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Thanks guys I appreciate it.
Pimozide is the drug.
It hurts knowing theyfabs will be happier than what I can possibly hope to be.
They arent happy. That’s important to see. Their actions are driven by unhappiness and the online hug box prevents any public regret.
Have you had a physical work up? I think I’ve seen some posts of yours talking about abnormal libido - if I were you I’d get your doctor to do some basic tests, perhaps including your hormones.
 
Some good news


“The United Kingdom’s highest court ruled that the legal definition of “woman” excludes trans women, in a case with sweeping consequences for how equality laws are applied.

Britain’s Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the definition of a woman in equality legislation refers to “a biological woman and biological sex,” sparking celebrations outside court among gender-critical campaigners but warnings it was a “worrying” development for transgender people.

The case centered on whether trans women with a gender recognition certificate (GRC) – which offers legal recognition of someone’s female sex – are protected from discrimination as a woman under the nation’s Equality Act 2010.

A group of campaigners in Scotland brought a challenge in 2018, arguing that those rights should only safeguard those assigned as women at birth. But the Scottish government said that a trans woman with a GRC is legally a woman and should therefore be afforded the same legal protections.

Even though the case stems from a dispute over Scottish laws designed to increase the number of women sitting on boards, the outcome on Wednesday will shape the increasingly fractious and polarizing debate over transgender rights across the UK.

The UK’s ruling Labour party said the ruling brought “clarity and confidence” while the opposition Conservatives called it a “clear victory for common sense,” urging the government to amend existing guidance.

The five judges ruled in favor of For Women Scotland (FWS) – which proposed that not linking the legal definition of gender to biological sex would have repercussions on designated single-sex services, including changing rooms, hostels and communal accommodation.

“The terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex,” Lord Patrick Hodge told the court in London. “The provisions relating to sex discrimination can only be interpreted as referring to biological sex,” he added.

“Interpreting ‘sex’ as certificated sex would cut across the definitions of ‘man’ and ‘woman’ and thus the protected characteristic of sex in an incoherent way,” a summary of the ruling said, which added that transgender women could be excluded from same-sex facilities such as changing rooms if “proportionate.”

If transgender women with a GRC were afforded the same protected characteristic as biological women under the Equality Act, Hodge said, they would possess “greater rights than those who do not,” citing provisions relating to pregnancy and maternity leave.

The justice insisted that the court’s interpretation of the Equality Act 2010 “does not remove protection from trans people,” with or without a GRC document. A trans woman could claim discrimination on the grounds of gender reassignment, and because “she is perceived to be a woman,” added Hodge.

Britain’s government “has always supported the protection of single-sex spaces based on biological sex,” a spokesperson said, following the ruling.

“This ruling brings clarity and confidence, for women and service providers such as hospitals, refuges, and sports clubs,” the spokesperson added. “Single-sex spaces are protected in law and will always be protected by this Government.”

A ‘watershed for women’​

Despite Lord Hodge saying that the ruling should not be read as “a triumph for one or more groups in our society at the expense of another – it is not,” gender-critical campaigners are celebrating it as a major victory.

“The court has given the right answer: the protected characteristic of sex – male and female – refers to reality, not paperwork,” said the group Sex Matters.

Another charity, the LGB Alliance, which made arguments in the case, called it a “watershed for women.”

Former Scottish National Party MP Joanna Cherry, a longtime campaigner on the issue, told PA Media outside court she felt “hugely vindicated” by the ruling, adding that it was now “over to the politicians to make sure that the law is obeyed.”

Trans activists across the globe warn that the fierce public debate over their private lives has chipped away at protection for the marginalized and regularly vilified community in recent years.

In the UK, hate crimes on the basis of sexual identity rose by 112% in 2023, according to government figures – the same year a young trans girl, Brianna Ghey, was murdered by two schoolchildren in a park in central England.

And in the US, with the advent of the Trump administration, rights groups sounded the alarm over escalating attacks on the rights of transgender and nonbinary Americans.

Amnesty International, which backed the Scottish government, previously urged lawmakers to update existing legislation, so that trans communities have a right to privacy, to marry, to family life and health, without invasive bureaucratic measures.

On Wednesday, the NGO said that the ruling could have “potentially concerning consequences for trans people, but it is important to stress that the court has been clear that trans people are protected under the Equality Act against discrimination and harassment.”

LGBTQ charity Stonewall said the UK Supreme Court’s decision was “incredibly worrying for the trans community.”

After the ruling, Ella Morgan, a British trans advocate, told CNN she was deeply fearful over how the outcome would impact “mine and other transgender women’s futures.”

“I had a feeling these changes would be implemented in the UK following the US news, I hoped that deep down I would be wrong. Today for the first time, I am scared about walking out of my front door,” she said in a statement on Wednesday.”
 
