US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Onepumpplumpchump]

I’m on team MacArthur

They should have let MacArthur go ham during the Korean war. They could have prevented all this.

 

[Scrumption]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/08/us/politics/irs-ice-tax-data-deal.html

https://archive.is/RWu4n

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This isn’t good. While we don’t know exactly how many illegal aliens pay taxes for certain, the ones who were looking to legalize their status are motivated to obtain tax ID numbers and pay because the government considers evidence of tax filings when weighing their cases. This is not a rare situation; it is more or less expected of illegals who submit applications to resolve their status that they have a few years of tax returns. Going forward, illegal aliens will be disincentivized to file taxes. Depending how this information is used, it effectively punishes the illegal aliens who did the right thing and rewards those who didn’t.

This exchange of information alone will not motivate illegal aliens to leave, so people who would otherwise be paying taxes while using government services will continue to use them but will stop paying into them.

 

[mold]

Bro. They flooded us with thorium as "health products" for years.
It's fucking amazing we haven't bombed the three gorges dam over that.

bombing the three gorges dam and subsequent hell is exactly what will happen if there isn't a trade war

we are this close to everything going to unimaginable shit

 

[BigJoey41X]

after reading all of the replies to my post it seems the general consensus is China should be economically destroyed, no matter what, and then we should reshore manufacturing back home, I generally agree about the second part, while I'm very iffy about the former

Here is the hard reality, the Chinese and American economies are tightly, economically linked to each other, we can all make a point about how this might not have been a good decision in the long term, the Chinese will be the ones hurt more by this, no doubt, but we can also discuss how we will not be spared from the fallout.

I don't think you people realize this, but most Americans aren't willing to hurt themselves to fuck with a foreign country on the other side of the Pacific Ocean, which might be shocking news, since many of you are so fanatic to Trump and his agenda to the point you are willing to sacrifice your finances for it.

If this gets really bad, don't be surprised we'll have a Democrat surge by midterms and the next presidential election.

 

[password1215_12]

Because

1: China is the most expansionist country on the earth, and constantly threaten everyone else in the Indo Pacific region, which involves a lot of alternative trading partners and US allies

The United States has approximately 800 military bases globally, infiltrated hundreds of sovereign elections and financed foreign death squads, and has used surveillance on allies and its own citizens.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Depending how this information is used, it effectively punishes the illegal aliens who did the right thing and rewards those who didn’t.

Doing the right thing means not being an illegal alien in the first place. The right thing would've been to stay home.

 

[deleuzeon]

This isn’t good. While we don’t know exactly how many illegal aliens pay taxes for certain, the ones who were looking to legalize their status are motivated to obtain tax ID numbers and pay because the government considers evidence of tax filings when weighing their cases. This is not a rare situation; it is more or less expected of illegals who submit applications to resolve their status that they have a few years of tax returns. Going forward, illegal aliens will be disincentivized to file taxes. Depending how this information is used, it effectively punishes the illegal aliens who did the right thing and rewards those who didn’t.

This exchange of information alone will not motivate illegal aliens to leave, so people who would otherwise be paying taxes while using government services will continue to use them but will stop paying into them.

They shouldn't be filing taxes because they don't belong in this country. To the extent that they have income it should be entirely seized. If a government agent accepts a tax filing from someone they somehow know is here illegally, that agent should be guilty of a felony quite frankly

 

[Angelos32]

I don't think you people realize this, but most Americans aren't willing to hurt themselves to fuck with a foreign country on the other side of the Pacific Ocean

Yeah but those people aren’t on the internet so we don’t see them here

 

[UCT]

With 104% tariffs on China it’s time for Trump to play his Blue Eyes White Dragon: legalizing weed. Everyone would instantly forget that their heckin Nintendo switch 2 is $1200

The Switch isn’t made in China, they make them out of Vietnam.

 

[BigJoey41X]

The United States has approximately 800 military bases globally, infiltrated hundreds of sovereign elections and financed foreign death squads, and has used surveillance on allies and its own citizens.

Let's stop pretending the United States is the global hegemon because we are the "most moral", its because we benefit the most from this position and we stomp out any opposition not because "preserving democracy" or "upholding American values", it's usually because we want to stay as the top dog.

 

[CyrusHowler]

They should have let MacArthur go ham during the Korean war. They could have prevented all this.

Scumbag Racist Woodrow Wilson should’ve let the Doughboys finish the job in Siberia in 1919 then we wouldn’t have had the Soviets either.
Truman should’ve listened to Patton and Churchill’s plan to March right through Berlin and go straight to Moscow. He also should’ve planted an A bomb on Moscow in 1945.

 

[password1215_12]

Let's stop pretending the United States is the global hegemon because we are the "most moral", its because we benefit the most from this position and we stomp out any opposition not because "preserving democracy" or "upholding American values", it's usually because we want to stay as the top dog.

Of course. But claiming that another country other than the United States is the "most expansionist" is just dumb.

That guy just needs to call himself a neoconservative that loves war.

It's also funny he mentions how envious he is of China so instead of actually building something here, he wants to violently lash out at a country on the other side of the world.

Americans are so shortsighted they can't even see that their thinking got them into this mess. 20 years in Afghanistan and Trump is negotiating with the Taliban to reclaim a big US base there.

