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Will the 4chan hack be the end of it?

  • Yes, goodbye forever 4chan

    Votes: 1,031 18.5%
  • No, they will rise from the ashes, stronger than ever

    Votes: 343 6.2%
  • This will rattle them but it will be forgotten about next week

    Votes: 2,323 41.7%
  • I am just here for the janny phonebooking

    Votes: 1,093 19.6%
  • What the fuck is 4chan

    Votes: 218 3.9%
  • Yotsuba&!

    Votes: 569 10.2%

  • Total voters
    5,577
Dropping the e-mail verification and lowering the initial post timeout to 2 minutes from 15 minutes is the smartest decision they've made over this ordeal. Who would've thought that spammers would still bypass that shit and that it would only discourage other people from posting?
 
Any word on the weird Roy Jay stuff happening on /x/? I remember the original thread before the hack and now that people are talking about it now it seems like there's some level of astroturfing happening on the subject.
it kind of gives me blue eisenhower november vibes, except the subject is so specific that it makes it somewhat interesting. this is probably just some obscure comedian that had limited reach because the only people who would remember him are far older than what 4chans current demographic is, not to mention him seeming to only be active on euro television. you could make a case like this for a lot of different people, just hit "random" on wikipedia. despite that, though, i can't really shake the weird vibes im getting from the images and videos that have been going around of that dude. i can't tell if it's black clown makeup on his eyes or whatever but they look creepy as fuck.
 
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it kind of gives me blue eisenhower november vibes, except the subject is so specific that it makes it somewhat interesting. this is probably just some obscure comedian that had limited reach because the only people who would remember him are far older than what 4chans current demographic is, not to mention him seeming to only be active on euro television. you could make a case like this for a lot of different people, just hit "random" on wikipedia. despite that, though, i can't really shake the weird vibes im getting from the images and videos that have been going around of that dude. i can't tell if it's black clown makeup on his eyes or whatever but they look creepy as fuck.
Here's an actual recording of him on the Bob Monkhouse show in 1983.
I think the reason he isn't remembered very much is he kind of blew.
 
Dropping the e-mail verification and lowering the initial post timeout to 2 minutes from 15 minutes is the smartest decision they've made over this ordeal. Who would've thought that spammers would still bypass that shit and that it would only discourage other people from posting?
Won't change much it's still prospering ground for bots to do their ragebaits for third-worlders. Troons are happy when anons suffer.
 
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For anyone who wants to know about one of /a/s schizos who's also some how a janny meet the Kensuke spammer. He spams Eva threads, the catalogue and if people point out how his threads are spam you get instant deleted.

this like the 5th time fe flooded the catalog with that exact image
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Dropping the e-mail verification and lowering the initial post timeout to 2 minutes from 15 minutes is the smartest decision they've made over this ordeal. Who would've thought that spammers would still bypass that shit and that it would only discourage other people from posting?
anon, i think you are talking about another chan.
unless they dropped email verification for a few boards like /vg/, many IP's have been flagged for abuse and need email to verify.
Troons are happy when anons suffer.
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Select /all/ at the end of the list. Then you will see the difference.


See
1- He declared that you do not have to believe in Christ to be saved.
The claim exaggerates his position. He hasn’t denied the necessity of Christ for salvation, but has emphasized God’s mercy and the possibility of salvation for those outside the Church. The Church still teaches that explicit faith in Christ is the normative path to salvation. Pope Francis didn’t introduce this idea, it’s rooted in Catholic teaching. The Church has long held that those who, through no fault of their own, don’t know Christ but live according to their conscience can be saved by God’s grace, as taught in Vatican II (modern) and by theologians like Aquinas(traditional).

He’s not saying belief in Christ is irrelevant but that God’s mercy extends to those who haven’t heard the Gospel.

The idea draws from biblical passages like Romans 2:14–16, where St. Paul suggests that Gentiles who follow their conscience “show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts”.

More proof of this:
Early Church Fathers:
St. Clement of Alexandria: He suggested that God’s truth was partially revealed to pagans, allowing them to respond to divine grace implicitly.
St. Justin Martyr: He argued that those who lived according to the “Logos” before Christ, like Socrates, could be considered “Christians before Christ” and thus saved by God’s grace.

