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I get it man, you're hungry for a argument. If you choose to read my argument as "diversity is le good!" then go ahead champ. You box those shadows, I won't stop you.
Your argument is 'browns get hired over whites because they work harder' which is false.

It's not boxing shadows to tell you that you're wrong. I'm also tired of having exchanges where I prove this to not be the case and have folks like you waddle off like it's just bullshit as you're clearly posturing to do here, which proves my point that it wouldn't be worth the effort to attempt it here.
 
To me, that's the problem. During the transition from Obama to Trump, politics went from being something only the grown-ups followed, to becoming a part of pop-culture. The 2016 election season spawned so many memes, and generated so much discussion online, that the Internet never really went back. And everyone in the country put the battle for political ideals at the center of their thinking, and at the center of their creative works, both corporate and independent.

There are just some people who are not cut out for politics, and really never should've gotten into them to begin with.
Gamergate and obamafags attempted color revolution in the United States was why the left mobilized. The teenage 4channers were a big enough threat to bring the hammer and Trump winning made them basically declare a soft civil war. The right who didn't see it happening in the shadows were forced to become political because a man in a dress was trying to molest their daughters and get them fired from their jobs.

It is better that it played out this way. That the new world order fell only after mobilizing their full force and having every single plan and machinations fail in an era where it will be documented in history forever. Had Trump won using covert tactics in the shadows they might think they still had a chance instead of being seen as the loosers.

I suspect the world will naturally clean itself up over the next generation or two now that God was forced to step in and smite the unholy assholes down once and for all.
 
I mean there's different avenues for the CCP to pursue, sure. I think the real money is just that there's some trade deal made in the next month or so, both parties walk away acting as if neither lost and what we're left with is just the same shit as before. Trump wants a 'victory' that people aren't going to flay him for and even if it just results in a net effect of slight tariffs on China and a slight lightening of their tariffs on the U.S., the people who are loyalists will defend it to the death as owning China just as I'm sure Xi's fanbase - assuming he has one - will defend his actions in turn.

Still the possibility exists for expansionist action, again, given Trump's anti-war posturing to win the election and the ongoing and obvious path being laid down for him to go to war with Iran on Israel's behalf. It'd be the right time and the right excuse for it if they really ever wanted it. Though as a certain person pointed out they're going for the 'cultural' rather than 'domination' victory with Taiwan it would seem, and they've made strides in that, so who knows.

I just wanted to point out that it is a real possibility and if it kicks off it is not because of genuine desperation.
I’d say your analysis tends towards the cynical interpretation of events, but can’t hold that against anyone. But while China still definitely has their military hardware today, having it in five to ten to twenty years will cost a shit ton of maintenance, and I think if our current trade posture continues, we’ll be closing future opportunities off.

That’s a big deal, because time has been on China’s side up to this trade war. I think the perception of that window, where China has built a zerg fleet with poor rust proofing at a time where they have gold reserves and 30 million excess males from the one child policy all tend to suggest that if they are ever going to make their move, they should do it BEFORE they collapse

Trump’s also pulling a kind of Paul Revere routine
 
China Uncensored did a video on what an invasion of Taiwan would look like

Based on this article:

China’s got three ways to go at Taiwan: a patient choke, a lightning grab, or full chaos.

The first one is a blockade of the Island. But then China would be sitting ducks for the rest of the world once the calvary comes running in.
The second, china strikes taiwan with missiles and storms the island. And the rest of the world is playing catch up.
The last one is the second option, on steroids. They still storm the island, but also attack Taiwan's allies at the same time. Both physical and cyber attacks. Basically, distract the US, et. al, from coming to Taiwan's aid by causing issues elsewhere.

The last one sounds like pure fiction tbh. It reads like something from a Jack Chick tract. They might do some physically or cyber attacks. But not both at once. The article mentions the possibility of China activating cells it has of nations within the US and elsewhere.

But then again, if they do go with the last option, it could leak out. Ala the Zimmerman telegraph. And then the US would have a reason to rally the rest of the world to sanction China and impose large tariffs on them.

Feels like an invasion of Taiwan would quickly quagmire into the rest of Asia vs China and N. Korea.
Possibly russia as well. Russia owes china a solid.
 
