I Dislike Anime - Even The Ones That You Like

Most fucking naive retard thinking ever. do you think anime just spawned from hell in a vacuum to make Japan lonely? The entire east has a loneliness problem, that's why anime has so much wish fufilment in the first place, you're putting the cart before the horse.
Are you seriously implying that most adults in Japan watch anime to deal with loneliness? Holy delusional. Yes, Japanese society is messed up, but that doesn't mean they all use anime to cope with that. Lots of otaku do mess up their lives independently of Japanese society because they're entitled manchildren who only care about their next loli goonsesh. They use anime to cope and whale out because it provides porn and escapism, which further hurts them.
Also you wouldn't get haggled buying a video game, it's probably the same with anime there. It's at least tolerated, only in your mind you would think otherwise.
Anime is tolerated here too. You won't get harassed or dogpiled for liking anime outside certain internet communities and a mid 2000s high school. I've seen random strangers in public have anime fumos and bag pins and car stickers apropos of nothing. Tolerance does not imply acceptance, and anime is only accepted by other weebs.
Why give it a pass? Wouldn't you rebuke western slop that has no LGBT by association like you do with anime that isn't moeslop pedo garbage?
Western media is not inherently or primarily LGBT stuff like anime has primarily been moeslop pedo garbage since the 80s. Those are outliers you can easily avoid, and those shows weren't very good anyways.
Also defending media institutions like marvel and lego is prime soyjak manchild material, and I think you would know about that.
Weebs always act like anime is way better than Marvel, when it's just as bad with the things people complain about Marvel for. Anime has fourth-wall-breaking quips, dumb style-over-substance flashy fights, and stories that are either too long for what they're trying to do or completely decay and fall apart by the end. Also say what you will about the Funko-collecting Marvel soyboys, but at least the main material is sufficiently separated from porn (I know there's Marvel coomerbait, but there's a reason people don't think comic book geeks are coomers) and they don't do the equivalent of Naruto running through their college campus.
 
Are you seriously implying that most adults in Japan watch anime to deal with loneliness? Holy delusional. Yes, Japanese society is messed up, but that doesn't mean they all use anime to cope with that. Lots of otaku do mess up their lives independently of Japanese society because they're entitled manchildren who only care about their next loli goonsesh. They use anime to cope and whale out because it provides porn and escapism, which further hurts them.
What proof do you have that Japan looks down at you for liking anime? I have never seen ANYTHING ANYWHERE where anime is shamed upon in Japanese circles. Most of Japan is conservative and uncritical of even their worst aspects of their culture, unlike the west.

I would rather you just call them rapist yellow monsters and get on with your day, it would be more honest
Western media is not inherently or primarily LGBT stuff like anime has primarily been moeslop pedo garbage since the 80s. Those are outliers you can easily avoid, and those shows weren't very good anyways.
It's in the culture now in the same way as the "kawaii" culture is in japan, but you wouldn't shame me for liking any western animation. What western animation do you like?
Also say what you will about the Funko-collecting Marvel soyboys, but at least the main material is sufficiently separated from porn
What delineates porn and nuanced, reserved and respectful sexual themes to you? How much skin can you show? Whats the limit for violence? Every adult movie has to have a fucking sex scene now but I wouldn't call the Minecraft movie porn because it's Hollywood
 
@Space Police Before I disagreed with you, but now I realize how wrong I was. In fact, I would actually extend that to any anthropomorphic character ever made. Even if it looks like Warner Bros and not furry porn, it's still clearly pornographic and appeals to furries. Anything anthro made after the internet should be banned

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Thinking that everyone in Japan likes anime and that it's a normal thing there is delusional weeb thinking.
Who said anything about "everyone" in Japan "liking" anime there? That's a strawman, I just don't think they actively dislike it as you claimed. I don't believe it's abnormal for someone in Japan to watch anime, but you're free to cite your sources any time now.

The fact that we have lots of gaming stores and game ads on billboards doesn't mean that everyone in the West likes video games.
Almost everyone plays video games. It's a bigger industry than film last I checked, but at any rate it's certainly a big one and many people play them. I've never met a single person who doesn't aside from the elderly, even my parents would occasionally play.

