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mlanguishi said:
Even the parts I remember cringing at when new:

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I don't know why this scene gets dragged so much, it's another one of those examples where the media and other retards just pretend something is unbelievably bad when it's perfectly normal. Anakin and Padme were just joking around with each other saying stupid shit in that scene. Anyone who's ever been in a happy relationship or have just been around other people in a happy relationship together know that people joke around and say dumb little inside jokes to each other all the time.

It's like the "sand" line people think is absolutely unbelievably bad when it's just a standard statement that is normal with the context of the conversation lol. To this day no one has been able to explain to me why Anakin saying he doesn't like sand to Padme after she was talking about how much she loves Naboo's sand is funny and bad. No one knows why it's supposed to be bad, they just say "it just sucks bro, it's a ridiculous line" when there's actually nothing ridiculous about those four fucking words together. It's the most astroturfed bullshit that people just pretend certain normal things in the prequels are dogshit because "George Lucas dummy durr" while they glaze actual dogshit like Andor or anything else Disney craps out.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
It's like the "sand" line people think is absolutely unbelievably bad when it's just a standard statement that is normal with the context of the conversation lol. To this day no one has been able to explain to me why Anakin saying he doesn't like sand to Padme after she was talking about how much she loves Naboo's sand is funny and bad. No one knows why it'ssupposed to be bad, they just say "it just sucks bro, it's a ridiculous line" when there's actually nothing ridiculous about those four fucking words together. It's the most astroturfed bullshit that people just pretend certain normal things in the prequels are dogshit because "George Lucas dummy durr" while they glaze actual dogshit like Andor or anything else Disney craps out.
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What I got from the line was how two people with different upbringings would view something as insufficient as sand. Padmé grew up in a life of luxury and going to the beach was part of that life. Anakin had to live in a world full of harshness with no relief and sand reminds him of that.
 
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That's the retarded thing with the woke mindset when it comes to fiction. It places guardrails on what can happen. This show didn't stick to them and people complain. Yet the inverse of that is watching media where everything is predictable because we understand the guardrails and the writers stick to them.

Someone I know who is gay and very woke mentioned this about the last Jurassic World film. Paraphrasing but it was something like, "All the main characters are white, so all the supporting characters are black but that means they can't die." When critiquing the film.

The lesbian thing was fine, it's just that it is done in eye rolling ways in so many other shows/movies that it draws comparison to them. Watching some shown like For Those About to Die, which was good but a chick is walking through a market and looks at a woman. It's so un subtle you just immediately know where it is going and eye roll.
 
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Screamer_2 said:
Someone I know who is gay and very woke mentioned this about the last Jurassic World film. Paraphrasing but it was something like, "All the main characters are white, so all the supporting characters are black but that means they can't die." When critiquing the film.
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Who the fucks watching a movie as retarded as Jurassic World where Chris Pratt is a supersoldier who can outrun volcanic ash and suplex dinosaurs and thinking "yeah this isn't diverse enough!" It would be like complaining that the next Fast and Furious movie doesn't have trans representation while Vin Diesel glides through space in a customized SUV that runs on solar power.
 
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BigBadBastich said:
Who the fucks watching a movie as retarded as Jurassic World where Chris Pratt is a supersoldier who can outrun volcanic ash and suplex dinosaurs and thinking "yeah this isn't diverse enough!" It would be like complaining that the next Fast and Furious movie doesn't have trans representation while Vin Diesel glides through space in a customized SUV that runs on solar power.
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It's the Hollywood mindset. They'd be making film and some tard would go, "the main cast is white... why can't this character be a woman?" and everyone has to go, "yes" for fear or being against the good think. I don't know about Unvirsal but retarded DEI policies where they make spreadsheets of the cast and important members of production and try and have quoatas. Hollywood where pitching your story idea has to start with how it features DEI goals.
 
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Does anyone else hate the BBY/ABY calendar? It's lazy as hell, incredibly vague, and making it a reference point is like saying we live in "80 after Normandy"
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BigBadBastich said:
Who the fucks watching a movie as retarded as Jurassic World where Chris Pratt is a supersoldier who can outrun volcanic ash and suplex dinosaurs and thinking "yeah this isn't diverse enough!" It would be like complaining that the next Fast and Furious movie doesn't have trans representation while Vin Diesel glides through space in a customized SUV that runs on solar power.
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I dont think anyone watches it for that, but it's one of those patterns that once you notice it you never stop. I had a rule of thumb for cop shows that gay people never do anything wrong ever, so when one gets accused you know he didn't do it no matter how strong thr evidence. Likewise, the only people profilers can ever nail are white men, and so on. Intersectionality has stacked up so many of these rules that you effectively have a new Hayes Code, meaning you can predict big chunks of the product from relatively little information, making everything feel samey and done.
 
