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In case anyone is wondering, back in the early early days of the forum, transgenders were this sort of oddity that nobody took seriously. It was just a quirky thing. @introman was the first person I knew to identify correctly that transgenderism was not just a mental illness and sexuality, but some sort of quasi-networking thing. He would talk about how all the trannies knew each other and everyone genuinely thought he was insane for years until it broke through to mainstream. The ratking was basically about trannies, but it was this naive perspective that their reach was limited to their little group.

Any chance of that Rat King thread prefix for the earlier trooncows' threads? The Rat King theory was a pretty interesting early view of this now mainstream phenomenon that (to my knowledge) was unique to the forum and a pretty important part of its history - maybe it could act as a memorial to it?

 

[Null]

It's meaningless now. There's the old rat King meta thread with a list

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

How is still "allegedly strangled" if the convict has been convicted?

And been in prison since 2001.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Is there some sort of history on how Kiwifarms turned on trannies. I get that this was never really a pro tranny forums exactly, but it seems like users used to believe in some sort of a grey area. Threads from the mid to late 2010s seem to be full of users drawing a distinction between "trenders" and "real trans people." It's kind of interesting to chart out a community peaking in real time. I think part of the peaking process is going through that "what about real trans people who actually have gender dysphroia?" stage.

The obvious thing that led to the current state is #DropKiwiFarms. But I guess my question is, to what degree did the forum become transphobic because of #DropKiwiFarms, and to what extent did #DropKiwiFarms happen because the farms was transphobic?

 

[Vibe_Guy]

@introman was the first person I knew to identify correctly that transgenderism was not just a mental illness and sexuality, but some sort of quasi-networking thing.

Man was ahead of his time on so many levels. It's a religion of it's own at this point. Like, you know when you enter a church you have to cross yourself turned towards the entrance, and it's a taboo thing to curse God or speak loudly? Well, when you enter a trans game makers discord, you have to agree in the rules not to be a bigot (the entry rule page, so to speak), and if you call a MtF a "he" it's blasphemy to the point of kicking you out.

Liz Fong has a whole book or leaflet explaining how to interact with her him, like he's some sort of God like coder you have to treat with veneration, lest she calls HR and litigates you.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I think the Jake Alley thread should just be moved to plain old Lolcows, as he's not really connected to the trans community or any community. He reply-guys a few, but I don't think that's usually enough to get you bunched into the same subforum unless your whole gimmick is being a dedicated A-Log.
Where did we put Rekieta after he flunked out of Multimedia? I forget.

 

[Danann]

Once you start realizing that a majority of the bullshit being pushed is by assholes who strongly believe that gender dysphoria isn't a requirement or even needed to be considered "transgender", you begin to realize that this is all just one big psyop for the mental asylum to run everything.

 

[wenttobermuda]

Is there some sort of history on how Kiwifarms turned on trannies. I get that this was never really a pro tranny forums exactly, but it seems like users used to believe in some sort of a grey area. Threads from the mid to late 2010s seem to be full of users drawing a distinction between "trenders" and "real trans people." It's kind of interesting to chart out a community peaking in real time. I think part of the peaking process is going through that "what about real trans people who actually have gender dysphroia?" stage.

The obvious thing that led to the current state is #DropKiwiFarms. But I guess my question is, to what degree did the forum become transphobic because of #DropKiwiFarms, and to what extent did #DropKiwiFarms happen because the farms was transphobic?

The discovery of Yanniv and his "WAX MY BALLS, BIGOT" lawsuits was a pivotal event in shaping the Farms' attitude toward troons.

 

[TruffleSpark]

The discovery of Yanniv and his "WAX MY BALLS, BIGOT" lawsuits was a pivotal event in shaping the Farms' attitude toward troons.

I can see how going from mocking Brianna Wu to Jonathon Yaniv would radicalize people. Wu might be a crazy person, but despite his insane beliefs he doesn't seem like he is dangerous to be around, so despite how disliked he was during Gamergate he was actually probably a good ambassador for trannies as a group of insane, but mostly harmless effeminate men. Then Yaniv comes along, and it's like "oh, most trannies aren't like Wu, they're sexually predatory heterosexual men like Yaniv."

 

[Bill's Due]

In case anyone is wondering, back in the early early days of the forum, transgenders were this sort of oddity that nobody took seriously. It was just a quirky thing. @introman was the first person I knew to identify correctly that transgenderism was not just a mental illness and sexuality, but some sort of quasi-networking thing. He would talk about how all the trannies knew each other and everyone genuinely thought he was insane for years until it broke through to mainstream. The ratking was basically about trannies, but it was this naive perspective that their reach was limited to their little group.