I'm not into anime anymore.
But you were relatively recently, don't make me go through your post history to see when and what you watched in the last year.

I tried watching Combattler a week ago and I turned it off after 5 minutes
You have trash taste in anime, you watch obscure ancient shit, I'm surprised you made it 5 minutes into whatever that is. Watch Death Note or Samurai Champloo instead.

Appreciate and build your own culture.
Liberals hijacked and decimated it, but that's actually a good mentality to have, though the reality is that if you want to watch or play something currently then nowadays it almost HAS to be foreign to be any good.

I can't speak about Dragon Ball Daima because I haven't seen it.
See, you really do have trash taste in anime, Dragon Ball is the best anime franchise and you haven't watched it :stress:

The fact that the majority of scripted shows on Japanese TV channels are Western?
Yes, a source for that please.

How? It's just changing up details; the key shape and features are already there. Making a unique spacecraft (that's not a floating modern vehicle, gun, or log) or a space station is much more difficult because you have a lot more freedom.
For example, designing Transformers has to be difficult as fuck, it's like animating a puzzle. First of all you need to design it, which is tough enough because of the intricate movement and logistics involved in all the pieces that will be necessary to completely change its form, but then animating that has to be a nightmare.

Drawing biological creatures is probably the easiest, you can draw a human or animal any way you want basically and nobody can say it's wrong if you have the right art style, but a robot or other machine needs to have lots of little details simply not present in those characters.

The best ones don't.
Same for anime.

I did not say that all Japanese animation is pedophilic. There is a difference between Japanese animation and anime; if anime was strictly Japanese animation rather than a style, then anime conventions wouldn't be filled with gacha and Vtuber stuff nowadays. Things like Anpanman and Shimajirou aren't anime because they don't use the same style.
Anime is basically just the Japanese word for animation and westerners use it to differentiate Japanese animation from others.

Trying these incorrect technicalities to backtrack and carve out exceptions isn't going to work on anybody with a functioning brain. Not all anime is for pedophiles, and you watch/recently used to watch anime so even if you think it is then you're just telling on yourself.

Why give it a pass? Wouldn't you rebuke western slop that has no LGBT by association like you do with anime that isn't moeslop pedo garbage?
Because he's probably a self-hating weeb and seems to be a liberal on top of it. Loli trash anime is degenerate and he's right to condemn it, but he downplays complaints about literal LGBT propaganda in western cartoons because he seems okay with it. As bad as lolifags are at least their shit is aimed at adults, western cartoons trying to turn kids gay and trans is much worse, but the thing is you can condemn both yet he won't.

Western media is not inherently or primarily LGBT stuff like anime has primarily been moeslop pedo garbage since the 80s.
That's not true of anime either, both anime and western animation are diverse enough that you can avoid all that shit. I do think degenerate shit is more common in anime though.

Weebs always act like anime is way better than Marvel
It's an objective fact. I'd rather watch an entirely random anime than anything from modern Marvel, and peak anime shits all over peak capeshit.
 
Anime is basically just the Japanese word for animation and westerners use it to differentiate between Japanese animation from others.

Trying these incorrect technicalities to backtrack and carve out exceptions isn't going to work on anybody with a functioning brain. Not all anime is for pedophiles, and you watch/recently used to watch anime so even if you think it is then you're just telling on yourself.
I'm pretty sure that they call western shows anime as well, but he wouldn't know. He pretends to be an expert but provides 0 proof or showing of knowledge of Japan at all. He makes shit up, and convienently forgets that all anime isn't moe high school creep shit for weird adults, but there's shonen and pokemon and magical girl stuff, that has child fans. Apparently Pokemon is the largest media franchise ever, but 100% of the fans are made up of child predators, and the japs prefer our SUPERIOR NON-PEDOPHILIC CULTURE and anyone there who likes animation in-house is an untouchable
 
