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The idea that there is a lack of skilled workers in America is silly. Most White male gamers could be trained in a technical cert in months. There could be 10 million more machine operators in 3 months if the powers-that-be wanted. If WW3 started with China and we needed maximum drone production, every basement gamer would be certified and working a job in the supply chain.

If you want more engineers (mechanical, chemical, electrical, etc) just give every gamer the equivalent of an IQ test and offer a free accelerated degree if you're smart enough. Cut out all the "general education" and liberal arts requirements (or make them interesting; like a good Ancient Rome podcast). Tailor the learning to look like a tech-tree unlocked by tangible progress. Let them grind a skillset by repeatedly failing (this is how gamers get better at games). Don't have artificial semesters or beaurocracy. You'd have 1 million more engineers in a year or two.

This depressing slump always happens at the end of the 80 year cycle. When the geriatrics loose their lich-like grip there will be a tipping point and a chain reaction of events will bring about an "economic miracle". Mostly, the "miracle" is getting all the gatekeepers out of they way. And being willing to radically change systems while using the newest technology.
 
Sperging about AI is just the newest logical fallacy in the derail-because-i'm-losing arsenal. Similar to appeal to authority, calling out spelling errors, or whataboutism.
No, he has a valid point about pasting in AI answers. They're not reliable and will make something up if they don't know. An article or verified list of "largest X in the world" is fine but "my AI says this list is right," is something people are correct to be sceptical of. I had one get some maths wrong the other day.
 
Most White male gamers could be trained in a technical cert in months. There could be 10 million more machine operators in 3 months if the powers-that-be wanted.
How do you get them to quit whatever it is they're doing now to feed themselves? There simply aren't millions of Americans waiting for that call to go work at a factory and there won't be until the economy becomes catastrophically worse.
 
Grok can't call someone a niggerfaggot.
Can google?
What is often the case is that when they get first exposure to a Falun Gong outlet, they're introduced to a ton of information that they otherwise weren't privy to beforehand. Unless you're into pseudo-intellectual/semi-informational content like Wendover Productions or Polymatter or a short-form geopolitical podcast like The History of Everything, most of average Westerners wouldn't know about tofu dreg construction, the proliferation of debt to fuel real estate and infrastructure developments, Han Chinese boomers acting like complete jerks overseas, human trafficking being omnipresent, etc.
Right, so all of that stuff is good to know, and once you’re introduced to the idea, you can do your fact checking to your hearts content, but the great firewall is the main impediment

Wendover is cool. I wish they published more often. I also like Task and Purpose, and while Cappy was a relatable dude, maybe it’s not the worst thing that he’s moving on after getting too personally involved with Ukraine

As far as organ harvesting, I’m pretty sure China still does it. They just performed a simultaneous heart AND liver transplant for some pop singer and it’s a good question to ask, how they came up with a matching heart and liver at the same time after such a short wait. Probably because when they’re executing someone anyways, they harvest the organs. So I’m not really bothered by the Falun Gong dudes feeling sorry for themselves and most of it has a factual predicate with maybe some rhetorical weight pushing this way or that, which is standard for 100% of western media
 
No, he has a valid point about pasting in AI answers. They're not reliable and will make something up if they don't know. An article or verified list of "largest X in the world" is fine but "my AI says this list is right," is something people are correct to be sceptical of. I had one get some maths wrong the other day.
Is it a better idea to do whatever you want to come up with an alternative list and say “whoa haha buddy, you’re wrong and this is how,” or to make an argument that IS a logical fallacy because in this case my list is correct, so you’re attacking a strawman hypothetical?
How do you get them to quit whatever it is they're doing now to feed themselves? There simply aren't millions of Americans waiting for that call to go work at a factory and there won't be until the economy becomes catastrophically worse.
Tell them that the median wage in manufacturing is $8/hour higher than retail, gives you the same shift consistently, plus paid vacation and employer sponsored healthcare, and a lot of the time you can sit down while you do it
 
I'm not contesting that, I'm just saying we're getting a lot of people lately who treat AI like it's an infallible tool that'll give them all the info they'll need or even let it write their posts. At that point why even have people post? We can just have grok run all our accounts.
AI scarry and will take your pencil neck job, got it
 
Most White male gamers could be trained in a technical cert in months.
Most gamers in general are incapable of getting through the day without saying the nigger word.

