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Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me
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I've been wondering about a thing regarding range. Are the ranges given by the manufacturers from 100% charge to 0%, i.e. absolute maximum range?
Because at the same time they tell you to keep the charge between 80% and 20%, which kinda sorta drops your capacity by 40%, so if I wanted a car to regularly go 400 km on one charge I'd either have to buy one with significantly more range than nominally 400km, or expect increased battery degradation.
Because at the same time they tell you to keep the charge between 80% and 20%, which kinda sorta drops your capacity by 40%, so if I wanted a car to regularly go 400 km on one charge I'd either have to buy one with significantly more range than nominally 400km, or expect increased battery degradation.
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2 seconds from everything is fine to impacting the barrier. What an amazing system
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Yes.
My EV has a 450mi 0-100% range, but you'll never see that outside of tests. For day to day I'll use 20-80% so 270 miles. That would work for your hypothetical 400km trip. On planned trips I'll charge to 100% at home which gets me to 360miles to my first stop. But when using fast chargers you don't want to charge to 100% as it will take as long to go from 80% to 100% as from 20% to 80% as they slow down significantly. The other reason for the 20% bottom buffer besides battery degragation is if a charger is out of service or full and you don't want to wait. Chargers in some areas tend to be non functional due to the local wildlife.
I waited until they had long range options as going from a 600mile gas tank with stations every exit to 450miles with stations every major city still causes some consternation, but not nearly as much as 300miles.
I think there's still a few spots here in the Pacific Northwest I couldn't get to and back without a generator in the back but they're significantly fewer these days. And it was much worse a year ago before Tesla opened their network, doing some planning out here shows many of the faster chargers are still Tesla.
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Onvo President Alan Ai has resigned from his position, due to sales failing to meet expectations. / Archive
So again NIO will most likely not make a profit, ever.
So again NIO will most likely not make a profit, ever.
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Neta's financial troubles continue to worsen, as dealers are beginning to protest at their factory, demanding for vehicles that were paid for but not delivered, and compensation for losses. / Archive
Is the CCP trying to keep these smaller EV startups afloat (because them failing would make the country look bad), or is Neta trying to burn every possible bridge it can financially to delay their inevitable bankruptcy as much as they can?
MG is also planning to debut their new SUV called the Cyber X, although I do wonder if Elon is going to have an aneurysm when the reveal does happen. / Archive
Is the CCP trying to keep these smaller EV startups afloat (because them failing would make the country look bad), or is Neta trying to burn every possible bridge it can financially to delay their inevitable bankruptcy as much as they can?
MG is also planning to debut their new SUV called the Cyber X, although I do wonder if Elon is going to have an aneurysm when the reveal does happen. / Archive
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I'm having one right now. That fat-arsed range rover knock-off is NOT an MG.
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Indeed. I used to own one of the last MG's. The TF, which I loved as a 'my first sportscar'
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Chinese ride-sharing company DiDi (insert dick jokes here) wants to bring 100k Chinese EVs to Mexico by 2030 for ride-share use. / Archive
And Chinese auto analysis said that it's unlikely that China's top 3 EV startups (Li Auto, Xpeng, NIO) will all still be running as independent companies in 3 years. / Archive
NIO is the most likely to implode of the 3, since IIRC, they have yet to make a profit. Li Auto seems to have the best chances of surviving, given that all of these companies still pale compared to BYD's sales numbers.
And Chinese auto analysis said that it's unlikely that China's top 3 EV startups (Li Auto, Xpeng, NIO) will all still be running as independent companies in 3 years. / Archive
NIO is the most likely to implode of the 3, since IIRC, they have yet to make a profit. Li Auto seems to have the best chances of surviving, given that all of these companies still pale compared to BYD's sales numbers.
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China's MIIT has implemented tighter restrictions with automated driving features in cars. / Archive
Public beta tests of features and remote parking and car summoning features are banned, automakers are to avoid using marketing terms such as "automated driving", over-the-air updates have been more restricted to reduce the frequency of them, and hands-on-the-wheel is to be strictly enforced when using automated driving assists. Given how reckless Chinese drivers are, why those laws weren't implemented sooner is puzzling.
The MIIT will also be implementing safety standards for EV batteries which will take effect on July 2026, saying that EV battery fires are not allowed to happen. / Archive
It's already very
that EV battery fires can be prevented completely due the current nature of them, but how will the law be handled in the case of situations like a severe car crash, or outside vandalism or outside fire source igniting an EV battery?
Public beta tests of features and remote parking and car summoning features are banned, automakers are to avoid using marketing terms such as "automated driving", over-the-air updates have been more restricted to reduce the frequency of them, and hands-on-the-wheel is to be strictly enforced when using automated driving assists. Given how reckless Chinese drivers are, why those laws weren't implemented sooner is puzzling.