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What proof do you have that Japan looks down at you for liking anime? I have never seen ANYTHING ANYWHERE where anime is shamed upon in Japanese circles. Most of Japan is conservative and uncritical of even their worst aspects of their culture, unlike the west.
Who said anything about "everyone" in Japan "liking" anime there? That's a strawman, I just don't think they actively dislike it as you claimed. I don't believe it's abnormal for someone in Japan to watch anime, but you're free to cite your sources any time now.
Because anime is made by/for otaku, and otaku are hated in Japan for being weird creeps? Anime is actively disliked by anyone anywhere who's not a retarded otaku; it's childish tripe that losers pass off as really deep and smart and well-written to cope (which you can do with anything, by the way, as long as your standards are low enough and you're stupid enough).
I would rather you just call them rapist yellow monsters and get on with your day, it would be more honest
I'm saying the opposite, in fact.
Almost everyone plays video games. It's a bigger industry than film last I checked, but at any rate it's certainly a big one and many people play them. I've never met a single person who doesn't aside from the elderly, even my parents would occasionally play.
I don't. I played Mario Kart and Sonic a couple of summers ago for nostalgia, and I played an SRW six months ago, and that's it. Those were special exceptions; video games give me a headache and always leave me unsatisfied, so I avoid them.
But you were relatively recently, don't make me go through your post history to see when and what you watched in the last year.
I'll grant you that, but minds can change. When you've seen a certain amount of anime and see the same anime multiple times, the flaws become more and more difficult to ignore, and you realize it's really not that good.
For example, designing Transformers has to be difficult as fuck, it's like animating a puzzle. First of all you need to design it, which is tough enough because of the intricate movement and logistics involved in all the pieces that will be necessary to completely change its form, but then animating that has to be a nightmare.
Transforming robots never have accurately-animated transformations. Parts can disappear and resize in animation. I'll grant you that only Takara and the Chinese 3rd party guys are able to make sufficiently-complex robot toys with perfect transformation, but that's different from concept design, which is very easy for robots (the template and key features are there) and very difficult for spaceships (no pre-determined template and features). It's hard to make an original, eye-catching spaceship that's not boring and plain or junky and overdesigned.
Anime is basically just the Japanese word for animation and westerners use it to differentiate Japanese animation from others.
I'm pretty sure that they call western shows anime as well, but he wouldn't know.
I do know that. Most of the "anime" on Japanese TV channels are Western cartoons like Spongebob.
Not all anime is for pedophiles, and you watch/recently used to watch anime so even if you think it is then you're just telling on yourself.
Anime can have pedophilic dogwhistles even if the fans aren't always pedos. Null talks about how Grave of the Fireflies is a pedo movie because the little girl has a UTI and constantly has to pee, yet most people who watch it don't care about that. Many Gundam fans don't care about/actively dislike the numerous age gap relationships and stuff like Puru, the Kira/Flay sex scene, and the 00 bridge crew, yet there are enough who do enjoy that stuff and now the new stuff is lolicon garbage like G-Cucks, which has almost nothing to appeal to sci-fi fans. Gundam built a fanbase like that through those early dogwhistles, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. The stereotypical anime character style in general is a result of lolicon; it was developed for loli hentai in the late 70s to exaggerate making characters look as young as possible, since cartoon porn always exaggerates things. 70s/certain early 80s anime looks so different from all other anime, while many mid-80s anime characters wouldn't look out of place today, because mainstream anime was taken over by lolicons in the 80s and now all anime uses that lolicon art style. Urusei Yatsura was the first anime to use that artstyle, and Lum was called a loli when that came out. The idol and romance elements in Macross were pandering to the lolicon crowd; Minmay looks 6 years old and Hikaru looks 8. Even toku is tainted for me now since Kamen Rider Den-O had an episode where the monsters were leaking a clear white fluid and it ended up on a woman's neck; I don't need to see a very specific Japanese porn fetish in a children's superhero show.
Because he's probably a self-hating weeb and seems to be a liberal on top of it.
I am liberal, and I do hate myself for having ever been into anime and I always had guilt and shame as long as I liked anime, despite avoiding and ignoring the degenerate stuff. You should hate yourself and be ashamed if you're a weeb; that's your conscience speaking out trying to save you because you know it's wrong yet you can't or won't stop.
It's in the culture now in the same way as the "kawaii" culture is in japan, but you wouldn't shame me for liking any western animation. What western animation do you like?
Loli trash anime is degenerate and he's right to condemn it, but he downplays complaints about literal LGBT propaganda in western cartoons because he seems okay with it.
I'm not okay with that. Children's cartoons shouldn't have any romance at all, but Western animation isn't overrun with LGBT stuff like every anime nowadays uses the lolicon pedo art style. There's a reason online cartoon fans hate/ignore stuff actually for kids, like Teen Titans Go and modern Spongebob, while praising Steven Universe and modern She-Ra and Owl House made for 14-year-old Tumblrites to high heaven. Also, by the way, I would shame you for liking those kinds of cartoons (as well as anything else with a massively degen fanbase, like Friendship is Magic and Bluey).
What delineates porn and nuanced, reserved and respectful sexual themes to you? How much skin can you show? Whats the limit for violence? Every adult movie has to have a fucking sex scene now but I wouldn't call the Minecraft movie porn because it's Hollywood
@Space Police Before I disagreed with you, but now I realize how wrong I was. In fact, I would actually extend that to any anthropomorphic character ever made. Even if it looks like Warner Bros and not furry porn, it's still clearly pornographic and appeals to furries. Anything anthro made after the internet should be banned

