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which one? pro-mag's 72 round drum is a direct copy of the chinese one except in polymer and also not made by pro-mag (they outsourced it to state factory 36 and import them. promag's square drum mags are actually made by them.
oh my bad clubby it's a 15 round drum in 12ga. tangentially related; you or anyone else here ever mess around with magpul's MP5 drums? i almost want one but also don't want to be haunted by the ghost of like a hundred and twenty bucks edit: it's either the drum or HKparts titanium nitride gold mags i am attracted to that shine

edit 2: i just remembered MDarms patented a double stack saiga mag, did nothing with it, and i'm now mad and sad
 
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magpul's MP5 drum
yeah i have one for funsies and works fine on both an MP5A2 and MP5-PDW. i haven't tried it on an SD but i assume it would work alright too. the problem is that it is incredibly annoying to use because it blocks the use of the forearm or VFG (or makes i really awkward), and i dislike holding the gun by the mag in most cases since it has a chance of messing with the feed. it does work well if i swap the forearm with a railed version and stick a VFG side-ways HK21 style, but even that's not ideal with knuckle clearance issues.
 
the problem is that it is incredibly annoying to use because it blocks the use of the forearm or VFG (or makes i really awkward), and i dislike holding the gun by the mag in most cases since it has a chance of messing with the feed. it does work well if i swap the forearm with a railed version and stick a VFG side-ways HK21 style, but even that's not ideal with knuckle clearance issues.
good to know. i've got the wide mlok forend and a light/pressure switch on the right side as seen here and even if the drum is for smiles and laughs i don't want access to that being a pain. maybe i'll go with a couple of 40rnd ETS mags for half of what magpul wants. their 30 rounders have worked fine as far as range mags go.
buhhh.webp
 

Remember these aussie faggots who punked brandon herrara by doing a video with him but being faggots about it? They just released another video about guns. It's probably gay and retarded idk i haven't watched it.
Awh sweet some pretentious foreigner shitting on my hobbies! can't wait for this one!

...huh, Something tells me this isn't entirely in good faith but i dunno guys...
makes you think.webp

edit: linking to the gen. guntuber thread, I took a minor scroll through the transcript and posted a couple screenshots i found interesting:
 
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In my 1911 magazine journey, and thank you for everyone here who gave advice, I found a video from Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn in which they state leaving your magazine loaded wears the springs out and is really tough on the life of it. I was a bit surprised to see such well renowned guys say some bullshit like this. I understand they are trying to make other products look bad, but it also makes yours looks bad as you're implicitly saying yours also can't handle it, but it'll handle it for longer. I wonder where these things come from. It would be interesting for someone like Fuddbusters to track down the origins of fudd lore.

 
I wonder where these things come from.
well, a poor temper (too low temperature) on older steel formulations would often have an unpredictable plastic yield or even become brittle through work hardening and take a "set" which permanently deforms the spring at an inappropriate elastic point. pre-stressed steel going through annealing and tempering takes a large bite out of the ultimate strength of a spring beyond this yield point and as long as the spring isn't compressed or expanded beyond the limit, it should never reach a point of losing strength or taking a set. you can look up young's modulus if you want the math end of things.

chrome silicate spring steel is virtually immune to this sort of thing, assuming the spring is properly made and used in an appropriate way. even very cheap mags can use this alloy since it's like $0.30-0.80 per foot depending on gauge and if it's enameled, et c, and the typical 1911 magazine spring is around 18 inches long.
 
I don't think I've ever thought about spring wear in magazines. It's a box with a spring in it, and springs wear out eventually. All mechanical parts do, at some point. Do people not consider mags consumable parts like they do recoil springs or barrels? I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
 
I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
Wolff(gunsprings.com) offers separate magazine springs, and there are rebuild kits with a new follower, spring and baseplate(sometimes).
It's when the spring is considered a six cent part that it's not tempered correctly and takes a set.
 
