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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump literally held one out on stage for all to see
No, read what he's asking again. Trump's chart showed the rate other countries would be tariffed, based on a different measure of a calculation based on imports from that country. He wants to know the actual tariff rates for other countries on US goods, which was not the basis for Trump's tariffs. It's not that easy to just make a chart either because certain goods can be tariffed at different rates.
I copied it from patriots.win the only uncucked news source. I ain't fact checking shit. It does seem mostly correct but a little behind Vietnam already dropped their tariffs to zero for example.
Lol, ok dog fren, at least link where you got it from. Good doggy.
 
This may be a long shot but does anyone have a list of what other countries were charging the US in tarriffs? Google literally will not tell me.


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No, read what he's asking again. Trump's chart showed the rate other countries would be tariffed, based on a different measure of a calculation based on imports from that country. He wants to know the actual tariff rates for other countries on US goods, which was not the basis for Trump's tariffs. It's not that easy to just make a chart either because certain goods can be tariffed at different rates.

Lol, ok dog fren, at least link where you got it from. Good doggy.
Other countries are so tiny and pathetic that to have a monetarily equivalent tariff to even 10% on our end they would have to have a 200% tariff or higher.
 
Since Trump, the Democrats have become:

-pro endless wars
-pro big pharma
-anti working class
-pro transfer of wealth (covid proved that)
-openly and shamelessly antisemitic, slurs and all
-anti electric vehicles

I'm just waiting for the Democrats to start saying "the poor bankers/rich people!" in response to this. lol.
You forgot to mention the sudden widespread acceptance, even trust in, the intelligence community and domestic surveillance.
I only bring that up because it was that particular flip-flop in response to Trump that permanently soured me on the party
 
I consider myself a devoted patriot for many reasons and in that regard every single American service member death, in theater or otherwise keeps me up at night
I remember my uncle talking about people melted onto metal. My second cousin still can't sleep a full night after 30 years, for reasons he won't tell anyone. It really is a horrible sad thing.
 
You forgot to mention the sudden widespread acceptance, even trust in, the intelligence community and domestic surveillance.
I only bring that up because it was that particular flip-flop in response to Trump that permanently soured me on the party
Do not forget:
Tariffs are now super bad.
Deportations are now super bad.
Cutting government waste is now super bad.

All of this was fine under Obama.
 
It's very odd to see staunchly anti-capitalist/corporation leftists suddenly get so worried about multi-billion dollar companies losing money.

It's almost as if they have zero independently formed ideals and just want to dunk on Bad Orange Man no matter what he does because the internet told them that's what they are supposed to do.
 
It's very odd to see staunchly anti-capitalist/corporation leftists suddenly get so worried about multi-billion dollar companies losing money.

It's almost as if they have zero interdependently formed ideals and just want to dunk on Bad Orange Man no matter what he does because the internet told them that's what they are supposed to do.
Check out r/news or r/politics every single Communist who claims to hate capitalism is sobbing hysterically over le heckin corpos losing money.
 
We HAVE to stop fighting wars against people with nothing to lose
The problem is that we fight our wars in 'humane' fashion. Nothing short of genocide will defeat these people. If you aren't prepared to go that route then your war will ultimately be fruitless and so you might as well not bother.

Americans Spaniards and Russians defeated their colonized peoples for a reason, and it wasn't because they played fair or humanely. Its because they afforded their enemies all the rights of demons and smote them man woman and child with extreme prejudice whenever the occasion so called for. The American first peoples never recovered and never will

It is our ethics and our need to envision ourselves as 'civilized' that make total and complete victory over other groups of people impossible. But technologically speaking? There's nothing stopping America from firebombing Yemen city-by-city village-by-village or from poisoning their food and water supplies to make the land itself wholely inhospitable. There is nothing material stopping America from doing unto Yemen as Temujin did unto Khorasan or Rome unto Carthage; from Massacring whole population groups and taking the surviving women and children as slaves, or diluting their demographic makeup with imported people who hate them and will in turn do the butchery for us. We CAN defeat them, the only question is how much of our own civility and humanity are we willing to give up to make it happen.
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Personally I'd rather not and just start shipping shit through the arctic circle instead.
 
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You forgot to mention the sudden widespread acceptance, even trust in, the intelligence community and domestic surveillance.
I only bring that up because it was that particular flip-flop in response to Trump that permanently soured me on the party

That flip-flop happened the second Barack Obama became POTUS, and when he renewed and added more stuff to The Patriot Act instead of getting rid of it like he had promised several times in 2007-2008.

Every day during the Bush Administration, I kept hearing about The Patriot Act from Democrats (rightfully so-- The Patriot Act is authoritarian bullshit!). The second Obama became POTUS, The Patriot Act wasn't mentioned by them ever again. Amazing.

There was also the NSA scandal of 2013 during Obama's presidency. Crickets from the left.
 
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I remember my uncle talking about people melted onto metal. My second cousin still can't sleep a full night after 30 years, for reasons he won't tell anyone. It really is a horrible sad thing.
Smedly Butlers War is a Racket (link to PDF of the second highest decorated US marine of all time, read it) opened my eyes and broke my heart at the same time.

Saw the effects of our modern overseas war system take its toll on my own people and for what

How many of us are actually safer at night because of the bombs dropped on a place you cant even point to on a map?

I dont mean to doom, I just care about our people that bear our arms so greatly and I feel we have as deep and obligation to them as they do to us, how dare we send them into these fights without any defined goals other than "fuck em up"

"It is unworthy of a great state to fight in something which does not concern it own interest. Gentlemen, show me and objective worthy of war, and I will go along with you. It is easy enough for the statesman (or forum poster) to ride the popular wave from the comfort of his own fireside, making thunderous speeches (posts) from the rostrum, letting the public sound the trumpets of war, and leaving it to the musketeer, bleeding out his life's blood in the snowy wastes to settle whether polices end in glory, or in failure. Nothing is simpler. But, woe to any statesman, who, at such a time, fails to find a cause of war, which will stand up to the scrutiny, once the fighting is over."

-Otto Von Bismark, Iron Chancellor
 
Anyone who blames anything on boomers, or uses the word boomer in any context, is a fat, ugly, loner with no friends or life or concept of time or basic intelligence to do anything but mash keys and reee.
Kill yourselves, you useless, dumb fucks.

I'm not a 'boomer'. Fucking faggot word used by faggots.
I used to love the word "boomer." Then, I grew up. Cool, I guess.
 
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