 

[GunCar Gary]

If this gets really bad, don't be surprised we'll have a Democrat surge by midterms and the next presidential election.

there's a good chance of that happening anyway because a large number of conservatives only begrudgingly tolerate the success that Trump has dragged the republican party into. the boomers and gen xers that make up the majority of congress will be more than happy to go back to being graceful losers and lining their own pockets at the expense of the average American as soon as Trump's tenure is over

even with Vance, assuming he even achieves anything in 2028, there will be no MAGA legacy other than grifters using his name to try and trick people into voting for them a la Reagan. Trump has two years, and if we're being very generous, four years, to make his mark and get America back on the right track. the time to make meaningful change is now

 

[The Ugly One]

It's the only downside so far living in a legal state. The smell of skunk wafting over literally anything at any given time. Vapes generally don't smell much either. But your flower purists insist on letting everyone in a 40' radius around them know they're both carrying and burning at all times, it seems.

We should legalize weed and killing anyone who infects your breathable air with the stench of their smoke, since making me smell that shit without my consent violates the NAP.

 

[JayseeDenton]

People have written probably a collective 50 pages in this thread alone about why reshoring manufacturing is good. I haven't actually seen "fuck the other side" raised as one of the reasons.

It's also worth noting that a very substantial percentage of the "other side" is silently happy about all this. Anybody older than 25, hell 20, knows what I'm talking about.

Economic leftists have never liked globalization, bernie sanders was firmly against the PPP, "shop local/fuck cheaper prices" was a left wing mantra not even 5 years ago that oddly just disappeared... Karl Marx was staunchly against unchecked immigration and pointed out that communism couldn't function without strict borders.

It actually used to be a mainstream liberal position to hate globalization. Look at the opening gag of this democrat campaign ad from 2008. https://youtu.be/FiQJ9Xp0xxU?t=5

I can't find it now but I remember a popular leftist meme years ago that had a white guy sitting in a chair while a mexican fed him food, a vietnamese was sewing the shirt he was wearing, a chinese was making the chair, it somehow depicted some african kid mining the materials in his phone or something like that. Here's some along the same lines:


Point is the "you should be happy jobs are being shipped oversees and done by slave labor because you get lower prices" is NOT a normal left wing position, they're only taking it because of their prodigious amounts of TDS. Many left wingers do have a functioning memory, they remember when globalism was bad and most still feel like it is. These people didn't go anywhere, they just got silent due to the conflicting nature of woke politics. The "having a problem with importing a slave class is xenophobic" and "you have to be okay with foreign entities owning the apartment you rent because native Americans were here first or something" silenced the strictly economic and far more reasonable socialists, but they still exist and are reluctantly beaming about all this.

Also LOL at any of them trying to tell me they suddenly give a fuck about the DOW jones.

It's just part of the party reshuffle we're seeing and why there's an offputting lack of rage towards Trump compared to last time.

 

[mlanguishi]

We should legalize weed and killing anyone who infects your breathable air with the stench of their smoke, since making me smell that shit without my consent violates the NAP.

No bag limit, only way I'd support legalizing. Ban narcan too, the gene pool needs a huge flush of drug users.

 

[Netizennameless]

The ones stationed in Iraq to help topple Saddam's government did in fact die for nothing, or rather, they died for a complete fucking lie.
Please refrain from drinking Neocon/Lincoln Project cum if you wish to invoke patriotism.

Braindead insult. Both wars had extreme public support at the time because the public wanted revenge. They wanted dead sand niggers and they got them. It's easy to sit there and be smug 20 years after the bloodlust faded and hide behind the "we were misled about Iraq!" excuse. No we weren't. It's just not polite to tell the truth anymore.

"But Venezuelan detainees can challenge removal in Texas court"
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY. Just deport them already.

No, we need due process. Make sure we didn't accidentally round up an American citizen first and then deport their ass.

 

[The Ugly One]

Economic leftists have never liked globalization, bernie sanders was firmly against the PPP, "shop local/fuck cheaper prices" was a left wing mantra not even 5 years ago that oddly just disappeared... Karl Marx was staunchly against unchecked immigration and pointed out that communism couldn't function without strict borders.

Turns out economic leftists didn't really exist, they all just hated Dad and wanted to live in transgender polycules.

 

[Postal_Rat]

after reading all of the replies to my post it seems the general consensus is China should be economically destroyed, no matter what, and then we should reshore manufacturing back home, I generally agree about the second part, while I'm very iffy about the former

Here is the hard reality, the Chinese and American economies are tightly, economically linked to each other, we can all make a point about how this might not have been a good decision in the long term, the Chinese will be the ones hurt more by this, no doubt, but we can also discuss how we will not be spared from the fallout.

The two objectives are intrinsically linked if we reshore american manufacturing we will by definition buy drastically less from china this will crash their economy if their economy crashes we will by definition need to make more of our own shit fundamentally neither of these things can happen without the other.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

But your flower purists insist on letting everyone in a 40' radius around them know they're both carrying and burning at all times, it seems

We should legalize weed and killing anyone who infects your breathable air with the stench of their smoke, since making me smell that shit without my consent violates the NAP.

You're one of those faggots, aren't you.