You also have this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_of_desire
also called baptism by desire, is a doctrine according to which a person is able to attain the grace of justification through faith, perfect contrition and the desire for baptism, without the water baptism having been received.
The Catholic Church teaches in the Catechism of the Catholic Church that "baptism is necessary for salvation". It also states the desire for baptism "brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament"
While some fringes within Catholicism hold that water is necessary for baptism, with no exceptions, the Catholic Church has traditionally and formally recognized baptism of desire


2- He declared that not accepting rapefugees into your countries is a sin.
He’s framed rejection of migrants as contrary to Christian charity, but there’s no evidence he’s declared it a sin in a canonical sense. His rhetoric focuses on moral responsibility, not legal mandates, leaving room for prudential judgment on immigration policy.
What he called a sin, is the indifference toward migrants, not the rejection of them. It is not specific to any policies.
He did say that rejecting migrants "violate the moral law", which implies moral failing, but never explicitly say "sin".

In catechetical terms, a sin requires deliberate intent and grave matter. Francis hasn’t formally declared rejecting migrants a sin in this technical sense, such as in a magisterial document or ex cathedra statement.


3- He reversed policy on blessing sodomitical unions.
Completely false.
He permitted blessings for individuals, but not the unions themselves.
What Fiducia Supplicans actually says:

Approved by Pope Francis, the document allows priests to offer spontaneous, non-liturgical blessings to same-sex couples and others in “irregular” unions (e.g., divorced and remarried) as a pastoral gesture of God’s mercy.
It explicitly states that these blessings “do not constitute an approval of the union”.
The document reaffirms that marriage is exclusively between a man and a woman, per Catholic doctrine
Francis clarified in a 2023 interview: “To bless a homosexual-type union… goes against the law of the Church. But to bless each person, why not?” (La Stampa, Dec. 18, 2023). This underscores the focus on individuals.


4- He injected himself into American politics every opportunity he got, to try and turn conservative catholics against Trump.
Not sure what this has to do with pro-troon policy. Also, his comments reflect his global advocacy, not a targeted political strategy.
There is plenty of reasons to be against Trump as a Catholic or as a conservative. For example, scamming his own boomer base with crypto, or giving refuge to rapists like the Tate Brothers.

5- He broke bread with unrepentent transsexual prostitutes.
This is missing a ton of context by itself, and I would claim saying "broke bread" is scandalous because it implies Eucharistic acts.
Pope Francis supported a priest in Rome who provided food and aid to transgender prostitutes, mostly from South America, during the COVID-19 lockdown, these people faced extreme poverty, and some turned to prostitution for survival.

Francis met with those transgender prostitutes to offer pastoral care, consistent with his focus on mercy and as part of his pastoral outreach. I'm not seeing any issue with this. What they are doing is wrong, but it doesn't mean that they don't deserve any mercy from Christ. Bringing those people closer to Christ and to repent is the goal. I don't see the issue with this

Mercy =/= endorsement.
Pastoral care is not an endorsement of someone's lifestyles, this is also something that is done for prisoners. As Christ did with sinners.
The Church teaches mercy for all, regardless of their struggles.
"The Church welcomes everyone, but does not approve every choice" Is what he said himself about this

Jesus prioritized ministering to sinners and outcasts (tax collectors, prostitutes) without endorsing their sins (Luke 5:30–32, John 8:1–11). Pastoral care reflects this, meeting people where they are to offer mercy and hope (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 545).
Criticizing Pope Francis for this, is the same as retroactively judging Christ for doing pastoral care too.

The Church teaches that encountering God's mercy precedes repentance, pastoral care creates a bridge for dialogue and conversion by showing unconditional love.
Every person, regardless of their circumstances, is made in God’s image (Genesis 1:27) and deserves compassion.

And the best for last:
6- He spent the last ten years using his global megaphone to declare that every moral principle held sacred by every Christian throughout history is actually wrong, and the atheists were right the whole time.
Citation needed.


To add to this:
a). Catholicism will never be some "larping crusade kill all troon religion", it is rooted in Christ's teachings of mercy and love (Catechism, 1822, before Vatican II), and it's better to criticize Catholicism itself if your issue is with that, than criticize Pope Francis for acting according to the Catholic Church and Christ's teaching.
b). Most articles done about Pope Francis are made dishonestly by jews, they will praise him, claim that he is doing more than he is actually doing (more as in, trespass pastoral care to something blashemous and heretical), and a lot of people will fall for this.
If you are Catholic, you are being manipulated to hate Pope Francis.
If you are not Catholic, you just hate Catholicism, which is fine if this is what you believe, but nothing Pope Francis is doing goes against the Church.
 
