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MDS sounds like some disease like multiple sclerosis.
Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me
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Huawei has been accused of sending a man to try to stop a Luxeed S7 owner from complaining online about the car. / Archive
So it's no different from when Vinfast sent the Vietnamese police after people that complained about their cars.
Also, during China's annual 315 Gala, which is a Government-ran (?) show that showcases and shames companies that violate consumer's rights (although it's only for lipservice, and not to genuinely help people out), there were no car companies that were shamed during this year's show.
Car and Driver did this "clearly not paid" review of the MG Cyberster, and their criticisms of the braking and steering mirrored the same complaints that MotorTrend made when they test drove the car. The car is also heavy for a roadster, at ~4400 lbs, which is heavier than the Tesla Model 3, and the Model 3 is cheaper too. ($56k for the Performance trim, compared to Cyberster GT costing $77k) The only saving grace of the Cyberster is that it won't get defaced and burned by anti-Elmo Zealots, unless either it self-immolates as most other Chinese EVs tend to do, or somehow MG's CEO makes a statement that makes those said anti-Elmo Zealots seethe so hard (which is unlikely since MG is Chinese-owned) that they go after MGs in mass out of spite.
So it's no different from when Vinfast sent the Vietnamese police after people that complained about their cars.
Also, during China's annual 315 Gala, which is a Government-ran (?) show that showcases and shames companies that violate consumer's rights (although it's only for lipservice, and not to genuinely help people out), there were no car companies that were shamed during this year's show.
Car and Driver did this "clearly not paid" review of the MG Cyberster, and their criticisms of the braking and steering mirrored the same complaints that MotorTrend made when they test drove the car. The car is also heavy for a roadster, at ~4400 lbs, which is heavier than the Tesla Model 3, and the Model 3 is cheaper too. ($56k for the Performance trim, compared to Cyberster GT costing $77k) The only saving grace of the Cyberster is that it won't get defaced and burned by anti-Elmo Zealots, unless either it self-immolates as most other Chinese EVs tend to do, or somehow MG's CEO makes a statement that makes those said anti-Elmo Zealots seethe so hard (which is unlikely since MG is Chinese-owned) that they go after MGs in mass out of spite.
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Please don't call it an MG...I used to own one of the last MGs (MG-TF 160), and seeing what's happened to the company is a fucking disgrace. The same thing is happening with Lotus (also an ex-Lotus owner)
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Or a type of drug or hallucinogen that you'd take at a rave or nightclub.
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Chinese EVs are not more advanced than Western ones and anyone saying otherwise is either a Wumao or a naive fool tricked by one. They're all literal Tesla clones because Musk is an idiot who set up a factory there.
They're also not really any cheaper when you compare Chinese prices to Chinese prices. A BYD Seal starts at ¥175,800 ($24,250) and a Tesla Model 3 starts at ¥235,500 ($32,486), but the Tesla has an extra 123 km of range on the Chinese test cycle:
A far cry from the $10,000 car that you hear the 50 Cent Army tout.
Tesla also obviously doesn't get the vertical integration or state support that BYD does.
The BYD Seal's Chinese starting price is the exact same (using direct currency conversion) as a base Honda Civic in the US:
But since the "$32,486" Tesla Model 3 costs $42,490 in the US, the "$24,250" BYD Seal would start at $31,717 without extra subsidies from the CCP, significantly more than a similar ICE car like the Honda Civic. The discrepancy is due to China artificially lowering their value of their currency for exports.
Contrary to what Chinese shills say, they have not managed to discover some secret to make cars cheaper than the rest of the world and other automakers would not go bankrupt if they were allowed to compete on a level playing field (which will never happen thanks to the CCP).
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To be fair, there really isn't any sort of level playing field. Every home country will try and make their domestic product more sellable. The USA does the same thing by subsidizing the aviation industry and by bailing out GM about a decade ago. Big industries that have a major role in industry eventually get some sort of government intervention in both the east and west. The now burgeoning space industry has heavy involvement with NASA aka govt grants from the likes of Ingenious Machines and Carnegie Mellon with their recent payloads.
