The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

[mindlessobserver]

Fair enough. Hey, if Americans want to get low-value production back to be paid slave labor so they can make shit like low-quality shoes while also having to pay more for it. Then, I also support that.

Be a far more productive use of time and money then the current system that just pays millions of people hundreds of dollars a month to not be working. Want to eat? Go make the shoes. It was such a kind hearted system. All those poor people, working in factories so they could pay for a shitty roof and shitty food. Wouldn't it be better if they didn't have to work and the roof/food was free?!

Of course it would be better! And so would pet unicorns and rainbows with pots of gold at the end of them!

That's the real kicker. Reshoring can work. But EBT has to be ended. and Section 8. It was a wonderful experiment, these last 50 years. But the results have been a disaster. End those two programs alone and I guarantee alot of jobs Americans are willing to work will be filled rapidly. It would also solve the tweaker epidemic. A combination of withdrawal and starvation will end it quick.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Be a far more productive use of time and money then the current system that just pays millions of people hundreds of dollars a month to not be working. Want to eat? Go make the shoes. It was such a kind hearted system. All those poor people, working in factories so they could pay for a shitty roof and shitty food. Wouldn't it be better if they didn't have to work and the roof/food was free?!

Of course it would be better! And so would pet unicorns and rainbows with pots of gold at the end of them!

That's the real kicker. Reshoring can work. But EBT has to be ended. and Section 8. It was a wonderful experiment, these last 50 years. But the results have been a disaster. End those two programs alone and I guarantee alot of jobs Americans are willing to work will be filled rapidly. It would also solve the tweaker epidemic. A combination of withdrawal and starvation will end it quick.

I agree that you and the lower classes should know your place. Why not put Americans to work in horrible working conditions with limited safety and environmental controls?
Why should I, the specialist who is paid more than you, have to consider worker safety? We could save a ton of money, yes people will die or be maimed, but think of all the money the company would save.

Yes, and people in these low-paying jobs could not afford to live as we are not paying a decent wage; think of all the savings that we who are paid more and the company owners could do. Is it good to have a subservient lower class of white Americans working themself to death so they can make more money? Is that not what America is all about?

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

You were going to see a massive economic collapse anyways regardless of who did or did not become president due to the fact that the United States in 2020 printed nearly doubled the amount of currency that had already had created that money doesn't just vanish in the thin air

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

You were going to see a massive economic collapse anyways regardless of who did or did not become president due to the fact that the United States in 2020 printed nearly doubled the amount of currency that had already had created that money doesn't just vanish in the thin air

I always did say that if your current rulers magically disappeared overnight and were replaced by the common man, they'd collapse society even faster.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

I always did say that if your current rulers magically disappeared overnight and were replaced by the common man, they'd collapse society even faster.

Well over half the economy is literally just giving people jobs so they don't start shooting each other the economy is faking gay let society collapse we will build a greater society from the ashes like the Phoenix of something

 

[Town Drunk]

I work to make money. My money doesn't make money except the pathetic intrest rate I'm paid by the bank.

Let the stock market crash. Don't give a fuck.

People are still going to need the goods my blue collar ass produces. I have job security.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

How does one "crash start factories"?
I understand you are likely retarded and think it is like in a video game where you beep boop some shit other, and it works, but as someone who has taken part in factory upstarts almost from the ground up. Do tell me how that will work.

Hitler retooled Germany for its greatest military campaign in a span of just six years. Germany went from having almost zero tank production or other war industries in 1933 to building an army that dominated europe in 1939. There is zero indication the US would be unable to re-industrialize, and in less time, if there was the political will to do so. Anyone who says you can't has never been to a factory, or is just a soft fatty scared everyone will find out he doesn't do real work.

The bigger question of course is if the doomers convince the working age population it can't be done and convince them to vote in another Democrat to restart their grift, but that's a discussion separate from actual production capabilities. How did the US become the biggest, most productive industrialized country after December 7, 1941, and during the Great Depression, no less? It wasn't because it paid attention to doomers saying "Noooo you can't do that!". You're not even American so don't tell us what we can and can't do. Get back in your Euro lane.

 

[TerribleUser09]

Hitler retooled Germany for its greatest military campaign in a span of just six years. Germany went from having almost zero tank production or other war industries in 1933 to building an army that dominated europe in 1939.

This is like half-true. Germans didn't reindustrialize. Their production capacities were capped by Entente and occupation of Rhineland by France. The mentioned "tank production" wouldn't be possible without Rapallo Treaty allowing Germans to send engineers to USSR for research and development of new ways of mass-production. Suffice to say, that without Stalin's oil, steel and grain Germans wouldn't be able to wage a war.