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The greater a'tuin said:
Does anyone else hate the BBY/ABY calendar? It's lazy as hell, incredibly vague, and making it a reference point is like saying we live in "80 after Normandy"
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D-Day was a specific of any random days, same as Jesus' birth so I can understand picking a "random date" for a new calendar but my main issue is how small it makes SW. The only example similar is the French revolution when they set their new calendar to be the date it started and changed how months and weeks worked. But it was such a pain that Napoleon undid it barely 30-40 years later. But here, an entire galaxy uses the new calendar?! It'd be much more meaningful if the rebellion had switched to an Old Republic calendar or something. Using BBY just theters SW to Lucas and the original trilogy instead of letting it be its own lore.
 
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Screamer_2 said:
Yeah but what are you going to do? Got an alternative suggestion for how to convey where in the timeline we are compared to the original film?
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Not that anyone did this, even the EU in its prime, but Palpatine founding The First Galactic Empire, so Pre-Empire, Post-Empire.

The most zero moment in Star Wars history.
 
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Sneedmiser said:
I can't tell if Saw is black Ram Kota or black Garm Bel Iblis, but I sure wish Andor was a show about Garm instead of Mon Mothma's personal life and space lesbians.
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All I'm getting from Andor this season is that Mon Mothma is a standin for Hillary or Kamala and they're dedicating way more time to her than anything actually interesting. Seriously, she's a fucking politician/military commander she was never intended to be a major fixture of the Star Wars universe.
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Not that anyone did this, even the EU in its prime, but Palpatine founding The First Galactic Empire, so Pre-Empire, Post-Empire.

The most zero moment in Star Wars history.
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Oh yeah, I never liked the BBY/ABY system because there's way more BBY than ABY. I think the Treaty of Coruscant from SWTOR would've been a good universal calender or the New Sith Wars. That way it's more even.
 
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I can understand the reasoning behind BBY/ABY because it's the first movie that started it all, but I'd rather have it so that year 0 should've been the year of the Empire's founding. It's a lot more relevant since the Empire rules during the time of the OT, and it makes sense lore-wise since the Empire would be the kind of proud jackasses who would pull a "Year Zero" thing to signify a new age.

It should've been BEF and AEF: Before Empire Founding and After Empire Founding. For instance, 25,000 BEF would be the Republic's birthday. 19 AEF would've been the Battle of Yavin.
 
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The greater a'tuin said:
Does anyone else hate the BBY/ABY calendar? It's lazy as hell, incredibly vague, and making it a reference point is like saying we live in "80 after Normandy"
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It reminds me of the Seals Are Good series, informally called "Anakin Shrugged", where Palpatine gets confused people using the date system "BBY". The running gag is that Palpatine is the only one who tries to stick to the script.


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I can understand the reasoning behind BBY/ABY because it's the first movie that started it all, but I'd rather have it so that year 0 should've been the year of the Empire's founding. It's a lot more relevant since the Empire rules during the time of the OT, and it makes sense lore-wise since the Empire would be the kind of proud jackasses who would pull a "Year Zero" thing to signify a new age.

It should've been BEF and AEF: Before Empire Founding and After Empire Founding. For instance, 25,000 BEF would be the Republic's birthday. 19 BEF would've been the Battle of Yavin.
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The problem with using the Empire's founding for a new date era is that whilst one could imagine Palpatine being arrogant enough to try it, the Empire only lasted a handful of years so would never successfully establish a new system. BC/AD only came about long after the actual birth of Christ when the significance of Christianity became recognized.

The real problem is that SW doesn't appear to have a calendar system before AY/BBY. Which is absurd. It needs one in lore to make sense. And if it has one, then that is what people would continue to use for a long time even after a significant galactic event, due to that only being recognized with a historical view later on, as dividing two eras.
 
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The greater a'tuin said:
Does anyone else hate the BBY/ABY calendar? It's lazy as hell, incredibly vague, and making it a reference point is like saying we live in "80 after Normandy"
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It makes more sense out of the universe since it basically translates to „how much time elapsed since/is left until a new hope”. A new hope is the first point from which the cancerous tumour we call Star Wars today grew out of and the BBY/ABY system is reflective of that.

Although IIRC in legends they used some other major historical dates.
 
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Gondolindrim said:
All I'm getting from Andor this season is that Mon Mothma is a standin for Hillary or Kamala and they're dedicating way more time to her than anything actually interesting. Seriously, she's a fucking politician/military commander she was never intended to be a major fixture of the Star Wars universe.

Oh yeah, I never liked the BBY/ABY system because there's way more BBY than ABY. I think the Treaty of Coruscant from SWTOR would've been a good universal calender or the New Sith Wars. That way it's more even.
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I remember seeing Pre and Post Ruusan as dates, and yeah I think I'd prefer that. Don't know if it's a fan or an EU take, but I genuinely find it a smarter dating system.

The Empire having a new dating system also works too, since it's a nice reference to the First French Republic's attempt to year zero everything.
 
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