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looks like the chink Panamera knock off isn't as good as they say it is.
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The dumb fuck chink seems to be bitching more about the cost of electricity and charging stations rather than the car, and the cost of maintaining a 1500hp car.
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Also an electric vehicle (like any car but worst of with electric) won't have much range if driven aggressively and with all systems on. That fortunate son looking character mightn't grasp that.
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He's also complaining that it doesn't get anywhere close to its advertised range.
The cost of charging is interesting though. The public EV chargers in the video have congestion pricing which makes the price of electricity higher than the price of gas. Since everyone in China but the ultra-wealthy live in massive apartment towers, most people can't charge at home and have no choice except to use public chargers.
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Don't EVs also depreciate like a fucking rock? 5 year old civic still has something like 2/3rd the value.
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NIO's CEO blamed public sentiment for the Onvo brand's 30-40% decline in sales. / Archive But then again, since NIO has always had trouble making a profit (I don't remember if they ever did), they were probably screwed whether the Onvo brand is a thing or not.
Neta has secured $215 million in loans from Thailand as a last-ditch effort to keep the company going, (Archive) but since the brand is literally DEAD in China, all this is doing is delaying their inevitable demise.
Neta has secured $215 million in loans from Thailand as a last-ditch effort to keep the company going, (Archive) but since the brand is literally DEAD in China, all this is doing is delaying their inevitable demise.
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Faguar. Holy shit, this looks ugly as hell.
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Well, they said they wanted to be the world's most homosexual car brand...and succeeded.
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Some Xiaomi SU7 owners have reported that their insurance renewal premiums increased, and some even reported that that their insurance companies would refuse to renew the insurance on the car. / Archive
I'm not sure how much of it has to do with Xiaomi SU7 Ultras crashing on public roads and on the track.
BYD's luxury brand, YangWang, is now selling the U7 Sedan, but the dimensions of it are stupid and bulky as heck. Its length of 207 in is almost as long as a Mercedes-Benz S-Class, and its weight of 6800 lbs is almost 2000 lbs more than an ICE S-Class, and 1200 lbs more than the PHEV S-Class.
I'm not sure how much of it has to do with Xiaomi SU7 Ultras crashing on public roads and on the track.
BYD's luxury brand, YangWang, is now selling the U7 Sedan, but the dimensions of it are stupid and bulky as heck. Its length of 207 in is almost as long as a Mercedes-Benz S-Class, and its weight of 6800 lbs is almost 2000 lbs more than an ICE S-Class, and 1200 lbs more than the PHEV S-Class.
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Why do these company's design their cars to look like shittly rendered 3d models?
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In the first fatal Xiaomi SU7 crash, three female college students died when it crashed into a concrete barrier, it bursted into flames, and they couldn't get out of the car so they turned into charbroil. / Archive
The crash appears to be both the fault of the driver and Xiaomi. The driver was overconfident of the car's autopilot feature and intervened too late to stop before hitting or move out of the way of the barrier, and Xiaomi is at fault for providing the said overconfidence with the car's autopilot feature, as well as using a button instead of door handles.
The emergency feature to mechanically open the door also isn't straight-forward, similar to Teslas:
The crash appears to be both the fault of the driver and Xiaomi. The driver was overconfident of the car's autopilot feature and intervened too late to stop before hitting or move out of the way of the barrier, and Xiaomi is at fault for providing the said overconfidence with the car's autopilot feature, as well as using a button instead of door handles.
The emergency feature to mechanically open the door also isn't straight-forward, similar to Teslas:
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Feel the need to point out on all the teslas I've been in this is all you have to do to open manually which is not that hard or counterintuitive, so what the chinks have is apparently far worse
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Did they ever fix the whole "you can't drive while plugged in" thing? That seems like a really bad idea considering all the vandalism and violence happening. Sitting duck