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I'm not a pooner but I'm a woman suffering from gender dysphoria and I'm not gonna lie over the past three years it's progressed to the point where it's so bad that I crave the sweet release of death so I don't have to feel it anymore. It hurts knowing theyfabs will be happier than what I can possibly hope to be.

Why post this here? This is the only platform that wouldn't tell me to poon out. I'm too transphobic to be trans and too dysphoric to live.
I can tell you one thing: you're definitely not trans. 'Cause if you were trans you wouldn't be that unsure. So you're doing a right thing by not transitioning, for it's not going to make things better in your case.

Idk what your story is, but I would recommend to go to a psychiatrist rather than a psychologist, for your problem may lie in some hormonal issues.

>too dysphoric to live
If it's not too personal, could you explain what exactly do you mean by this?
 
Today for the first time, I am scared about walking out of my front door,” she said in a statement on Wednesday.”
They are so unbelievably over dramatic. What is changing the legal definition of “woman” realistically going to do to them? They aren’t going to get murdered on the street because of this. Calm the fuck down.
 
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This should get its own thread.

This is it, ladies and gentlemen. This is the watershed moment. This is the Troons' Stalingrad.
So much more milking to come. This is the Telegraph's frontpage for tomorrow.
 

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So much more milking to come. This is the Telegraph's frontpage for tomorrow.
Oh, God, yes.

This is not just the first major counter-attack against The Genders, it's essentially:

REEEE
Knock it off.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I said: knock it off.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*Hydrogen bomb drops*

We warned you people. We especially warned you what would happen if you went after our children.
 
I already do everything you advised except therapy (I can't find a therapist that would not tell me to poon out) and I still felt like shit. I work out as much as I can. I don't care about that societal shit, the entire world can tell me I'm a man and I'll still feel like shit because my body isn't male. It's reaching psychosis level at this point.
I just want to say that I hear what you're going through and hope things get better. I'm glad to hear you won't poon out on us. Not necessarily for the dysmorphia, but have you ever worked out by doing something like BJJ or another form of grappling? I have no idea about body dysmorphia or whatever underlying issue is going on so maybe community workouts would exacerbate it, but it's real fun and girls can get pretty damn good at it.
when I wake up and I am convinced I'm mutilated and all of my bones are misaligned.
Also, I hope this doesn't come off as hurtful or agitating to the issue because it's just a stupid joke, but it would be funny if you posted a pic of your body and your bones legitimately were like impossibly misaligned. Like you clearly somehow had a femur protruding from your skull and your ribcage was upside down and in your stomach. We could call you The Elephant Manlet if you pooned out, though.

Hang in there, dude. For real. <3 +1 on still seeking out a psychiatrist if you have insurance. The worst that happens is if they tell you to troon out, you can dip.
 
Thanks guys I appreciate it.
If you want to be convinced against it, go to the thread where people have lost family/friends to troonery. See how much suffering those people have gone through watching their loved ones fall to this shit. Not trying to guilt you, but to maybe help you realize it's not worth it.

If you DO go to a psychiatrist/psychologist, go to one that is a PhD, don't go to LCSW/Therapist types - these are the ones that are left wing. Avoid female mental health professionals. They WILL support you trooning out.

You basically need someone who has Jordan Peterson's (I know a bunch of you don't like him, but he's anti-troon so that's all that matters to me) mindset when it comes to clinical psychiatry. i.e. They don't let their politics get in the way of treating someone like you who needs help.
 
have you ever worked out by doing something like BJJ or another form of grappling
I don't want to be touched
If it's not too personal, could you explain what exactly do you mean by this?
I feel mutilated. I wake up every day and when my mind is unoccupied even for a minute I'm assaulted with the feeling that my body is wrong and my bones are misaligned. It's like a searing pain for me and I drink or smoke to dull it to a footnote in the background.

I envy male bodies intensely. I believe that it's meant to be mine. I should have that body and that strength. I'm a female bodybuilder and I work out as much as possible outside of my physical labour job but I still feel weak and worthless no matter what I do.

Everything I want to do is hard or impossible to me but I wake up everyday and get to grinding at the same dead end life because the other option is to finally kill myself and I want to do everything in my power to escape whatever this is that I find myself in so I can say I really did try everything before I kms

f you want to be convinced against it, go to the thread where people have lost family/friends to troonery. See how much suffering those people have gone through watching their loved ones fall to this shit. Not trying to guilt you, but to maybe help you realize it's not worth it.
>Implying I have loved ones

If you DO go to a psychiatrist/psychologist, go to one that is a PhD, don't go to LCSW/Therapist types - these are the ones that are left wing. Avoid female mental health professionals. They WILL support you trooning out.
I can't afford neither the payment or the time needed to hunt a unicorn.

I think I’ve seen some posts of yours talking about abnormal libido - if I were you I’d get your doctor to do some basic tests, perhaps including your hormones.
I'm on PEDs, I have been going to the gym for 3-4 years now and hop on like just about anyone else I know. I'm certain I'm going to kms if I lost my gym process at this point so going off is not happening. Without PEDs I feel like I'm a complete zero but with it I feel like maybe I can achieve something in my life.
 
