Mega Rad Gun Thread

Yours Truly 2095 said:
I wonder where these things come from.
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well, a poor temper (too low temperature) on older steel formulations would often have an unpredictable plastic yield or even become brittle through work hardening and take a "set" which permanently deforms the spring at an inappropriate elastic point. pre-stressed steel going through annealing and tempering takes a large bite out of the ultimate strength of a spring beyond this yield point and as long as the spring isn't compressed or expanded beyond the limit, it should never reach a point of losing strength or taking a set. you can look up young's modulus if you want the math end of things.

chrome silicate spring steel is virtually immune to this sort of thing, assuming the spring is properly made and used in an appropriate way. even very cheap mags can use this alloy since it's like $0.30-0.80 per foot depending on gauge and if it's enameled, et c, and the typical 1911 magazine spring is around 18 inches long.
 
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I don't think I've ever thought about spring wear in magazines. It's a box with a spring in it, and springs wear out eventually. All mechanical parts do, at some point. Do people not consider mags consumable parts like they do recoil springs or barrels? I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
 
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Friedrich Hayek's Ghost said:
I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
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Wolff(gunsprings.com) offers separate magazine springs, and there are rebuild kits with a new follower, spring and baseplate(sometimes).
It's when the spring is considered a six cent part that it's not tempered correctly and takes a set.
 
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Friedrich Hayek's Ghost said:
I don't think I've ever thought about spring wear in magazines. It's a box with a spring in it, and springs wear out eventually. All mechanical parts do, at some point. Do people not consider mags consumable parts like they do recoil springs or barrels? I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
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You likely can. Wolff.and other companies make replacement springs for mags and guns. Pretty cheap too. I have some for some magazines for old ass guns where the mags are almost unobtainable.


Edit: I'm not deleting my post. TOTAL WOLFF SHILLING
 
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Friedrich Hayek's Ghost said:
I don't think I've ever thought about spring wear in magazines. It's a box with a spring in it, and springs wear out eventually. All mechanical parts do, at some point. Do people not consider mags consumable parts like they do recoil springs or barrels? I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
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most people don't consider anything a wear part. To be honest, I never heard of replacing barrels until i heard some PRS guy preaching a sermon on how .243 will "shoot out" a barrel at 1,000 rounds and it must be replaced. Meanwhile my Shooting mentor's .243 hunting rifle is 40 years old and has been shot a shit ton (the man lives to shoot) and it'll still hit steel at 300 yards every time.

point being, most people don't replace something unless it's broken and don't ever think about replacing anything to begin with.
 
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WhoBusTank69 said:
Wolff(gunsprings.com) offers separate magazine springs, and there are rebuild kits with a new follower, spring and baseplate(sometimes).
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Yours Truly 2095 said:
Wolff.and other companies make replacement springs for mags and guns.
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Huh. Son of a bitch. I've been aware of Wolff for a while, but I never looked into what they make beyond recoil springs and mainsprings.
Romulus augustulus said:
I never heard of replacing barrels until i heard some PRS guy preaching a sermon on how .243 will "shoot out" a barrel at 1,000 rounds and it must be replaced. Meanwhile my Shooting mentor's .243 hunting rifle is 40 years old and has been shot a shit ton (the man lives to shoot) and it'll still hit steel at 300 yards every time.
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I was always told to keep an eye on barrels because they'll have to go eventually, but they're not a frequent replacement. Just to glance down there every few thousand rounds to see if anything looks majorly wrong. I know I'm going to have to replace several when my grandfather dies because he's got a few rifles he's basically converted to smoothbores.
 
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Yours Truly 2095 said:
You likely can. Wolff.and other companies make replacement springs for mags and guns. Pretty cheap too. I have some for some magazines for old ass guns where the mags are almost unobtainable.
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I agree that keeping magazine rebuild parts on hand for rare or expensive magazines is a good idea. I also think treating magazines as expendable parts is a good idea, especially if it's for a firearm that one uses a lot.

For me those are all pistol mags. I don't bother with rebuilding mags for the AR platforms. I have so many that if one fails and I can't quickly fix it, I toss it and grab another. Plus those are so inexpensive now that rebuilding them seems a waste of time.
 
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Friedrich Hayek's Ghost said:
Huh. Son of a bitch. I've been aware of Wolff for a while, but I never looked into what they make beyond recoil springs and mainsprings.

I was always told to keep an eye on barrels because they'll have to go eventually, but they're not a frequent replacement. Just to glance down there every few thousand rounds to see if anything looks majorly wrong. I know I'm going to have to replace several when my grandfather dies because he's got a few rifles he's basically converted to smoothbores.
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Barrels only really wear out in the first few inches of barrel past the chamber, and only really for over bore cartridges like the quarter bores and smaller. and "burnt out" barrels to most of these guys means the groups open up to over 1 MOA.

I guess sure if your some super duper PRS champion that's gonna hurt you but...... for practical use? that's fine. that's more than fine.

and burn out isn't much of a concern if you are not trying to get ultra fast velocities either, especially on .30 cal and higher. at .35 cal and above its basically impossible to burn a barrel, even with hot loads. .375 H&H magnum is the best Magnum and it's barrel life is theoretically in the multiple tens of thousands. a beat to shit M1903 springer will still probably shoot well as long as the barrel's been kept clean. on a new .30-06 i think you'd have to be intentionally trying to burn a barrel. heavier projectiles seem to slow down the wear too somehow, IDK the science.

I think on .357 mag the number quoted by the GIGN on their MR73's was 100,000 full house magnums before accuracy started to decrease
 
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Romulus augustulus said:
Barrels only really wear out in the first few inches of barrel past the chamber, and only really for over bore cartridges like the quarter bores and smaller. and "burnt out" barrels to most of these guys means the groups open up to over 1 MOA.

I guess sure if your some super duper PRS champion that's gonna hurt you but...... for practical use? that's fine. that's more than fine.

and burn out isn't much of a concern if you are not trying to get ultra fast velocities either, especially on .30 cal and higher. at .35 cal and above its basically impossible to burn a barrel, even with hot loads. .375 H&H magnum is the best Magnum and it's barrel life is theoretically in the multiple tens of thousands. a beat to shit M1903 springer will still probably shoot well as long as the barrel's been kept clean. on a new .30-06 i think you'd have to be intentionally trying to burn a barrel. heavier projectiles seem to slow down the wear too somehow, IDK the science.

I think on .357 mag the number quoted by the GIGN on their MR73's was 100,000 full house magnums before accuracy started to decrease
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Yeah although ultra hot rounds like .277 fury will kill barrels faster than stuff like 7.62x51 and 5.56mm.

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