William James Mitchell vs. Twin Galaxies LLC, Jeff Harrist & Jeremy Young & donkeykongforum.com, Benjamin Q Smith

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Everybody understands why uniforms have to meet standards. That's why they're called "uniforms".

The point here is the critical distinction between "cheating", as in violating the integrity of the competition, and "rules violations", which can be a whole bunch of other offenses but they don't actually affect the competition per se. Playing the game on a PC vs. an arcade machine is a rules violation because it doesn't effect the competition.
Legit who gives a fuck? Pushing an argument people don't really give a fuck about/find retarded is pointless. All you're doing is acting like jobst and being autistic over pebbles


Internet slap fights are gay, you're not gonna sell your side and likely get a thread ban. This shit is an eyesore. Go play a game, enjoy a ginger beer and chill out. Enjoy life man
 
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Legit who gives a fuck? Pushing an argument people don't really give a fuck about/find retarded is pointless. All you're doing is acting like jobst and being autistic over pebbles


Internet slap fights are gay, you're not gonna sell your side and likely get a thread ban. This shit is an eyesore. Go play a game, enjoy a ginger beer and chill out. Enjoy life man
First, I care because the claim "Billy Mitchell 'cheated' and didn't have record scores in many retro games, including Donkey Kong" is factually wrong.

But, as I've said before, if that is the official meme online - Billy Mitchell is a cheating dirtbag - then, over a long enough timeline, Karl Jobst will be viewed as a fallen hero and not what it is now, which is a cautionary tale of terminally online psychos who get obsessed with shit that's none of their business.

Honestly, as little as I gaf about retro game scores, if the troons' narrative were true - that Billy Mitchell is a psychotic mastermind who's hoaxed his way into video game history and then raged a massive, decades-long conspiracy to oppress those intrepid heroes who try to fight back - I wouldn't have any problem with Karl Jobst slandering him. I'd agree that Billy Mitchell deserved whatever insults came his way.
 
Billy Mitchell is a cheating dirtbag

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First, I care because the claim "Billy Mitchell 'cheated' and didn't have record scores in many retro games, including Donkey Kong" is factually wrong.

But, as I've said before, if that is the official meme online - Billy Mitchell is a cheating dirtbag - then, over a long enough timeline, Karl Jobst will be viewed as a fallen hero and not what it is now, which is a cautionary tale of terminally online psychos who get obsessed with shit that's none of their business.

Honestly, as little as I gaf about retro game scores, if the troons' narrative were true - that Billy Mitchell is a psychotic mastermind who's hoaxed his way into video game history and then raged a massive, decades-long conspiracy to oppress those intrepid heroes who try to fight back - I wouldn't have any problem with Karl Jobst slandering him. I'd agree that Billy Mitchell deserved whatever insults came his way.

Billy could make this disappear and make everyone up to the legal system agree with him:
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If you're really invested in this pointless shit, I think you're just barking up the wrong tree.
 
First, I care because the claim "Billy Mitchell 'cheated' and didn't have record scores in many retro games, including Donkey Kong" is factually wrong.

But, as I've said before, if that is the official meme online - Billy Mitchell is a cheating dirtbag - then, over a long enough timeline, Karl Jobst will be viewed as a fallen hero and not what it is now, which is a cautionary tale of terminally online psychos who get obsessed with shit that's none of their business.

Honestly, as little as I gaf about retro game scores, if the troons' narrative were true - that Billy Mitchell is a psychotic mastermind who's hoaxed his way into video game history and then raged a massive, decades-long conspiracy to oppress those intrepid heroes who try to fight back - I wouldn't have any problem with Karl Jobst slandering him. I'd agree that Billy Mitchell deserved whatever insults came his way.
3 paragraphs in response to essentially saying "it doesn't fucking matter". I ain't reading that shit.
 