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Jesus prioritized ministering to sinners and outcasts (tax collectors, prostitutes) without endorsing their sins (Luke 5:30–32, John 8:1–11). Pastoral care reflects this, meeting people where they are to offer mercy and hope (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 545).
He also described "transgender ideology" as "the ugliest danger of our time."

 
Why not say "prostitution"? I see the term "sex work" used often lately (mostly by libs) and I just don't get it.
I think it's to humanize them further, I went back and forth with prostitute and sex worker because officially this is what the Catholic Church calls them now, even if I'm not totally sold on it.
 
Better post this in the pope thread https://kiwifarms.st/threads/pope-francis-is-dead.217793/

The main problem I have with this pope is that he probably was the worst possible man for this position during the mass migration in Europe in the last 10 years. The Polish lad would have probably stayed neutral and the German grandpa was known to be very conservative.

I think it's to humanize them further, I went back and forth with prostitute and sex worker because officially this is what the Catholic Church calls them now, even if I'm not totally sold on it.
You should google who coined the term sex worker as alternative to prostitute.
 
I think it's to humanize them further, I went back and forth with prostitute and sex worker because officially this is what the Catholic Church calls them now, even if I'm not totally sold on it.
What's the point? "Prostitution" is a mostly neutral term. It simply describes what a person is doing. I don't think it needs to be replaced.
 
Not sure if anyone would be interested by it at this point, since it's a week old.
The main problem I have with this pope is that he probably was the worst possible man for this position during the mass migration in Europe in the last 10 years. The Polish lad would have probably stayed neutral and the German grandpa was known to be very conservative.
I agree with this, I think Pope Francis didn't see the whole picture about the mass migration going on in Europe, but I don't think he caused it, or could have prevented it anyway.
We'll get many Pope that will mess up outside their obligations, but saying he is burning in hell for this is retarded.

I edited my post to remove any mention of sex work after googling where the term comes from.

What's the point? "Prostitution" is a mostly neutral term. It simply describes what a person is doing. I don't think it needs to be replaced.
Yeah I agree, I was just using the word that was being used in my research without thinking too much about it.
 
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anon, i think you are talking about another chan.
unless they dropped email verification for a few boards like /vg/, many IP's have been flagged for abuse and need email to verify
Nope, called someone a faggot on /g/ from my laptop at work on my home IP, didn't use it for posting on 4chan before. Only got hit with a 2 minute wait which verifies the 4chan_pass cookie for the entire site. Maybe I get lenient treatment for using a Polish IP range that wasn't abused since that snippet of code popped up in the leaks.
 
2- He declared that not accepting rapefugees into your countries is a sin.
I don't know much about the history of Christianity, but wasn't the early church all about ignoring the material world and suffering hardship as redemption for your sins? Like pain is actually a good thing because it brings you closer to Christ etc. It seems like they had all this shit pretty well worked out in the middle ages and it's been getting dumber ever since.
 
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Do these fucking retards not know what 4chanX is and that deleted posts can still be seen?
He knows but doesn't care. Honestly I know him from other threads. He tends to camp threads for shit he likes and either shills for them fucking hard or shits them up. The common thing is he does it when mods are not around and he loves abusing the 15 min ip block.

I want to know who the fuck said they vent jannies because obviously he's a fucking retard. Anyway I've been testing to see how fast he starts deleting shit.
 
I don't know much about the history of Christianity, but wasn't the early church all about ignoring the material world and suffering hardship as redemption for your sins? Like pain is actually a good thing because it brings you closer to Christ etc. It seems like they had all this shit pretty well worked out in the middle ages and it's been getting dumber ever since.
The idea that “pain is actually a good thing” for redemption is a partial truth. Early Christians saw suffering as a way to unite with Christ’s cross, but redemption comes through Christ’s sacrifice, not personal pain alone, Charity and community were equally central.
The early Church balanced asceticism with engagement in the world. While martyrs and ascetics embraced suffering (St. Ignatius of Antioch for example), Christians also built communities, cared for the poor, and affirmed creation's goodness.

Suffering was redemptive when united to Christ's cross, but charity was paramout (1 Corinthians 13:13).
The Didache (1st Century) emphasize love and service, not just pain.
The incarnation underscores the material world's sanctity: The First Apology by St, Justin Martyr (2nd Century), celebrated creation's goodness because God became flesh.

Pope Francis's actions reflect the early Church's balance of mercy and truth. + Suffering has to be done by yourself, not force others to suffer because you think it's good for them even if it might be.
 
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