Culture Hollywood Is Cranking Out Original Movies. Audiences Aren’t Showing Up. - New movies based on fresh ideas are fizzling at the box office

By Ben Fritz
April 13, 2025 2:17 pm ET

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Director Christopher Landon with Meghann Fahy, who stars in the thriller ‘Drop.’ Photo: Bernard Walsh/Associated Press

LOS ANGELES—When director Christopher Landon introduced his new thriller, “Drop,” before its premiere at the Chinese Theater on Hollywood’s Walk of Fame, he had a warning for the packed auditorium.

“It’s really hard out there for an original movie,” he said, urging everyone who liked the Universal Pictures release to “scream it from the rooftops” and on social media.

“Drop” opened this weekend to an estimated $7.5 million domestically, one of two new movies based on fresh ideas that fizzled at the box office. The other was Disney’s “The Amateur,” a spy thriller adapted from a little-known 1981 book, which opened to an estimated $15 million.

After years of gripes from average moviegoers and Hollywood insiders alike about the seemingly nonstop barrage of sequels, spin offs and adaptations of comic books and toys, the film industry placed more bets on original ideas.

The results have been ugly.

Nearly every movie released by a major studio in the past year based on an original script or a little-known book has been a box-office disappointment. Before this weekend’s flops were Warner Bros. Discovery’s“Mickey 17” and “The Alto Knights,” Paramount’s “Novocaine,” Apple’s “Fly Me to the Moon,” Amazon’s “Red One,” and the independently financed “Horizon: An American Saga Chapter 1” and “Megalopolis.”

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Jack Quaid in ‘Novocaine.’ Photo: Paramount/Everett Collection

Jason Blum, who produced “Drop” and built his company Blumhouse largely on original horror franchises, said audiences’ preference for known properties has made it harder to release original movies in theaters, “even though that’s where some of the most exciting and risky storytelling still lives.”

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Getting people into theaters more frequently is a priority for a movie industry still recovering from the pandemic. Box-office revenue in the first three months of this year in the U.S. and Canada was the lowest it has been, excluding the pandemic, since 1996.

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t the CinemaCon industry convention in early April, theater owners said they welcome more original films, but only if they are backed by robust advertising campaigns. Building buzz for a new film in a media environment fractured between YouTube, TikTok, streaming and sports is tough, particularly when it is an unknown title.

“We’re opening films that have almost zero awareness,” said Bill Barstow, president of Main Street Theatres, a small Nebraska-based chain.

Many consumers are content to wait until an original motion picture is available to rent online a few weeks after its theatrical release or to stream on a service like Netflix in a few months.

‘Creating new franchises’​

The only films succeeding in the current environment are those with built-in audiences, like “A Minecraft Movie,” which was released in early April and has grossed more than $280 million domestically. And these days, even franchises can be far from a sure thing. Long-running series such as Marvel and DC superheroes and live-action remakes of Disney animated classics are showing their age and proving unreliable at the box office.

Studios say they have little choice but to make more original movies they hope will buck the odds.

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‘A Minecraft Movie’ has grossed more than $280 million domestically. Photo: Warner Bros/Everett Collection

“Telling original stories and taking risks is the only path toward creating new global franchises,” Bill Damaschke, Warner Bros.’ head of animation, said at CinemaCon.

Some of the increase in original film releases is attributable to Amazon and Apple, which are building film businesses with few well-established franchises. One of the biggest bets on an original film from any company this year is Apple’s “F1,” a June release starring Brad Pitt as a race-car driver.

Amazon hyped 11 coming movies to exhibitors at CinemaCon, of which six were originals. Among traditional studios, Warner Bros. is taking the most risks on originals, with big budget films from directors Paul Thomas Anderson and Maggie Gyllenhaal.

Hollywood’s next original release comes Friday with Warner’s “Sinners,” a horror movie starring Michael B. Jordan. Next month even Marvel, home to Hollywood’s biggest franchises, is taking a gamble with “Thunderbolts,” about a super team brand new to all but the most devoted comic-book readers.