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Lunacy, Billy needs to sue more people over this retardation
I had no idea Billy's son went to West Point and became an Apache pilot. Hell I didn't even know he had children until relatively recently...
And this tells me everything I need to know about Billy; he raised his kids right and on how to be successful. His American tie isn't just for show and I think out of all his personal accomplishments in life, the one he holds dear to his heart are the accomplishments of his children. Good on him.
Same can't be said for Jobst. A man who just fucked up his child's future in pursuit of petty grudges.
And for all the speedtroons who think alleged cheating in a 44 year old bingbing wahoo nullifies all of this:
 
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Karl Jobst wasn't just a bystander in the campaign against Apollo Legend, he actively helped orchestrate it. As a researcher for EZScape's video attacking Apollo Legend, Jobst's behind-the-scenes research fuelled the damaging claims, including inflammatory accusations about Apollo's GoFundMe efforts. This video was no innocuous commentary; it was a devastating blow that pushed Apollo to the brink, a fact confirmed by Apollo himself, who named EZScape in his final words. Jobst may not have been holding the camera, but his fingerprints are all over this gruesome spectacle, a fact he later cynically ignored while blaming Billy Mitchell.

Jobst chose to callously weaponise the tragedy, launching baseless attacks blaming Billy Mitchell for Apollo's death. An Australian court saw through the lies and slapped Jobst with a AU$350,000 libel judgment. The court found that Jobst had acted with malice and "reckless indifference" to the truth, highlighting his refusal to check facts, retract venomous allegations, show remorse or treat Mitchell's response with anything but contempt. Instead, Jobst mocked Mitchell's legal efforts and publicly doubled down on a narrative he knew was false. This wasn't just carelessness, it was a deliberate smear campaign to shift the blame away from himself and onto a scapegoat.

Jobst sunk even lower by finding a way to cash in on Apollo's death. He allegedly manipulated his audience into funding a GoFundMe under false pretenses, misrepresenting Mitchell's lawsuit as a threat to free speech. When the backlash erupted, Jobst offered a weak apology about 'transparency': a feeble attempt to deflect accusations of fraud. The hypocrisy is staggering: while he once lambasted Apollo's crowdfunding efforts, Jobst shamelessly replicated the same scheme, profiting from the very tragedy he helped create, and then blamed Mitchell for the consequences of all of his own actions.

It's deeply disturbing that Jobst, knowing full well that his and his associates' harassment contributed to Apollo's death, then turned his venom on Billy Mitchell. He subjected Mitchell to a vicious, sustained campaign of bullying, producing twenty-one videos designed to defame, humiliate and 'destroy' him. This obsessive vendetta reveals a calculated cruelty and willingness to destroy reputations. Jobst knew that his own actions had contributed to Apollo's death, yet he callously recycled the same strategies to target Mitchell, weaponising his platform to bury his own guilt.

Karl Jobst's behaviour reveals a moral void. He helped hound Apollo Legend to the breaking point, lied about Mitchell to deflect blame, allegedly misled fans for money, and bullied his targets without remorse. His most egregious sin? Accusing Mitchell of destroying Apollo, knowing full well that he himself had helped orchestrate the harassment that broke him.
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What is going on here?
 
Playing the game on a PC vs. an arcade machine is a rules violation because it doesn't effect the competition.
is it cheating to lie and deceive others about your proven and verified violation of the rules to the point of suing people so theyre afraid to say the truth about it?
also on a semi related note does it get hard to talk with a d-list gamer celebritys cock lodged in your mouth who has no idea you exist and spend all this time zealously defending them on a green fruit internet forum?
 
I didn't copy it. Surely my message precedes this post. Also, my name is not Leonardo Fernanded, nor do I know any Leonardo.

I don't know why I can't quote your message directly.

Would you like to share the link where you found it? Is it YouTube?
 
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I didn't copy it. Surely my message precedes this post. Also, my name is not Leonardo Fernanded, nor do I know any Leonardo.

I don't know why I can't quote your message directly.

