Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.6%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 55 12.0%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.9%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 153 33.4%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 110 24.0%

  • Total voters
    458
Russ supposedly has an account here. He knows, or should have known, that the signup process never asks for a name. I doubt Josh could tell him the real name of more than a handful of users that have ever used the site, not counting the cows who come here to make fools of themselves or the easily tracked username hall of shame retards.
 
Looks to me he's planning to take back his promise to not call any witnesses.

Good. Then the stipulation is voided and Hardin can subpoena the other Greers again. Funsies!
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Just a reminder that if the hail mary pass is somehow caught and the responsible users are identified and dragged into this mess...the end result is Greer now has two more lawyers he needs to deal with when already he can't make his deadlines just responding to one.
Russ probably thinks Hardin being "defender of the farms" means he represents any and all kiwifarmers collectively
 
This one just boggles my mind

Why is Russ suddenly pushing and pushing hard for a discovery he should have asked for years ago? Why now? And why such a aggressive tone?

Give me the deets and give it to me naow or else!

Makes even less sense then his other shitty ramblings. I am still super pissed off at how Russtard can just keep filing shit that makes no sense and serves no purpose and do it for free while Jersh has to pay each and every time to respond to it.

Don't give me Jersh gets fee's shit, Russ has no money and will never have money. Every cent Jersh sinks into this hole is gone forever. Well not forever it does pay for Hardin Porsche lease but still....much anger towards the system...urge to fedpost rising.
 
What about this one? I feel it sums the case up nicely.

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At first glance, I thought I saw "extraordinarily tarded" and thought it was cool. "Extraordinarily tardy" is still cool, but not as cool.
Why is Russ suddenly pushing and pushing hard for a discovery he should have asked for years ago? Why now? And why such a aggressive tone?
Towards the end of last year, wasn't he aiming for discovery to occur over a day or something and ready for trial in February? I'm glad how everything in the case has progressed so much.
 
Why is Russ suddenly pushing and pushing hard for a discovery he should have asked for years ago? Why now? And why such a aggressive tone?
Meeting is Tuesday. Only thing I can think of is he's trying last minute to look like he's taking this seriously (he very much isn't) or trying to set up an excuse to try and delay again. "But judgykins I'm a poh' widdle retard and the mean ol' lawyerman refused to give me what I asked for, and I even gave him a whole 50% of the time he's entitled to by law and everything!"
 
I don't want to go into a detailed critique, (Fuck you, Shitlips. I ain't fixing your discovery for you) but this is the most pathetic and fucked up discovery I have ever seen. It's just wrong on multiple levels.

This is further into a case than Russ has ever gotten, so he gets some slack there. But all that slack gets erased because discovery practice is what paralegals mostly do. This is what he supposedly studied at Upstairs Mormon Law College.
 
This one just boggles my mind

Why is Russ suddenly pushing and pushing hard for a discovery he should have asked for years ago? Why now? And why such a aggressive tone?

Give me the deets and give it to me naow or else!

Makes even less sense then his other shitty ramblings. I am still super pissed off at how Russtard can just keep filing shit that makes no sense and serves no purpose and do it for free while Jersh has to pay each and every time to respond to it.

Don't give me Jersh gets fee's shit, Russ has no money and will never have money. Every cent Jersh sinks into this hole is gone forever. Well not forever it does pay for Hardin Porsche lease but still....much anger towards the system...urge to fedpost rising.
I don't know if I'd call it agressive, he basically just copied Hardin's discovery requests. As for why now instead months ago when submitted his amended complaint that added the two users as defendants, probably cause of Hardin's motion to dismiss. Russ has to know that Hardin is gonna bring up at the hearing how Greer is doing nothing to subpoena the defendants that he chose to add to the case. So in Russ' mind as long as he does at least one thing to get them, he can *explain* to the Judge how he's trying his darndest. Since he asked Jersh to hand over the emails and names of the two users, he'll probably setting up something where he files for sanctions against Josh for obstruction because he won't do Greer's work for him.
 
but I almost think it would've been funnier/more efficient to just comply with the request
I agree to a certain extent with a caveat that'll explain more in my reply below this one. Looking like you are attempting to comply would make you look good before a judge and the only thing Greer would ever get out of these accounts is email addresses so it is not like any harm would be done in that sense.

However there is a very good reason Josh and Hardin didn't comply aside from the obvious that Russ is an idiot and can't properly conduct discovery, meaning they wouldn't have to comply until Russ fixes his shit.
He's gonna try to serve them via email isn't he? Lol lol lol lol
Even if discovery wasn't stayed, is this even proper for discovery? I'd have thought the mechanism for locating additional parties to a lawsuit used a different way of doing things.
This has wide reaching precedential consequences for courts expectations of websites and expectations for users of the internet. Do courts respect a citizen's right to use the internet anonymously? Are websites allowed to not track their users?

This is obviously a big fucking deal, and acceding to anything that even hints of courts forcing websites to track their users and violate their privacy should be fought tooth and nail.

I want to be clear that I'm not talking about a website that already tracks users in the normal course of business, being asked to hand over what they normally have as that is a reasonable thing for a court to ask for.
Remember that Napoleon thing?
If you are referring to me I'll just note that the judge has not ruled on Hardin's motion to dismiss.

If he was completely and hundred percent certain that this would and should go to trial he would write a very simple judgement denying that motion but he hasn't done so. He is keeping his options open which means that it is at the very least something the Judge is seriously considering.

The judge is going to be overjoyed. Not at all apoplectic.
The judge being angry at both parties is still a winning hand for the side on the defense.
 
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