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That's another thing not talked about. The big stars of the past are getting old and turned off portions of the population with their hot political takes. And who is there to replace them? People who got where they are because of who their parent is or how many casting couches they laid on.
I've said this previously but there are no modern stars. Every new blood actor the movies have tried to introduce are a disaster. Zendaya? Terrible, monotone, bland. She's not terrible but she's not eye catching. Tom Holland has proven time and time again he has too much of a baby face and will until he's 30. He's not getting around it and an action star, he is not. Nobody buys this weak NEPO looking baby beating up monsters and bad guys. He just doesn't have the stuff. Hailey Bailey? Disaster and memed to death whether she deserves it or not.

Even their semi-old blood sucks. Raimi Malek? Good actor, can't salvage a bad script and type cast. Michael B Jordan? Also a typecast, black, not strong enough to really carry a movie on his own. Robert Pattinson? Absolutely insufferable prick. Ryan Gosling? Maybe can carry a movie but really isn't that strong. You have a lot of weak personalities that just can't get the job done.
 
That's another thing not talked about. The big stars of the past are getting old and turned off portions of the population with their hot political takes. And who is there to replace them? People who got where they are because of who their parent is or how many casting couches they laid on.
I wish it was casting couches. At least that would suggest the actresses looked good, nowadays it's just ugly people with nepotism.
 
That's another thing not talked about. The big stars of the past are getting old and turned off portions of the population with their hot political takes. And who is there to replace them? People who got where they are because of who their parent is or how many casting couches they laid on.
There is also how too many stars have become mundane, rather than keep their status as celebrities. Social media killed that. There was something out of this world about the divas of the past. Now, they're twerking for BLM.

We were meant to admire them for their talent. Too many now want to be admired by their opinions. And their opinions are retarded. Also, I'm not paying for your opinion, I'm paying to see you act. I don't care what you think in the same way I don't mind what other people l give my money think. But as I have the right to switch my doctor if I find out he's a commie, I don't have to pay to see the work of an actor who thinks middle class Americans are dumb and evil.
 
The problem is multi-faceted, but here's my colder than Epstein's corpse take:
1) After decades of ever-increasing propaganda, nobody wants this shit
2) Modern actors are all talentless hacks. I can name like 3 actors under 35 who aren't nepo babies
3) Modern writers are all talentless hacks with no life experience. They cannot write from any perspective but their own and their own perspective is garbage.
4) Modern film-making has no struggle or pursuit of vision. Everything is shot in huge batches on a sound stage and 80% of the effects and work are done at a workstation and the editors are told to make a movie from 200 hours of shoots.
5) Movies are a waste of time and money now, even a GOOD movie will set you back $35+ per person to see in the Cinema, will waste 2.5-3 hours of your life, and being forced to share that space with loud disruptive and violent pavement apes and brainrotted wannabe influencers who livestream during the movie and disrupt the experience make it impossible to endure.

The theater is dead.
 
Instead of wasting money on Ridley Scott. How about give a bag of money and cocaine to Paul Verhoeven....
I'd love to see a proper sequel to Starship Troopers but that's just asking for the whole damn monkey's paw to shrivel up and die.
Isn't there a movie from 2001 called that?
Yeah, a "black comedy" starring Steve Martin that was one of the least funny movies I've ever seen.
 
Whining about people not wanting to go see new movies after years of hollyweird churning out blatant agitprop slop for years is like complaining no one wants to try your new recipes when everything you cook gives people explosive diarrhea. Movies cost money and people don't want to spend money to watch the kind of shit they've been putting out, and thus also don't want to risk spending money on the "new" stuff. They completely fucked up both the bread and circuses in bread and circuses, they could have just had endless cash printing churning out the same type of shit they got really good at in the late 20th century. But they wanted to use the entertainment sector to prop up their propaganda and now the result is a bunch of dangerhairs and pompous celebs feel like political gurus rather than the dancing monkeys they really are. The Romans were right to regard actors as on the same level as prostitutes.
 
it reminds me of comics. For years, the old school fans were screaming at marvel to knock it off with the race swap, nigger worship, pandering, telling them if they really wanted to make black/gay/trans/whatever the fuck characters, they should just make a new one.

so they did, and we the 'new' new warriors. proving that unless they are leeching off a successful character/team, they are utterly incapable of getting more than 10 people to look at their garbage.
 