If that's the case, when the fuck did these degenerates start saying it's perfectly okay to advocate to children?

Are they networking to run their own troon trafficking rings? Because if they are, we need more woodchippers to thin the swarm.

The discovery of Yanniv and his "WAX MY BALLS, BIGOT" lawsuits was a pivotal event in shaping the Farms' attitude toward troons.

I just find it funny I knew about Yanniv mostly because of ANOTHER trans (Blaire White) that knew Yanniv was an actual danger to kids. He/she/it (Blaire) knows he/she/it is an anomaly among the troon crowd, but at least Blaire hates the cult-like/religious behavior of the current trans social contagion.

I can see how going from mocking Brianna Wu to Jonathon Yaniv would radicalize people. Wu might be a crazy person, but despite his insane beliefs he doesn't seem like he is dangerous to be around, so despite how disliked he was during Gamergate he was actually probably a good ambassador for trannies as a group of insane, but mostly harmless effeminate men. Then Yaniv comes along, and it's like "oh, most trannies aren't like Wu, they're sexually predatory heterosexual men like Yaniv."

The same way the new right popped up to bash on feminists and far left social justice warriors. It's when people are told they aren't allowed to make fun of the mental and socially retarded ones and that it's perfectly ok TO be a retard missing a couple chromosomes. In fact, the more chromosomes/IQ points you're missing, the more victim points you gain.

It went from "leave us alone and let us do our thing" (early 2000's trans ideology) to "you HAVE to acknowledge us, bigot, oh and I'm 40 years old and trans now, accept my new name you bigot" (where we are now). Also, if you pay attention to how identity movements work, they all use the same strategy. Feminism, "African (Nigger) studies", trans/gender ideology, etc. Just swap the group that they're simping for and it's the same copy-paste application. When you notice the pattern it's easy to sniff out how it's easy to hate them all because THEY ACT EXACTLY THE SAME.

 

[TruffleSpark]

TERF/radfem youtuber Runawaysiren940 had a video uploaded on her channel a few months ago by her channel manager saying she had died. Anyway he uploaded another one saying the channel might be deleted soon. He made it sound like it had something to do with some sort of legal problem about her being dead, and therefore unable to contest anything to do with her channel, he didn't say it had anything to do with trannies being vindictive abusers of the legal system but I think we can read between the lines here. Here's the video.

Anyway, I got Preservetube to make a copy of her channel so hopefully that will survive even the channel on youtube gets deleted:

https://preservetube.com/channel/UCWHJLktXzVZmCKH67bD-Ihw

She did a video titled "Trans Men Are Dying Young" expressing concern over the high mortality rate of trans identified women. Here;s how the comments have gone since she died:

It's frustrating having compassion for people who it seems would never return the favor to you. There's also this comment:

lmao

 

[bouquetnine]

Is there some sort of history on how Kiwifarms turned on trannies. I get that this was never really a pro tranny forums exactly, but it seems like users used to believe in some sort of a grey area. Threads from the mid to late 2010s seem to be full of users drawing a distinction between "trenders" and "real trans people." It's kind of interesting to chart out a community peaking in real time. I think part of the peaking process is going through that "what about real trans people who actually have gender dysphroia?" stage.

The obvious thing that led to the current state is #DropKiwiFarms. But I guess my question is, to what degree did the forum become transphobic because of #DropKiwiFarms, and to what extent did #DropKiwiFarms happen because the farms was transphobic?

Once you start realizing that a majority of the bullshit being pushed is by assholes who strongly believe that gender dysphoria isn't a requirement or even needed to be considered "transgender", you begin to realize that this is all just one big psyop for the mental asylum to run everything.

It went from "leave us alone and let us do our thing" (early 2000's trans ideology) to "you HAVE to acknowledge us, bigot, oh and I'm 40 years old and trans now, accept my new name you bigot" (where we are now). Also, if you pay attention to how identity movements work, they all use the same strategy. Feminism, "African (Nigger) studies", trans/gender ideology, etc. Just swap the group that they're simping for and it's the same copy-paste application. When you notice the pattern it's easy to sniff out how it's easy to hate them all because THEY ACT EXACTLY THE SAME.