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Ideally there would be no sexual content at all. People don't think superhero comic geeks are weird coomers like weebs because the characters are mostly adults of some definition and clearly look like it. On top of that, the art style is realistic, and realistically-drawn humans are not necessarily sexual; it's not a particular fetish style. Same goes for live action movies and anthro characters in general.
He makes shit up, and convienently forgets that all anime isn't moe high school creep shit for weird adults, but there's shonen and pokemon and magical girl stuff, that has child fans.
That's not true of anime either, both anime and western animation are diverse enough that you can avoid all that shit. I do think degenerate shit is more common in anime though.
Every anime and every anime genre has moe pedo stuff due to the artstyle alone. Dragon Ball has Bulma constantly being harassed by Roshi. Naruto has that pink haired girl and sexy no jutsu, and One Piece and MHA have tons of weird sexual stuff. All the Baki characters have baby faces on the muscular bodies and homosexual rape jokes. Pokemon has has Misty designed as "eye candy" for creepy men. Every single magical girl show that's not Sally the Witch is moe creep stuff; 50% of the Precure fanbase is grown men.
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This argument has gone on and on and is getting really autistic, so I'll just say that you need to look at this objectively and dispassionately. Most of your arguments are either personal attacks, whataboutism, or false equivalencies because you know deep down I'm right, so you can't do anything but attack me, throw smoke bombs to distract me, and rationalize rationalize rationalize. Ignorance is bliss, and these facts can be uncomfortable, but it's always better to be informed, rational, and knowledgable than ignorant.
 
Children's cartoons shouldn't have any romance at all
Ideally there would be no sexual content at all
This is what I was trying to get from you. I don't really care that you don't like anime, or even that most anime IS weird garbage, it's that the reason you don't like anime is you can't think for a second about sex or romance because you are mentally stunted and asexual, so you force yourself to like baby shit, and think everyone else either is or should be like you. Not everything sex is going to be masturbated over
 
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it's that the reason you don't like anime is you can't think for a second about sex or romance because you are mentally stunted and asexual, so you force yourself to like baby shit, and think everyone else either is or should be like you.
These statements don't prove that. It was a discussion about reasons anime is bad, and degeneracy is a big reason, so degeneracy was going to be discussed.
 