I don't think I've ever thought about spring wear in magazines. It's a box with a spring in it, and springs wear out eventually. All mechanical parts do, at some point. Do people not consider mags consumable parts like they do recoil springs or barrels? I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
You likely can. Wolff.and other companies make replacement springs for mags and guns. Pretty cheap too. I have some for some magazines for old ass guns where the mags are almost unobtainable.


Edit: I'm not deleting my post. TOTAL WOLFF SHILLING
 
I don't think I've ever thought about spring wear in magazines. It's a box with a spring in it, and springs wear out eventually. All mechanical parts do, at some point. Do people not consider mags consumable parts like they do recoil springs or barrels? I just wish I could get the springs separately, rather than having to replace the whole mag, but I get why. I doubt it's economical to ship a six cent part, and most mags are inexpensive enough that it's not too big a deal.
most people don't consider anything a wear part. To be honest, I never heard of replacing barrels until i heard some PRS guy preaching a sermon on how .243 will "shoot out" a barrel at 1,000 rounds and it must be replaced. Meanwhile my Shooting mentor's .243 hunting rifle is 40 years old and has been shot a shit ton (the man lives to shoot) and it'll still hit steel at 300 yards every time.

point being, most people don't replace something unless it's broken and don't ever think about replacing anything to begin with.
 
Wolff(gunsprings.com) offers separate magazine springs, and there are rebuild kits with a new follower, spring and baseplate(sometimes).

Wolff.and other companies make replacement springs for mags and guns.
Huh. Son of a bitch. I've been aware of Wolff for a while, but I never looked into what they make beyond recoil springs and mainsprings.
I never heard of replacing barrels until i heard some PRS guy preaching a sermon on how .243 will "shoot out" a barrel at 1,000 rounds and it must be replaced. Meanwhile my Shooting mentor's .243 hunting rifle is 40 years old and has been shot a shit ton (the man lives to shoot) and it'll still hit steel at 300 yards every time.
I was always told to keep an eye on barrels because they'll have to go eventually, but they're not a frequent replacement. Just to glance down there every few thousand rounds to see if anything looks majorly wrong. I know I'm going to have to replace several when my grandfather dies because he's got a few rifles he's basically converted to smoothbores.
 
You likely can. Wolff.and other companies make replacement springs for mags and guns. Pretty cheap too. I have some for some magazines for old ass guns where the mags are almost unobtainable.
I agree that keeping magazine rebuild parts on hand for rare or expensive magazines is a good idea. I also think treating magazines as expendable parts is a good idea, especially if it's for a firearm that one uses a lot.

For me those are all pistol mags. I don't bother with rebuilding mags for the AR platforms. I have so many that if one fails and I can't quickly fix it, I toss it and grab another. Plus those are so inexpensive now that rebuilding them seems a waste of time.
 
Huh. Son of a bitch. I've been aware of Wolff for a while, but I never looked into what they make beyond recoil springs and mainsprings.

I was always told to keep an eye on barrels because they'll have to go eventually, but they're not a frequent replacement. Just to glance down there every few thousand rounds to see if anything looks majorly wrong. I know I'm going to have to replace several when my grandfather dies because he's got a few rifles he's basically converted to smoothbores.
Barrels only really wear out in the first few inches of barrel past the chamber, and only really for over bore cartridges like the quarter bores and smaller. and "burnt out" barrels to most of these guys means the groups open up to over 1 MOA.

I guess sure if your some super duper PRS champion that's gonna hurt you but...... for practical use? that's fine. that's more than fine.

and burn out isn't much of a concern if you are not trying to get ultra fast velocities either, especially on .30 cal and higher. at .35 cal and above its basically impossible to burn a barrel, even with hot loads. .375 H&H magnum is the best Magnum and it's barrel life is theoretically in the multiple tens of thousands. a beat to shit M1903 springer will still probably shoot well as long as the barrel's been kept clean. on a new .30-06 i think you'd have to be intentionally trying to burn a barrel. heavier projectiles seem to slow down the wear too somehow, IDK the science.

I think on .357 mag the number quoted by the GIGN on their MR73's was 100,000 full house magnums before accuracy started to decrease
 
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