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For two years Deion and the media were trying to psyop everyone into believing that Shedeur Sanders was this franchise 1st round QB. Shedeur didn't go in the 1st round, he fell to the 5th, in a draft where the QB class was extremely weak, this is just so funny on so many levels.
 
Here's an article on a few Shedeur nterviews.

Shedeur Sanders

Let’s have an honest discussion about Shedeur Sanderssince there doesn’t seem to be a lot of that out there in the aftermath of Sanders falling first through Thursday night’s first round, then Friday night’s second and third rounds, all the way to the fifth round Saturday.

This starts with teams’ evaluations of Sanders as a player. The story we had on Tuesday on the quarterback class as a whole covered it. If you read that, you know it wasn’t easy to find coaches or scouts who viewed the Colorado quarterback as a first-round talent coming into the draft. He’s not a great athlete. He didn’t show great arm talent. He had bad habits in taking unnecessary sacks and bailing out of the back of the pocket. He had trouble playing on time in general and did things off-schedule that weren’t going to translate to the NFL.

That didn’t make him hopeless. But it did mean teams thought he needed a lot of work and, without overwhelming physical ability, he was going to have to find a fit to go first round.

Clearly, that fit didn’t exist for Sanders this year the way it did for Bo Nix last year.

So that covers why he didn’t go in the first (or even second) round. After that, it became about everything else. Once you get into the end of Day 2 and Day 3, players are seen as depth or developmental pieces. In the beginning, most have to grind just to ensure that their keycard will work the next day. Getting an increased opportunity to prove yourself has to be earned—and it takes resolve to keep building past the self-preservation point to eventually get a chance to compete to be a significant piece of a team on game day.

Before that happens, Sanders will be a backup quarterback. Teams generally want backups at that position to blend in with the furniture. It’s why guys such as Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick had trouble finding jobs, and why guys like Cam Newton and Jay Cutler struggled to extend their careers. You’ll put up with a lot of things that might come along with your starter. But most teams would rather have an anonymous guy who’ll stay out of headlines as backup QB than anyone who creates noise, whether it’s his own fault or not.

Maybe Sanders can be that guy, and maybe he will fade into the background and be supportive of whoever starts for the Cleveland Browns in the fall. He’s just never been that before, and his handling of the predraft process didn’t indicate to teams that he’d adjust to it well.

We do have a couple of examples.

A lot of times in combine meetings, teams will have a player’s worst plays ready for him when he enters the room and, along those lines, one had a particularly rough interception teed up for Sanders in Indianapolis. When asked to explain it, Sanders didn’t take blame. And as they dove deeper into it, and how it might relate to the NFL level, Sanders simply concluded that maybe he and the staff he was talking to might not be a match.

Ahead of another visit, he got an install with mistakes intentionally planted in it—done to see if a quarterback would catch them. Sanders didn’t catch them. A coach called him on it, and the resulting exchange wasn’t pretty.

And I think this is why teams saw Sanders carrying out what his father, Colorado coach Deion Sanders, said he would in trying to steer himself away from certain places. The idea, for a top pick, isn’t the worst concept. It’s something Eli Manning did a generation ago. The problem is that Sanders wasn’t considered the prospect he was built up to be by the people who matter—the ones who were doing the picking over the weekend.

So this approach to the draft process—handled like a high-first-round pick might handle his process (no combine, no on-field all-star game work, etc.)—hurt Sanders with some teams that might’ve considered taking him. Day 2 and 3 prospects generally have to impress everyone, because there are so many variables ahead of those slots that you never know who’s going to be in position to take you.

Instead, in this case, a lot of teams either had a tough experience with Sanders or didn’t have an experience with him at all. Which made it tough to spend a pick on him, because if you were looking for a developmental quarterback who’d be content to slide into the shadows and work at his craft, this didn’t seem like the guy.

Now, he’ll have to be that guy in Cleveland.

The hope, of course, would be that on his road to get there, he’s taken the right lessons and resolved to put his head down and work his way out of this hole in a new city with a new set of people around him (and his dad absent), rather than feeling like the victim some folks are making him out to be.

Some people clearly didn’t trust he’d do that.

The good news is he’ll now get the chance to prove them wrong.
Apparently he nignogged too close to the sun. He prepared for interviews like he was already anointed as a top QB. As it turns out, it takes a bit more than anointing yourself (with the help of ESPN) as a top guy for teams to believe it.
 
