrought aluminum imports decreased by 25.2 percent; wrought imports
  decreased by 4.8 percent.
• U.S. aluminum production has fluctuated throughout the period but increased overall, with the
  largest increase (22.5 percent) occurring in the primary segment, followed by 15.4 percent in
  the wrought segment and 11.5 percent in the secondary segment.
• Primary aluminum smelter capacity utilization increased by more than 20 percentage points
  between 2017 and 2019. Although it has fallen somewhat since then, it was still about 15
  percentage points higher in 2021 than pre-tariff levels.
• Similar to steel, investment announcements from producers in all three aluminum segments
  since the imposition of the tariffs indicate that production and capacity utilization will likely
  continue to increase in the coming years.

pg. 79 & 80

That was during the worst of Covid. Imagine what our economy would look like with no Biden and no Covid and no BLM.

 

[Thirsty Kitty]

Suck a fucking dick you faggot.

you are a retard gorilla nigger

 

[The best and greatest]

have you considered that maybe being a manufacturing prole country is retarded and there's a reason why we've spent centuries trying to move away from that

Have you considered the possibility of people producing for themselves and their community rather than concentrating the levers of economic power in the hands of a small group of elites?

Do you think the fish in my aquarium even recognize they're stuck in a box?

 

[Beep from Kenshi]

They're fleeing (to Canada)

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The great academic flush can't come soon enough. Hopefully by 2026 I can take an exam without having my nostrils violated by curry BO.