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Some of it is beyond woke stuff or uninspiring actors.

Hollywood now has to compete with Youtube, Tiktok, Amazon Prime, and other streaming platforms. The market is much tighter, and after the pandemic, people have discovered they have a lot of other options besides going to an overpriced theatre.

The only reasons to go-are to see a big franchise sequel more or less or maybe to see a specific actor or director if you follow their work close enough(I try to see Robert Eggers' movies whenever they are released).

I'd also the culture is largely spent, the wells of inspiration are largely dry, and there aren't many unturned stones. But yes, one problem is Hollywood writers are increasingly divorced from the mores and background of the movie going public.

Someone who lives in LA or super liberal South California and has spent their entire lives in the film industry-has long since lost the ability to organically appeal to large audiences, except but for recognizable brands.

I think...Hollywood will survive, but it ultimately is going to have to accept its going to just not as relevant as it was, and whatever share of the population willing to go to the theatres is the only share of the population they will reliably get anymore.

went through the trailers of a few movies that were mentioned, and one thing stuck out immediately

roastie looking, flat boob chick main character from Drop
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love interest or something from novocaine
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smarmy nigger actual main character from mickey 17
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i have one suggestion for movie creators that will immediately boost sales

STOP PUTTING UGLY WOMEN AND NIGGERS IN YOUR MOVIES. I'M SICK OF THEM. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM, ANYWHERE, EVER
They are never ever going to do that. They've taken Anita Sarkesian and various feminist and black activist complaints about "racist heterocentrism" and "the male gaze" or something seriously. If its either "niggers and ugly women" or "people stop coming" the Jews and hyper liberals that run Hollywood will close up shop completely.

(This is equally true in the video game industry, the Jews and libtards and troons that run it will see the entire industry disappear before giving the chuds any sort of concession).
 
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I've said this previously but there are no modern stars. Every new blood actor the movies have tried to introduce are a disaster. Zendaya? Terrible, monotone, bland. She's not terrible but she's not eye catching. Tom Holland has proven time and time again he has too much of a baby face and will until he's 30. He's not getting around it and an action star, he is not. Nobody buys this weak NEPO looking baby beating up monsters and bad guys. He just doesn't have the stuff. Hailey Bailey? Disaster and memed to death whether she deserves it or not.

Even their semi-old blood sucks. Raimi Malek? Good actor, can't salvage a bad script and type cast. Michael B Jordan? Also a typecast, black, not strong enough to really carry a movie on his own. Robert Pattinson? Absolutely insufferable prick. Ryan Gosling? Maybe can carry a movie but really isn't that strong. You have a lot of weak personalities that just can't get the job done.
Glenn Powell is the only one I think of. Despite a smaller role in Top Gun Maverick he was far more Interesting than Miles Teller as Gooses Son
 
Agreed with everything said in this thread, plus a few thoughts of my own:

1. The idea of sitting at a screen for work and shitposting on Kiwis and watching something streaming with the fam makes the idea of leaving the house to sit in front of another screen sound exhausting. The best time of day is time not spent staring at a screen. I'd rather go sit by the lake for three hours and watch the ducks than sit in front of a screen, with a caveat: I'll go to the theater for a spectacle.

2. I saw someone say that the real problem with capeshit is that it's sucked up the careers of a lot of young (and not-so-young) actors. I think there's a nugget of truth in there in that a chunk of the top-grossing actors from the past 10 years are people I couldn't pick out of a lineup. I'll watch a movie I wouldn't ordinarily be into if I like the actor, but the idea of a Dwayne Johnson film festival sounds way less interesting than an Ed Norton film festival.

3. This is going to sound like I am the oldest fag ever to fag while old, but we don't have a shared American TV or music culture anymore. I remember being a young fag and going to school and being like "Did you SEE that shit on TV last night?" and five other people being like "Shit was WILD yo," or wandering down to the movies and watching whatever was playing and some of it was ass and some of it was great, then you're chatting with friends and some of them went to the same movies too because it's what people did.