It is a very strong possibility that Sanders won’t even make the Browns’ final roster. They got a big QB room not even including the massage handjob guy. And clearly they thought more highly of Gabriel
If I'm right and the fact that Stefanski and Berry passed on the opportunity six times already and looked, let's say, less than enthusiastic upon drafting him means Cleveland Sanders is a Haslam pick, they'll cut Kenny Pickett before they cut Sanders.
 
See what changing the owner and name can get you?

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It is a very strong possibility that Sanders won’t even make the Browns’ final roster. They got a big QB room not even including the massage handjob guy. And clearly they thought more highly of Gabriel
I mean, they have 2 reasonable options if they're attempting to be competitive this year.
- Option 1: By far the safest option. It puts the best QB on the field and Pickett serves as a buffer so they're not in a position to throw a late-round QB into a game.

QB1 - Flacco
QB2 - Pickett
QB3 - Winner of Gabriel v Sanders competition


- Option 2: Putting a lot of faith in Flacco's health, but allows the team to try and develop both rookies. Plus it allows the Browns to save some face by not immediately throwing away a draft pick. Even though they'd still be throwing away a draft pick because they traded for Pickett, but they're retarded so they probably won't view it that way. (I view this as the most likely option. I can not envision Haslem letting them cut Shedeur and the coaching staff obviously likes Dillon Gabriel more.)

QB1 - Flacco
QB2 - Gabriel or Sanders
QB3 - Gabriel or Sanders

Technically there's an option 3 if they're pants on head retarded and want to win the Arch Manning sweepstakes for the lulz.
- Option 3
QB1 - Pickett
QB2 - Gabriel or Sanders
QB3 - Gabriel or Sanders
If I'm right and the fact that Stefanski and Berry passed on the opportunity six times already and looked, let's say, less than enthusiastic upon drafting him means Cleveland Sanders is a Haslam pick, they'll cut Kenny Pickett before they cut Sanders.
Schizo theory incoming. Stefanski and Berry are on the hot seat. I wonder if there are any coaching candidates that'd leap at the opportunity. Especially one who'd love to coach a "star" QB he's been with since high school.

I'll admit it's batshit insane, but it's exactly the type of spectacle Jimmy Haslam and Deion Sanders would jump onto. Haslam because he has brain damage and doesn't live in the same reality as the rest of us. Deion because Haslam would gladly hand over the keys to the kingdom and Deion is nignog enough to take them. It'd result in such a clownshow and potentially hurt the shield enough for the NFL to step in slap some hands down.

Now if you ask me why Haslam would let Deion run the franchise, I've got no idea. Logic dictates it's because he thinks it'd turn the franchise into a winner, but I legitimately don't think winning means the same thing to him as everybody else. I don't even believe it's just to get eyes on the Browns either. I think he's just incredibly gullible and has extremely poorly impulse control.
 
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Putting a lot of faith in Flacco's health, but allows the team to try and develop both rookies. Plus it allows the Browns to save some face by not immediately throwing away a draft pick. Even though they'd still be throwing away a draft pick because they traded for Pickett, but they're retarded so they probably won't view it that way.
The Browns are a clown car of an organization. Just four years ago they were finally relevant for the first time in their (reactivated) existence, hot new QB, beat the shit out of the geriatric Steelers in the Wild Card, and they've fallen off the cliff to where now they're drafting two completely opposite rookie QBs that they're somehow supposed to develop at the same time while also probably starting a 40 year old Flacco as QB1. I know the new Browns have always been a dumpster fire, but they were the kind of dumpster fire that you would feel sad for most of the time, rooting for them to get back on their feet.

First the fans have to deal with 1-31 Hue Jackson, and now they have to deal with whoever the hell decided it was a good idea to throw 230 million dollars down the drain completely burning the team alive. At this rate Ohio is gonna be pure Steelers and Bengals country the way this team seems determined to obliterate any possible good will they have. All you had to do was throw the fans a bone and draft Will Howard to compete for QB2, hometown Buckeye, no potential character issues, but nope, this is the reality we get instead. At this point fire the owner and every single piece of management, this is S-Class ineptitude.
 
First the fans have to deal with 1-31 Hue Jackson
ROFL. Imagine going 0-16 and NOT firing the head coach. Shit was so hype. Them tying their first game (against Pittsburgh no less) and winning their third after Baker entered the game. I vaguely remember free Bud Light whenever Cleveland got their first win? Then Hue Jackson getting fired mid-season and immediately hopping over to the Bengals that same season.