I don't see any white guys picking produce. Most the truckers running ghost codrivers got turbans. Can't speak for other industries but in logistics they want some brown skin that can't speak English that'll thank you for the opportunity to run illegally for .42cpm
I've only ever known of one white field picker (in Oklahoma). He was an illiterate ex-con former meth addict (he was missing half his teeth) that would pick almond trees & lettuce on my friend's grandfather's small farm. I think generally it's one of those jobs people only do if they cannot get any other line of work, on account of being backbreaking and low paying.
 
that's because it's not worth it to pay american wages when you could pay mexican wages instead. that's why we're taking away their ability to do that. white people want high dollar pay for backbreaking sun-beaten labor.
The macroeconomic effect also needs to be emphasized

>Mexican picks produce for $100
>At most he spends the $10 on tacos and beer while living on his cousin's floor
>Sends $90 home to mexico where it's worth shit tons
>Eventually makes its way into the hands of the cartels

>White guy picks produce for $300
>Spends it on rent, local food, gas, etc. It stays in the damn country.
>American businesses thrive

We literally imported a slave class. Any leftist defending this shit is retarded (more than usual)
 
Your argument is 'browns get hired over whites because they work harder' which is false.

It's not boxing shadows to tell you that you're wrong. I'm also tired of having exchanges where I prove this to not be the case and have folks like you waddle off like it's just bullshit as you're clearly posturing to do here, which proves my point that it wouldn't be worth the effort to attempt it here.
I take it you're not in transport. Let me break it down for you.

Most white people won't run ghost drivers because 1: they value their life 2: they respect the law 3: they know it's plain retarded. Pajeet doesn't care. He'll run 18 hours a day because that means he gets paid more. Scumbag megas only care about maximizing loads; that's how they get paid. They'll happily hire some dipshit that'll run 6hr over their legal limit and rake in the cash from them. When they inevitably get caught and fined/jailed, the company throws up their hands, tells them "that's against company policy!", fires them, and flicks through indeed for a new turban to drive their truck.
 
China Uncensored did a video on what an invasion of Taiwan would look like

Based on this article:



The first one is a blockade of the Island. But then China would be sitting ducks for the rest of the world once the calvary comes running in.
The second, china strikes taiwan with missiles and storms the island. And the rest of the world is playing catch up.
The last one is the second option, on steroids. They still storm the island, but also attack Taiwan's allies at the same time. Both physical and cyber attacks. Basically, distract the US, et. al, from coming to Taiwan's aid by causing issues elsewhere.

The last one sounds like pure fiction tbh. It reads like something from a Jack Chick tract. They might do some physically or cyber attacks. But not both at once. The article mentions the possibility of China activating cells it has of nations within the US and elsewhere.

But then again, if they do go with the last option, it could leak out. Ala the Zimmerman telegraph. And then the US would have a reason to rally the rest of the world to sanction China and impose large tariffs on them.


Possibly russia as well. Russia owes china a solid.
I think Russia wants an out. China is pressing them to absorb Chinese exports and has already redrawn maps to claim Russian territory. They really don’t have friends because they fundamentally don’t see the world as containing friends.

Other than that, of course China wouldn’t just blockade. And the US’s main advantage is actually starlink, because it’s the satellite version of the swarm tech everyone was talking about for sixth gen fighters. Hard to take out the US’s communications, and of course we can’t know, but I think they talk to eachother and can perform gps

OH ALSO

We’re changing what the marine corps does. They don’t operate armor battalions like an invasion force anymore, or are in the process of phasing it out. They’re being redesigned into self sufficient missile teams that can be deployed on island and launch shit at targets over the horizon, like our own Houthis
 
And the US’s main advantage is actually starlink, because it’s the satellite version of the swarm tech everyone was talking about for sixth gen fighters. Hard to take out the US’s communications, and of course we can’t know, but I think they talk to eachother and can perform gps
Chinese are quickly catching up on Starlink with their Thousand Sails program. Nothing's off the ground yet but this is an advantage the US won't have for long
 
To me, that's the problem. During the transition from Obama to Trump, politics went from being something only the grown-ups followed, to becoming a part of pop-culture. The 2016 election season spawned so many memes, and generated so much discussion online, that the Internet never really went back. And everyone in the country put the battle for political ideals at the center of their thinking, and at the center of their creative works, both corporate and independent.