Again, we are touching here a great example that cooperation and international trade is good... well if at least nobody's preparing for war.

How did the US become the biggest, most productive industrialized country after December 7, 1941, and during the Great Depression, no less? It wasn't because it paid attention to doomers saying "Noooo you can't do that!". You're not even American so don't tell us what we can and can't do. Get back in your Euro lane.

If main counterparts in Europe were devastated by war there wasn't really any competition in this field, don't you think? UK despite having the vast amount of workforce in India, Africa and so on wouldn't be able to compete with German war effort due to lack of resources that were at hand to Germans provided by the temporary ally whose railways were leading to Nazi factories full of forced, impoverished, manpower from all over the Europe.

Why not put Americans to work in horrible working conditions with limited safety and environmental controls?

It would be funny if it weren't the current goal of US administration right now. Especially, when Appalachia redneck voters support Trump despite it is against their interest to do so.

The only way to reindustrialize US in current times is to abandon any labor standards and safety conditions and impose framework from India or Pakistan with factories full of juvenile, underpaid people working and sleeping in their place of work. That would move the factories from developing countries to OECD prime power house. It would look dystopian, but hey, at least the market and GDP indicator would skyrocket to highest levels never seen before.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Hitler retooled Germany for its greatest military campaign in a span of just six years. Germany went from having almost zero tank production or other war industries in 1933 to building an army that dominated europe in 1939. There is zero indication the US would be unable to re-industrialize, and in less time, if there was the political will to do so. Anyone who says you can't has never been to a factory, or is just a soft fatty scared everyone will find out he doesn't do real work.

That America was built by Ford, Carnegie, and Getty, people that specialized in heavy industry and energy. Thus, it was easy to convert car manufacturing to plane manufacturing. Today's America is built by Gates, Zuckerberg, and Bezos, and those guys specialize in social media and software. Which is good for cancel culture financial fuckery, but not so great for a military industrial complex that's supposed to make thing at scale. That's why both Biden and Trump can't escalate to WWIII war-time economy despite wanting to build up manufacturing.

 

[MG-34]

That's the real kicker. Reshoring can work. But EBT has to be ended. and Section 8. It was a wonderful experiment, these last 50 years. But the results have been a disaster. End those two programs alone and I guarantee alot of jobs Americans are willing to work will be filled rapidly. It would also solve the tweaker epidemic. A combination of withdrawal and starvation will end it quick.

Don't under estimate the bottom tier of society to not do anything. The moment you make a welfare for work program the useless eaters will start claiming to be too disabled or mentally defective to work. I'm sure some will even self mutilate to prove it. We would withstand this in a nation that isn't democratic and just let the useless eaters die off, but unfortunately these types will have their sob stories run 24/7 on old media until the next election cycle.

 

[Male Idiot]

Hitler retooled Germany for its greatest military campaign in a span of just six years. Germany went from having almost zero tank production or other war industries in 1933 to building an army that dominated europe in 1939. There is zero indication the US would be unable to re-industrialize, and in less time, if there was the political will to do so. Anyone who says you can't has never been to a factory, or is just a soft fatty scared everyone will find out he doesn't do real work.

The bigger question of course is if the doomers convince the working age population it can't be done and convince them to vote in another Democrat to restart their grift, but that's a discussion separate from actual production capabilities. How did the US become the biggest, most productive industrialized country after December 7, 1941, and during the Great Depression, no less? It wasn't because it paid attention to doomers saying "Noooo you can't do that!". You're not even American so don't tell us what we can and can't do. Get back in your Euro lane.

Hitler and Stalin had a motivated, healthy population.

US has 3 big factors holding it back:
-Unhealthy, fat, mentally unwell, coddled population. Plus niggers.
-Lots of red tape and judges and activists, that can't be just sent off to Auswigulag.
-A big money maker class who also doesn't want cooperate.

You can't have a full service (luxury) economy.
You'll need food, medicine security for population.
You need enough heavy industry to make at least one brand of cheap, usable home made car, truck and tractor.
You should have one for basic appliances and electronics.

But what germans, russians and anglo-americans of the 50s could do, maybe beyond what mystery meat zoomers and nogs and wetbacks and jeets can do.

Plus Blackrock buys up all the housing. Cost of living had entered late stage capitalism, which is just a mix of oligarchy/corporatism dystopia, it just sounds better with capitalism in it.

How much should a playwood trailer trash home for a nignog janitor cost? It needs walls, windows, door, a toilet, a shower, a microwave and maybe AC/wifi if we are being socialist.
The US has a lot of free space and builds homes out of cardboard, I mean drywood. A group of Amish could raise such a home in a week. Housing in the US should be the cheapest in the developed world.