In retrospect, Hue Jackson may be a cryptololcow. The Bengals stunt, him trading the farm for an old Carson Palmer ,after protocow Al Davis died, (who was a bum with the Raiders, but went on to have a revival in Arizona, LOL), going 0-16, and claiming he was losing on purpose because Haslam told him to. Talk about the Peter principle. He was what Eric Bienemy would have evolved into if anyone ever gave him the reigns.
 
The Browns are a clown car of an organization. Just four years ago they were finally relevant for the first time in their (reactivated) existence, hot new QB, beat the shit out of the geriatric Steelers in the Wild Card, and they've fallen off the cliff to where now they're drafting two completely opposite rookie QBs that they're somehow supposed to develop at the same time while also probably starting a 40 year old Flacco as QB1. I know the new Browns have always been a dumpster fire, but they were the kind of dumpster fire that you would feel sad for most of the time, rooting for them to get back on their feet.

First the fans have to deal with 1-31 Hue Jackson, and now they have to deal with whoever the hell decided it was a good idea to throw 230 million dollars down the drain completely burning the team alive. At this rate Ohio is gonna be pure Steelers and Bengals country the way this team seems determined to obliterate any possible good will they have. All you had to do was throw the fans a bone and draft Will Howard to compete for QB2, hometown Buckeye, no potential character issues, but nope, this is the reality we get instead. At this point fire the owner and every single piece of management, this is S-Class ineptitude.
I live in the Rust Belt and have a few friends that are aficianodos of the shit coloured team, I never miss a chance to rub it in. Easily one of the worst run teams in US/Canadian pro sports.
 
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No one tells them to be humble because they all actually accomplished something. The younger Sanders had never won anything of significance--not even a bowl game.

Deion, while being an incredible distraction, was probably in the top five of most physically gifted players in NFL history, and he had an insane work ethic. There are stories of him buying one of the first portable DVD players and thousands of dollars worth of batteries to be able to watch more film on the team plane.

Teammates also hated him because he was a diva, wouldn't practice and behaved as if he was above the team.

This is one my favorites. Partially because A.J. Hawk was a Packer. Partially because the 2006 NFL draft was the first draft I was seriously deep into the draft process.

One thing to remember about that Packers squad; they didn't use toradol like the other teams did. So AJ was out there balling the way he did without being amped up on probably the best pain killer on the planet. I remember when he mentioned that on McAfee and everyone was astonished by it. Like holy shit you were THAT good?

NGL a Tim Couch jersey would slap right now
Tim Couch is woefully underrated by Browns fans. He destroyed his body to get that hunk of shit franchise to the playoffs.
 
hilariously terrible take by man who has almost certainly never watched a Colorado Buffaloes game
All his sports takes are pretty comical, like someone that vaguely knows about sports in the abstract from watching the morning shows, and maybe even puts ESPN on in the background sometimes, but has never actually watched a full game.

It was cracking me up watching him butcher most of the Eagles names at the WH Ceremony the other day, and have clearly no idea what he was reading when listing off the team's accomplishments on the year. Also being really homoerotic about Saquon.
 
I want to thank the Browns organization and for once it's not for being a retarded clownshow everyone can laugh at. Eagles beat reporter and insider Reuben Frank joked about the Eagles taking a flyer on Sanders if he fell during a post first round podcast. I laughed until I saw Shadeur sliding to the 5th.

It was night 3 and pick 145 was coming up. Would they really do it? Would the value proposition be too high to pass up? The organization is known for developing QBs. Get Sanders looking good in camp and a couple preseason games and then trade him to a desperate team in Week 7 for a 4rth, maybe 3rd? Howie values draft picks, even future ones, a lot because he has the job security afforded to very few GMs.

Good god. They're gonna do it aren't they? Thank you Jimmy Haslam for forcing your team to get another lockerroom cancer at gunpoint. Other trustworthy Eagles insiders have said there were rumblings that the Eagles were going to take him at 145 and they did end up taking a developmental QB in the 6th. Tanner "The Mormon Missile" McKee has getting some buzz around the league and the Birds want to make sure the stable is full if they can move him.
 
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I was super concerned about the 49ers not taking any early OL picks, but according to the autismo film study channel I follow they had planned on taking either or both of the 2 picks the Raiders had right before SF at 98 and 99, with SF at #100, fucking hell...
 
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