I also think ads are a part of the dissolution of shared culture. We live in very siloed ad environments, where I get ads for home decor, luggage, and stuff for the dog. I don't remember the last time I saw a commercial for a movie unless it was for another Amazon or Netflix show before the main feature.

Finally, and maybe this is just me being a Gen Xer, but it seems like the only movies nowadays that have a real musical tie-in are the James Bond films. It seems like from the 70s through the 90s people took their soundtracks seriously and it showed. This kind of goes with the ad thing where I can name at least 10 non-musical movies that had a song that was kind of like an "ad" for the movie while still being a song that could stand on its own merits.

Don't you... forget about me.
My heart will go on....
If I would would you?
I... had... the time of my life.
You could be mi-yiy-ne.
The world was on fire and no-one could save me but you....
I'm the one natural one.
If I... should stay... I would only be in your way...
Been spending most our lives livin' in a gangsta's paradise.
Wise men say, only fools rush in.
The heart's filthy lesson falls upon deaf ears.
Relax! Don't do it!
In my dreams I'm jealous all the time...
It's such a perfect day...
Girl... you'll be a woman soon.
Hiiiiiiiiighway to the danger zone!
Eye of the tiger!
I think we're alone now!
These boots are made for walking!
Take me to... funky town! (Okay, maybe not that one.)

4. In summary, I read once that the point of an ad often isn't to get you to buy something new, it's to remind you that you like the thing. Just keep it there in the working memory.

I see an ad for a movie with an actor or director I like and I think, "Hey, that might be worth seeing."

If I see AN ad in the first place, I'm not familiar with the director, the top stars are people I have only vaguely heard of, and the backing music is generic EDM, is that even going to penetrate my mind as something I might like?

To wit, if you ask me tomorrow if I've heard of any of the songs in the OP, the likelihood that my brain will be as smooth as a baby's ass is high.
 
This is proof that Bollywood films are, and always have been, superior to the goyslop pushed out by ((Hollywood)).
Bollywood remembers that it needs to be fun. That's the difference and it's a fucking huge one. Who wants to be preached to on their recreational time?
Pajeet hands typed this.
Bollywood movies are about the only good thing India has pumped out and that's because the movies remember that they're entertainment.
 
Look, as soon as I'm done watching all 20 sequels to Don Bluth's 11 original films (with only one of which he was involved) I promise I'll go see one of these new original movies. I'm workin on it!

Hey, you know what's a great original idea that no one has done? Sequel to Thumbelina! People would definitely buy that on vhs!
Hailey Bailey?
You made that up.
Don't you... forget about me.
My heart will go on....
If I would would you?
I... had... the time of my life.
You could be mi-yiy-ne.
The world was on fire and no-one could save me but you....
I'm the one natural one.
If I... should stay... I would only be in your way...
Been spending most our lives livin' in a gangsta's paradise.
Wise men say, only fools rush in.
The heart's filthy lesson falls upon deaf ears.
Relax! Don't do it!
In my dreams I'm jealous all the time...
It's such a perfect day...
Girl... you'll be a woman soon.
Hiiiiiiiiighway to the danger zone!
Eye of the tiger!
I think we're alone now!
These boots are made for walking!
Take me to... funky town! (Okay, maybe not that one.)
SomeBODY
 
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Hollywood now has to compete with Youtube, Tiktok, Amazon Prime, and other streaming platforms. The market is much tighter, and after the pandemic, people have discovered they have a lot of other options besides going to an overpriced theatre.
And now Hollywood face the same music then Detroit faced. There's an article about this.

The specter of Los Angeles becoming another Detroit, a city built on a specific industry that became a shell of its former self when that business moved out, loomed over a compelling film and TV industry town hall that tackled not only the calamitous drop in production in Hollywood and California, but also the fight to get the state to increase its entertainment production tax incentive.

The event on Monday night drilled down into a later stage of the entertainment production pipeline that is also currently in crisis: scoring and postproduction.

“This is not hyperbole to say that if we don’t act, the California film and TV industry will become the next Detroit auto,” said Noelle Stehman, a member of the “Stay in LA” campaign who spoke at the event.
There was once a movie titled "Hollywood or Bust" with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin and with the current trend, we could said "Hollywood have bust".
 
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