Would you like to share the link where you found it? Is it YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzyU7JoCro
Are you spreading this somewhere? It's just strange to see a new user make a write up and then seeing it copy-pasted in youtube comments.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzyU7JoCro
Are you spreading this somewhere? It's just strange to see a new user make a write up and then seeing it copy-pasted in youtube comments.

No, I'm not. And even if I am stupid, I'm not stupid enough to use a real name to share something like this. My username here is from a well-known work by Harlan Ellison.

I would comment on YouTube, but my username there is actually my real name. I have a certain amount of notoriety for reasons that have nothing to do with this topic.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzyU7JoCro
Are you spreading this somewhere? It's just strange to see a new user make a write up and then seeing it copy-pasted in youtube comments.
A lot of people post stuff from kiwifarms in youtube comments when stuff like this happens. Ive seen several comments (allthough not so obviously copied directly from here) that sound a lot like kiwiposts. Shit like this goes around fast.
 
I would comment on YouTube, but my username there is actually my real name. I have a certain amount of notoriety for reasons that have nothing to do with this topic.
Ok buddy.

You write like Karl speaks with only minor deviation.

I’ve watched every single video Karl published for years up until the collab with Mutahar where I finally couldn’t take it anymore.

Yes, I’m insinuating you’re Karl and if my gut feeling is right then this is an incredibly retarded way to attempt to recover something from this shit show. Gay behavior.

Edit: for clarity
 
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So I was checking out what some of the more normie YouTubers are saying and noticed that Oompaville made a video about the lawsuit. I only know him from his collab with Wendigoon and the Mr. beast interview, so I have never seen any of his normal videos. Holy shit, it is unwatchable. He is trying to be like old school Idubbbz, but worst in everyway. How the fuck is this guy popular?

I didn't copy it. Surely my message precedes this post. Also, my name is not Leonardo Fernanded, nor do I know any Leonardo.

I don't know why I can't quote your message directly.

Would you like to share the link where you found it? Is it YouTube?
It is ok Leo, your secret is safe with us.
 
I would like this Strelok to shut the fuck up. No more coy nameshit. You're not supposed to realname here, and if you do, you're an absolute dipshit. Can the fucking "maybe I am maybe I'm not".

I would like to know the extent of Jobst finances. A lot of youtubers larp as being "Just like us" and meanwhile their video is filmed on a set, and they're millionaires.
I want to know how much this judgement would actually hurt jobst.
 
This is fucking retarded. Billy cheated, but he's still a pretty decent player. He can beat any of us at any given moment if he still had those skills. He had many legitimate records and some decent placings. Instead of honing his skills, he chose to cheat. That's it. 99% of speedrun nerds who cheat falls under this.

Still waiting for Karl's video where he copes and seethes. I decided to ask around my older circles when I was still down in aboland. None of them thought the lawsuit was with regards to his defamatory statements about some guy's suicide. They all thought the defamation was that "Billy cheated", which was not the case at all. Even if Karl explained somewhere, it's hidden among layers of seething about Billy's gay cheated arcade runs. It gives off a totally false impression, one must question whether this was deceptive or just retardation.

He also had the option to just settle this bullshit and release a video clearly saying Billy didn't contribute to ApolloLegend's rope troonskip 41% challenge. Instead of being the bigger man, he dragged his chink wife and many of his diehard fans on an arduous trail of retard drivel. It must have been stressful to be his family.

Then there's his dabbling is gay grift-right circles with that other speedrun sperg Wild Goose or whatever. I'm not implying that he's wife beater, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's pretty abusive in person. The men who goes down this pipeline are always fucked and just a few more steps towards becoming either a mass shooter or trooning out, or both. Schizophrenic theories aside, hope it's all right.

I still don't think he deserved that kind of judgement. It's obvious that the goofy judge resented him. Maybe his son was the same as Karl, some dummy who grew up consuming American media, got a fucked up accent because of that and sits in his basement all day playing vidya. Oh I did say enough with schizo theories. I digress.
 
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