This is all part of an effort to destabilize the west. None of this shit is organic. A handful of billionaires control speech on the internet. They censor anything anti-troon, they use astroturf companies to promote troons. Plenty of narcissists have happily jumped at the chance to abuse others by putting on a skirt and taking their fetish public.

No one wants this shit. The data (Cass Review) doesn't support this shit. It's all fake and the goal is to keep us fighting each other and prevent another Occupy Wall Street from evolving into a mass Luigi event.

 

[Bill's Due]

TERF/radfem youtuber Runawaysiren940 had a video uploaded on her channel a few months ago by her channel manager saying she had died. Anyway he uploaded another one saying the channel might be deleted soon. He made it sound like it had something to do with some sort of legal problem about her being dead, and therefore unable to contest anything to do with her channel, he didn't say it had anything to do with trannies being vindictive abusers of the legal system but I think we can read between the lines here. Here's the video.

Anyway, I got Preservetube to make a copy of her channel so hopefully that will survive even the channel on youtube gets deleted:

https://preservetube.com/channel/UCWHJLktXzVZmCKH67bD-Ihw

She did a video titled "Trans Men Are Dying Young" expressing concern over the high mortality rate of trans identified women.

I still don't think it's a good idea to get chummy with TERFs, even if they're right on this. They agree with the rest of us sane people on *one* thing, that's *it*, but they won't hesitate to turn around and shut the door on you once you tell them you're anti-abortion, for example. And you bet they suffer from the cognitive dissonance of being 100% against anti free speech, and they still believe in the fake concept known as "hate speech".

The enemy of our enemy is not our friend, just another cog in the wheel that makes this shit even more obnoxious.

 

[Twix Eatr]

Agreed. They'll object to being called "period havers" and whatnot, but turn around and refer to their own child as a parasite or themselves as an "incubator." It's silly, but whatever.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

I'm not a pooner but I'm a woman suffering from gender dysphoria and I'm not gonna lie over the past three years it's progressed to the point where it's so bad that I crave the sweet release of death so I don't have to feel it anymore. It hurts knowing theyfabs will be happier than what I can possibly hope to be.

Why post this here? This is the only platform that wouldn't tell me to poon out. I'm too transphobic to be trans and too dysphoric to live.

 

[expectant asshole]

Exercise and/or get therapy to learn to appreciate your body. Read the SRS thread to understand how having a working urinary system is incredibly important. Appreciate your health and don’t destroy it in a futile quest to be male. You’ll never be a man and that’s ok.

You can dress however you want (clean clothes and appropriate for the situation please). Style your hair however you want. You don’t have to wear dresses or makeup or get your nails done or any of that crap if you don’t want to. You can be masculine and still be a woman. Don’t let others tell you that you have to behave a certain way to be a woman. Tell them to fuck off and live your life.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

You’ll never be a man and that’s ok.

I know.
I already do everything you advised except therapy (I can't find a therapist that would not tell me to poon out) and I still felt like shit. I work out as much as I can. I don't care about that societal shit, the entire world can tell me I'm a man and I'll still feel like shit because my body isn't male. It's reaching psychosis level at this point.

Appreciate your health and don’t destroy it in a futile quest to be male.

I'm on a trajectory towards suicide lol I'm not going to get surgery but life is not worth living when I wake up and I am convinced I'm mutilated and all of my bones are misaligned. I feel like I have a form of body dysphoria but I don't know how to treat it

 

[expectant asshole]

Please keep trying to find someone to talk to. There was some research that antidepressants or the addiction drug (naxo something) can help with obsessive thoughts. I think gender disphoria could be linked with obsessive compulsive disorders, but I am not a doctor and I wouldn’t play one on the internet.
Keep shitposting here or look at cat videos or whatever gives you any happiness. Take care of yourself.
/mum mode off

 

[CuntessMaximus]

I'm not a pooner but I'm a woman suffering from gender dysphoria and I'm not gonna lie over the past three years it's progressed to the point where it's so bad that I crave the sweet release of death so I don't have to feel it anymore.

You coming here shows that you know you don’t want to go through with it. Plenty of women have embraced a more androgynous or masculine approach to their overall appearance, and it can look great if done right. You do not need to poon out, nor do you need to embrace typical feminine gender roles. Like Expectant Asshole said, look through the SRS thread (and the stinkditch forum in general) and seek out a therapist that will work with you. Trying to “become male” is futile and the toll it takes on your physical and mental health isn’t pretty. It’s not worth it.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

Thanks guys I appreciate it.