There are just some people who are not cut out for politics, and really never should've gotten into them to begin with.
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

I agree the 2016 fucked the internet beyond repair, but the first politician to aggressively shove his penis into culture as part of his strategy was Obama in 2008.
Just one example but a perfect one: https://youtu.be/wKsoXHYICqU

And even though it wasn't a positive everybody in America knew that Bush was the dumb guy who had a book filled with dumb quotes. Every movie and tv show of the 2000s had him being made fun of in some way or another.

Politics has never strictly been for the adults, i would sayin the 90s it was for a brief period but that was mainly just because things were so chill normies couldn't be bothered to give a shit. Ronald Reagan won state and presidential elections by being a movie star, and i can't remember who but there was some president way back in the day who's hair was fawned over by women's magazines.

Music has always been political, dead kennedys, sex pistols, beatles, even the 90s had rage against the machine calling candidates out by name in their gay michael moor directed videos which are admittedly awesome as is the music even if though message is retarded.

Politics matters and it involves ultimate power, which makes it sexy. Normies and retards have always liked it.
 
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

I agree the 2016 fucked the internet beyond repair, but the first politician to aggressively shove his penis into culture as part of his strategy was Obama in 2008.
Just one example but a perfect one: https://youtu.be/wKsoXHYICqU

And even though it wasn't a positive everybody in America knew that Bush was the dumb guy who had a book filled with dumb quotes. Every movie and tv show of the 2000s had him being made fun of in some way or another.

Politics has never strictly been for the adults, i would sayin the 90s it was for a brief period but that was mainly just because things were so chill normies couldn't be bothered to give a shit. Ronald Reagan won state and presidential elections by being a movie star, and i can't remember who but there was some president way back in the day who's hair was fawned over by women's magazines.

Music has always been political, dead kennedys, sex pistols, beatles, even the 90s had rage against the machine calling candidates out by name in their gay michael moor directed videos which are admittedly awesome as is the music even if though message is retarded.

Politics matters and it involves ultimate power, which makes it sexy. Normies and retards have always liked it.
The only good political band is Guns and Roses

Axl spent like almost 30 years to release an album of convoluted nonsensical insanity and created one of art’s greatest double entendres, Chinese Democracy
 
It's a largely dead practice at this point from my understanding but there's really no reason it shouldn't be if lefties are so concerned with "rehabilitation" rather than "punishment".
Agreed. Anyone in jail who both has the ability to be rehabilitated and wants the chance to learn skills that will help them upon release should be afforded the opportunity - whether it's earning a GED/vocational certificate, leather craft, etc. That way, they're both held accountable for their wrongs and learn something that betters themselves for their return to society.

Also, all the Democrats need to do is back someone moderate. Stop the communist shit, stop the identity politics shit, and be at least a little fiscally responsible. That's fucking it.
Political parties in general seem to have periods where either drift towards the political extreme or entertain that bloc more than they should. The Dems seem to have the sunken cost fallacy in appealing to the far left because they've invested so much into their extreme political stance that it seems as if they don't want to abandon it lest they alienate the most vocal and militant of their voting base. Sadly, many of the long-time moderate politicians are getitng too old or too tired of the polar extremes in either party they're not running for reelection and being replaced by less moderate politicians. Worse, the current state of party politics is such that agreeing with an opponent in any way is seen as political treason. As long as both parties have that stance, political moderation will be the exception and not the norm.

-Black woman (is she black or indian? I still haven't gotten confirmation on this) loses to trump
The Dems treat Harris like a chameleon and use whichever race is most beneficial to them at a given moment. It's consistent with their ever-increasing focus on identity politics even though more independent and undecided voters are getting sick and tired of it being used as a wedge issue.
 
2016 fucked the internet beyond repair, but the first politician to aggressively shove his penis into culture as part of his strategy was Obama in 2008.

We're just seeing the evolution of politics. People have always been stupid, its just never been exposed in the medium of the internet so much. In 2008, it was Facebook, Twitter and YouTube that was en vogue with Obama. The more people who got on the Internet the more it became more significant in the political sphere. Look at how legacy media is being phased out by Youtube, streamers and podcasters now. TikTok is how a significant chunk of zoomers are getting their news now.
 
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