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I'm on PEDs,
You dont need me to tell you this is a problem - you dont have to give up the gym, weights and exercise are good for you. But if you’re taking steroid type/anabolic type drugs you’re going to do yourself a lot of damage. You already are. You need to get some intensive help. You cannot be as strong as a male but you can be strong and healthy. Not like this though.
What exactly are you taking, and what are you smoking? Drinking on top of steroids like that will destroy your liver. dope can trigger psychotic type symptoms like the feeling of bones being misaligned. You need to work through what’s caused this feeling of weakness and fear with someone you can trust
It’s really awful that in this time you can’t be certain of getting a non pooner mental health help.
 
You cannot be as strong as a male but you can be strong and healthy.
I would rather kms than admit this to myself. I don't care how psychotic I look to you but I obsessively care about this. What is even the point of living if I'm weak? Also everyone around me is also on PEDs or other drugs. My friend is on tren at the moment. If I'm gonna die I'm sure he will die first. With other drugs another friend actually OD back in 24 and died lol. If I keep on going I'm going to be a fucking legend

What exactly are you taking, and what are you smoking?
Nothing hard just test and anavar (for recovery) and weed. Felt like there's nothing I can do at all and I'm just pinned in the exact position I'm in and the idea is so painful I need something to take the edge off to live another day.

You need to work through what’s caused this feeling of weakness and fear with someone you can trust
If my irls know this I'll be humiliated. I only dare tell every part of my cringe life story on the internet because none of you will ever know who I am
 
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I would rather kms than admit this to myself. I don't care how psychotic I look to you but I obsessively care about this.
But it’s true. Reality is harsh, but lying to yourself is a bad thing to do. It’s the ultimate deception, and yet it never works. Are you trying to create a persona that’s tough to avoid a repeat of a time when you were weak?
Also everyone around me is also on PEDs or other drugs.
Well that’s their dumb choice, it doesn’t mean you should.
If I'm gonna die I'm sure he will die first.
No, as a male he will take it much better. You will be hurt first. Please try to stop
If my irls know this I'll be humiliated.
Don’t talk to them then. Do you have any ‘trusted stranger’ type?
The appearance of physical strength while you fry your liver is not true strength. I’m sorry, this sounds like I’m being snarky and I’m genuinely not - I’m just trying to say that this will not end well. You’re clearly in pain, and the bodybuilding and PEDs is a maladaptive coping response that’s going to kill you. Before it kills you it’ll weaken you, because the female body cannot take this kind of stuff. Please try to take care of yourself.
 
No, as a male he will take it much better.
the female body cannot take this kind of stuff.
Just about every female bodybuilder that compete in physique is on the entire pharmacy and I haven't seen them drop dead yet. If it's good enough for them then it's good enough for me. Why is it a hobby for them but suddenly when it's me it's a mental illness?


Are you trying to create a persona that’s tough to avoid a repeat of a time when you were weak?
My entire life has been nothing but the world fucking me in the ass over and over again just for existing. I did nothing wrong but my existence is a blight on this earth
 
Why is it a hobby for them but suddenly when it's me it's a mental illness?
Women who obsess about body building and go wild with PEDs often have underlying issues, too, of course. I wouldn't say "mental illness", but often some sort of obsessive drive. Not always, though. But in this specific context, the other female body builders are just "other female body builders" so who knows? With you, it's easier to consider mental something playing a role because you've given us extra context. It's not like it's an insult or sleight against you to have a mental health comorbidity in play.
What is even the point of living if I'm weak?
What is weak, though? We're all weak in ways. Do you know why you have such a need to be strong or at least not weak? Do you have any hobbies that are unrelated to fitness?

If my irls know this I'll be humiliated
Is this more so due to the type of friends they are, or just how you'd feel sharing something personal and putting it out there to anybody? Perhaps this has been answered already, but is any of this related to prior experiences with men? Feel free not to answer, of course.
my existence is a blight on this earth
I don't agree.
 
There is another question they could ask, but they won't, because it's easier to just handwave it as "radicalized into becoming Evil".
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How can this have 1.1k likes? It isn't even coherent. The "places" they want us banned? "Schools" is a place, I grant you. "Social media" is not a place except figuratively, and nobody is asking for transgender people to be banned from social media. "trans coworkers/students" is not a place. Is someone suggesting "banning" trans coworkers/students? What?

Perhaps emily quinn might want to ask himself how people turned so (seemingly) quickly against trans ideology?
 
After discussing the idea, I have decoupled the Stinkditch from the Lolcow Salon. A point of contention in the Salon being an explicitly female space is that a lot of users who got banned from the category for being dickheads in off-topic would also be locked out of on-topic thread about troons they were active in. It was generally agreed that keeping stricter rules in the Salon was worth making this board a general on-topic board.
 
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