The MIIT will also be implementing safety standards for EV batteries which will take effect on July 2026, saying that EV battery fires are not allowed to happen. / Archive
It's already very
that EV battery fires can be prevented completely due the current nature of them, but how will the law be handled in the case of situations like a severe car crash, or outside vandalism or outside fire source igniting an EV battery?
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China has a lot of interest in keeping as many Chinese brands alive for now:
- Most westerners don't know which random brand is Chinese or not. The more you have, the easier people get confused.
- Every major CCP controlled car is a perfect opportunity for data collection, injecting proxies, on the fly hacking, etc
- The more the market gets dissolved by many chinese brands with sufficient quality and low prices, the likelier a Chinese product gets picked.
- Most western electric cars are extremely expensive with huge problems
- Tesla's build quality is notoriously garbage
- VAG is basically repackaging and rebranding the ID.3 and ID.4 way too much (Cupra, Skoda, Audi, Ford's Capri/Explorer), while at the same time it's notorious for having THE worst software in the industry.
- Merc/BMW took the opportunity to double their prices for no reason, while they're barely offering anything interesting, and also have major software issues
- Ford is just a meme at this point, what the fuck is the point of a mustang that can't hit max power for more than a few seconds?
- Stellantis... is stellantis. Selling the Fiat 500e without being ashamed of it says enough.
- Toyota/Subaru hate BEVs, and the BZ4x/Solterra are a steaming dump on whomever is retarded enough to buy one.
- Smaller brands (Smart,Volvo,MG etc) with cheap BEVs are actually just rebranded gookmobiles.
And this is working, Tesla is dying, VAG is dying, Merc/BMW are shifting away from EVs, and people are shifting to buying chinese, as it's available, cheap, and works sufficiently.
With a bit of hope, and the EU probably banning gas cars at some point (these faggots will ban anything), if China can keep this up until the ban goes into effect, they may control the entire European market with barely any competition.
This is China, nobody's gonna follow that anyway.The MIIT will also be implementing safety standards for EV batteries which will take effect on July 2026, saying that EV battery fires are not allowed to happen. / Archive
It's already very
A lot of the fires happen due to Lithium batteries going into thermal runaway (self-sustaining combustion, around 80°C) very easily. Silicon-Carbon Lithium batteries already raise the temperature required to enter thermal runaway, and with Sodium-Ion batteries, the thermal runaway point may raise even further, beyond 120°C.
The only way you could reasonably prevent fires entirely would be to make the casing around the batteries be air-tight, oxygen-free, and hold up beyond 250°C, which would add weight, further reduce the range, and increase material costs.
The only way you could reasonably prevent fires entirely would be to make the casing around the batteries be air-tight, oxygen-free, and hold up beyond 250°C, which would add weight, further reduce the range, and increase material costs.
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And the other brands have their issues too:
- Hyundai/Kia have been having ECCU issues with the Ioniq5/6/EV6.
- Vinfast shit the bed from the start, and although the 2024 VF8 was better, the 2023 one was so awful that it was on Yugo or Daewoo-levels of awful.
- IIRC, GM is also having issues with selling their EVs, as in people aren't buying them.
- Fisker went bankrupt AGAIN, and yet people were stupid enough to buy Oceans from them.
- Nissan is on the verge of bankruptcy, so they may not even able to make crappy EVs in the future.
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shouldve kept that american ceo they had running the company instead of ousting him for a person who did the exact same shit they removed him for (or something, been a while since i heard an update on that story)
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Saw inside of Tesla truck: the only instrumentation is a touchscreen? 
When has Nissan had an American CEO? I can only think that you would be referring to Ghosn who is Brazil-French.
Their current CEO is Mexican.
Vinfast is such a weird brand. They've been ousted as basically rebranding Wuling made products for their smaller cars. I've ridden in some before in Vietnam and sure they seemed okay as mandate riders hates, but the lack of quality was very apparent.
Not as bad as the current Mini EVs that are being made by GWM though. How BMW thought they could get away with charging a premium for them when they are being assembled currently at the same place as the GWM Ora I will never know. And fuck them for following the path of putting climate control via touch screen or voice.
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thought he was american for some reason and i dont know where that came from, so thats on me, but that is the guy
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The quality control issues with VinFast cars are so apparent that not even the Vietnamese trust them.
And a BYD EV bus began smoking and caught fire, and Xiaomi cars are still getting into car crashes, either when using the autonomous driving feature, or reckless drivers:
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Tesla is being sued for using algorithms to drive the odometers instead of mechanical means and thus inflating the odometers to get out of warranty coverage faster. Big if true.
Fae Supremacist
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Everything's computer.Saw inside of Tesla truck: the only instrumentation is a touchscreen?
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Someone should make an EV where everything except the power delivery/engine systems are analog. Manual gear shift and clutch, mechanical steering, the power encoder just treats the gas pedal as a simple 0-100% jog, and the brakes are all old analog design mechanical-only parts. Basically, take an old 1980s truck, remove the fuel system and combustion motor, replace it with a battery/charger system and electrical motor and retrofit all the other analog/mechanical parts to work with it.