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Even toku is tainted for me now since Kamen Rider Den-O had an episode where the monsters were leaking a clear white fluid and it ended up on a woman's neck; I don't need to see a very specific Japanese porn fetish in a children's superhero show.
Neoteny and weird sex shit like this has been in Japan for literal centuries, I wouldn't mess with really anything Japanese at that point. It's what I hate about Japan the most
 
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I'm pretty sure that they call western shows anime as well, but he wouldn't know. He pretends to be an expert but provides 0 proof or showing of knowledge of Japan at all. He makes shit up, and convienently forgets that all anime isn't moe high school creep shit for weird adults, but there's shonen and pokemon and magical girl stuff, that has child fans. Apparently Pokemon is the largest media franchise ever, but 100% of the fans are made up of child predators, and the japs prefer our SUPERIOR NON-PEDOPHILIC CULTURE and anyone there who likes animation in-house is an untouchable
He literally made this argument about Pokemon lol

Because anime is made by/for otaku, and otaku are hated in Japan for being weird creeps? Anime is actively disliked by anyone anywhere who's not a retarded otaku; it's childish tripe that losers pass off as really deep and smart and well-written to cope (which you can do with anything, by the way, as long as your standards are low enough and you're stupid enough).

I don't. I played Mario Kart and Sonic a couple of summers ago for nostalgia, and I played an SRW six months ago, and that's it. Those were special exceptions; video games give me a headache and always leave me unsatisfied, so I avoid them.
So you do, just not often, and you used to. Thanks for proving my point. Also, that's an anecdote which doesn't disprove what I said.

I'll grant you that, but minds can change. When you've seen a certain amount of anime and see the same anime multiple times, the flaws become more and more difficult to ignore, and you realize it's really not that good.
But now you're just arguing that it's "really not that good", do you see how quickly you dropped the "anime is for pedophiles" line of argumentation the moment you were implicated?

Transforming robots never have accurately-animated transformations.
Okay, to be fair, I never actually watched the animation frame-by-frame so maybe that's true. It would make sense to do that, if only to save on time and effort.

Most of the "anime" on Japanese TV channels are Western cartoons like Spongebob
You ever gonna cite a source for any of your claims or...?

Null talks about how Grave of the Fireflies is a pedo movie because the little girl has a UTI and constantly has to pee, yet most people who watch it don't care about that.
Never saw it, but it depends very heavily on intent and execution, which you can usually glean quite easily by how something is depicted. If it's full of panty shots and stuff it's probably sexualization. But Goku pees in Dragon Ball with his dick out and has his ass out at several points, but you're not intended to derive any sexual pleasure from it, so even nudity in and of itself is not inherently sexual.

Urusei Yatsura was the first anime to use that artstyle, and Lum was called a loli when that came out
Anyone thinking Lum--a tall, voluptuous woman--is a loli design is retarded, lying, or projecting.

Even toku is tainted for me now since Kamen Rider Den-O had an episode where the monsters were leaking a clear white fluid and it ended up on a woman's neck; I don't need to see a very specific Japanese porn fetish in a children's superhero show.
Are you sure it wasn't just your mind in the gutter? Do you have a clip?

I am liberal, and I do hate myself for having ever been into anime and I always had guilt and shame as long as I liked anime, despite avoiding and ignoring the degenerate stuff. You should hate yourself and be ashamed if you're a weeb; that's your conscience speaking out trying to save you because you know it's wrong yet you can't or won't stop.
So you can avoid the degenerate stuff by your own admission, only people who want it will watch it. And if you can avoid the degenerate stuff them what's to be ashamed of? What's shameful about liking Death Note or Mobile Fighter: G Gundam exactly?

Children's cartoons shouldn't have any romance at all, but Western animation isn't overrun with LGBT stuff like every anime nowadays uses the lolicon pedo art style.
There's nothing wrong with Peach kissing Mario when he saves her, showing romance in children's media is good, it shows them how to treat each other and establishes proper relations between the sexes with a positive example. That's entirely different than inappropriate material or propaganda. And you sound schizophrenic, an art style can't be pedo.