But even jeets have tuktuks. It is not Homer Simpson's Canyonero, but it does carry food to the market.

 

[Ambidextype]

I definately want sweatshop work for them, especially the niggers. Dem farm equipment have been on gibsmuh since Martin Looter Kang, time for them to earn their oxygen and waddymelon again.

But no, what I want is China/Russia/Iran to win. Trump doing a Yuge Depression 2.0 : Make Tariffs Bigly Again is just a happy coincidence.

I have been thinking about this lately, too. Some discussions I had in the other forums weeks ago lead to the assertion America has plenty of useless bloat workers and complete waste of oxygens that should definitely be put to sweatshop. If it was me, I wouldn't mind bringing back slavery class when I saw there were so many uppity dimwits, perverts and groomers in America that were holding a lot of bloat jobs that were let go recently, what I thought was too light of a punishment and waste when they could be forced to be in slavery labour but I guess lower wage cagie will do.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Sounds to me like it's time for the working class to learn what actual hard work is like.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Really, there is a way back from this by just going out there and voting in the right candidate?



It looks like back then real life Nazi war criminals had quite the housing here in Canada. Compared to the 250 thousand homeless we have here now, who did not commit any war crimes. Seems to be the secret ingredient to get proper housing though.

 

[MadStan]

Hitler retooled Germany for its greatest military campaign in a span of just six years. Germany went from having almost zero tank production or other war industries in 1933 to building an army that dominated europe in 1939. There is zero indication the US would be unable to re-industrialize, and in less time, if there was the political will to do so. Anyone who says you can't has never been to a factory, or is just a soft fatty scared everyone will find out he doesn't do real work.

The bigger question of course is if the doomers convince the working age population it can't be done and convince them to vote in another Democrat to restart their grift, but that's a discussion separate from actual production capabilities. How did the US become the biggest, most productive industrialized country after December 7, 1941, and during the Great Depression, no less? It wasn't because it paid attention to doomers saying "Noooo you can't do that!". You're not even American so don't tell us what we can and can't do. Get back in your Euro lane.

Building tanks is easy.

Now cheap plushies and Pokémons from China, well to do that in 6 years would be something.

But I’ve seen roadworks here take 5 years that in other countries are done in 6 months. I’m uncertain of the steel of an American worker tbh.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

You'll need food, medicine security for population.
You need enough heavy industry to make at least one brand of cheap, usable home made car, truck and tractor.
You should have one for basic appliances and electronics.

Who owns it though? This is only possible with nationalization of healthcare, heavy industry, utilities, infrastructure and creation or seizure of corporations and private property to create large-scale publicly owned enterprises directed via central planning. I prefer a voluntary approach to collectivization but we could set up state-owned farms and machinery pools to support the collective farms.

If we're talking that we are well past the point of reindustrialization in a mixed economy into full state socialism...I really can't oppose that, it's what I truly support.

Man things are moving faster than I expected. I wouldn't mind Marathon's Galveston Bay refinery renamed VEB POE Galveston Bay "Agamemnon Busmalis".

 

[MeltyTW]

Again, we are touching here a great example that cooperation and international trade is good... well if at least nobody's preparing for war.

see the thing is germany actually got something out of that trade and didnt just agree to endlessly import cheap junk that made us more and more dependent on foreign cabals to make goods of ever diminishing quality to turn the country into baristas and burger flippers who live in pods. also we have resources theyre just not being used despite being in abundance

It would be funny if it weren't the current goal of US administration right now. Especially, when Appalachia redneck voters support Trump despite it is against their interest to do so.

yeah its so much better that our states have no jobs

The only way to reindustrialize US in current times is to abandon any labor standards and safety conditions and impose framework from India or Pakistan with factories full of juvenile, underpaid people working and sleeping in their place of work. That would move the factories from developing countries to OECD prime power house. It would look dystopian, but hey, at least the market and GDP indicator would skyrocket to highest levels never seen before

we still have factories now. we can just do that .... but more. like we take alook at this one america factory, we get people to build one like it.WOAH what a concept! its almost like we arent fucking reinventing the wheel but rather saying "hey maybe we can make another wheel just like that"

 

[Fcret]

Apparently the plan is to massively expand domestic heavy industry within five years by sacrificing consumption for investment and the extensive use of prisoners from corrective labor camps.

Ah yes... some kind of.... Five year plan.

 

[Null]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/trump-tariffs-live-updates-us-stronger-despite-market/?id=120551033

46% on Vietnam
32% on Taiwan
25% on South Korea
24% on Japan
20% on European Union countries

and many, many more.

 

[Forgot My Old Account :(]

This seems slightly foolish.