Also, we tried this "train the country to have jobs" thing before. It was called the Great Society program and it failed. It's a chicken or the egg argument. Which comes first: the trained workers or the jobs?

I do agree that the economy will likely improve when the Boomers finally croak and stop holding onto every single upper-management position until they're 90 years old.
 
Tell them that the median wage in manufacturing is $8/hour higher than retail, gives you the same shift consistently, plus paid vacation and employer sponsored healthcare, and a lot of the time you can sit down while you do it
The plan is to lie to them?

None of those things can be true if reshoring is to make economic sense.
 
The plan is to lie to them?

None of those things can be true if reshoring is to make economic sense.
Median manufacturing wage in the US is $24/hour, almost exactly the overall median wage. The median retail wage is $16/ hour

retail further fucks with people by giving people 32, 35 hour schedules, whatever is necessary to call it part time. In a lot of cases like fast food, you have to be a manager to get full time but then it comes as salary, so you’ll be expected to work 50+ hours a week

Why do you hate factories

@Hey Johnny Bravo my place right now hires fat retards off the street for $21/hour and full benefits, then makes me train them from scratch.

Sure they’ll be useless for a couple years, but well not entirely. I’ll just have to fix it when they’re making scrap
 
Could someone please ask BigJoey to refund the $1.50 he earned from yesterday's CCP shilling? I'm guessing the Chinese government is gonna need every penny they can get.
If I’ve learned anything about Chinese people from being online is that they don’t have to be paid to actively want to spread propaganda and will actively break the law (about vpns) to do so regardless of the consequences.
 
Because factories = sweatshops in their eyes. That's sadly the image they carry, despite it not being the case for a while.
I literally do most of my posting on here while I’m on the clock

Not today, but Monday through Friday. You’re not like, punitively oppressed to make it more sweaty.. it’s 2025. People watch movies on their tablet and shit while their machine is running
 
The idea that there is a lack of skilled workers in America is silly. Most White male gamers could be trained in a technical cert in months. There could be 10 million more machine operators in 3 months if the powers-that-be wanted. If WW3 started with China and we needed maximum drone production, every basement gamer would be certified and working a job in the supply chain.

If you want more engineers (mechanical, chemical, electrical, etc) just give every gamer the equivalent of an IQ test and offer a free accelerated degree if you're smart enough. Cut out all the "general education" and liberal arts requirements (or make them interesting; like a good Ancient Rome podcast). Tailor the learning to look like a tech-tree unlocked by tangible progress. Let them grind a skillset by repeatedly failing (this is how gamers get better at games). Don't have artificial semesters or beaurocracy. You'd have 1 million more engineers in a year or two.

This depressing slump always happens at the end of the 80 year cycle. When the geriatrics loose their lich-like grip there will be a tipping point and a chain reaction of events will bring about an "economic miracle". Mostly, the "miracle" is getting all the gatekeepers out of they way. And being willing to radically change systems while using the newest technology.
Higher education in the trades or technology used to be a safety net against illegals and other border-jumpers, most of whom only have the bare minimum of education. They can't steal your job if your job took a decade of study and apprenticeship IN the country. You can laugh at all the minimum-wage bozos who lose their jobs to foreign peasants, while your job is secure because you worked your ass off and your boss needs you for your degrees/skills.

However, with Elon's plan to import tons of Indians, that could be put to risk, since many Indians DO have degrees in trade and other techno sectors. There's a reason why half the call help centers are manned by Indians. And the cheap wages these Indians ask for cannot be matched by American gamers who would usually ask for a living wage to pay for their home, their food, and their games. No American wants to be a wage-slave, least of all gamers who want to enjoy the good things in life.
 
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