Also, by the way, I would shame you for liking those kinds of cartoons (as well as anything else with a massively degen fanbase, like Friendship is Magic and Bluey).
I'd shame myself if I liked MLP :story:

Dragon Ball has Bulma constantly being harassed by Roshi.
Bulma is visually indistinguishable from adults in Dragon Ball, her mother is literally just Bulma with blonde hair, and she acts just like an adult, so for all intents and purposes there's nothing "loli" about her and those types of fans wouldn't be interested in her. Canonical ages are mostly irrelevant, it's design and characterization that are more important. If you get hung up on canonical ages then you're in agreement with the lolifags that 9000 year old vampire girls are okay to sexualize.

For comparison, Goku looks like, behaves like, and is canonically a child, he is treated as one in the series, he is nothing like an adult. Roshi has never perved on child characters, not on Chichi, Bulla, nor Pan, so all the crocodile tears over him are retarded.

Naruto has that pink haired girl and sexy no jutsu
What about that pink haired girl? Her very existence is a problem? Lol. And sexy no jutsu is a joke, it's funny, not gooning material you autist.

Pokemon has has Misty designed as "eye candy" for creepy men.
Incorrect, she was designed to appeal to the target demographic, boys, not men. There's not anything inherently wrong with designing a character the male demographic will find pretty. She's never sexualized either (at least in the first two seasons, I didn't finish the 3rd one nor did I really watch after that), so you're grasping at straws. This is really desperate dude.

This argument has gone on and on and is getting really autistic, so I'll just say that you need to look at this objectively and dispassionately. Most of your arguments are either personal attacks, whataboutism, or false equivalencies because you know deep down I'm right, so you can't do anything but attack me, throw smoke bombs to distract me, and rationalize rationalize rationalize.
I'm being entirely objective, you're just delusional and paranoid of loli lurking in everything, and making dubious claims you can't cite sources for. I'm being logical, you are not.

how is romance degenerate? kids can handle that if the sex part isn't involved.
It can be degenerate even without sex, primarily LGBT shit.
 
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Anyone thinking Lum--a tall, voluptuous woman--is a loli design is retarded, lying, or projecting.
Apparently the eyes are too big, like every Disney animal ever. Just look at this design:
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Isn't this clearly loli cubfur art? shamefur. I've even seen gay shit of fucking Regular Show, obviously anthros are a blight on this society like anime and should be illegal. I've also heard disney artists whacked to drawings of characters they were working on, and those drawings are locked in the disney vault
 
Apparently the eyes are too big, like every Disney animal ever. Just look at this design:
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Isn't this clearly loli cubfur art? shamefur. I've even seen gay shit of fucking Regular Show, obviously anthros are a blight on this society like anime and should be illegal. I've also heard disney artists whacked to drawings of characters they were working on, and those drawings are locked in the disney vault
That's absolutely loli cubfur and is obviously designed to be gooned to, which is why she's covered up head to toe and does nothing sexual in the movie (probably, I never watched it), it totally would be in no way projection to assert that.
 
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That's absolutely loli cubfur and is obviously designed to be gooned to, which is why she's covered up head to toe and does nothing sexual in the movie (probably, I never watched it), it totally would be in no way projection to assert that.
I'm being sarcastic
 
The thing is that anime in general is made for those who are impressionable enough to buy merch later on
because that's how they make their money. Shounen anime is like superhero cartoons in the west, where as
degenerate trash anime (isekai, highschool power fantasy, harem) is catered to degenerates who will buy the figurines
of their favorite "wives" and blu-rays for the uncensored softcore porn.

The writing isn't even on their list, because that's not what brings the profit.
Yeah, I've come to realize that most of my favorite animes were passion projects and exceptions which proved the rule. So much of popular anime is driven by merchandizing slop and coomerism. It's dumb isekai shit or has the same fourth wall breaking, obnoxious quips, and other nonsense that make Marvel movies so annoying. The idea that it's a refuge from the shit that ruined western media is cope because the same market forces are acting on both media landscapes, with beancounters fucking up any potential for a good story in two different but parallel ways.
 
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Also defending media institutions like marvel and lego is prime soyjak manchild material, and I think you would know about that.
freud figured this guy ouy back in the 19th century it's litteraly nothing but projection from the toy isle predator
All the Baki characters have baby faces on the muscular bodies
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are the baby faces in the room with us right now
 
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