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This is the first I've heard of this one. I've just watched a couple of their videos and it seems pretty meh. 30 minute games on a 2ft board with 3 minis per side? Fuck, why even bother, just break out a pack of cards if you're that desperate for a game of something. Play snap.

When did tabletop players develop such a nigger time preference for their hobby? First they couldn't be bothered to paint things properly, and now it seems they can't even be bothered to play the game? I know the same thing happened to vidya and people now spend more time watching than they do playing, but I never expected tabletop to get so lazy and the industry get so creatively bankrupt so quickly.
The not wanting to paint goes back years before contrast paints and slapchop. Even GW switching 10 points of scoring in a game of 40k to be for having painted your shit as "battle ready" caused outrage. Before that it was people whining that tournaments wanted 3 colors and basing done. You might think it was the meta chasers who swap armies regularly via ebay who complained, no it was the casuals. The meta chasing tournament players would just dunk their ebay purchases in paint stripper, 3 colors, a wash, and some sand on the base and be done with it without giving a shit how it looked.

The time constraints also may seem like it comes from the tournament players(if every game takes 6 hours, you'd never be able to hold a tournament). But the reality is people got older and got busy with shit(work, life, kids) and don't want to spend 8 hours to play a game which is reasonable. The trouble here is that people took that to already faster skirmish games, and wanted to bring it down to 3 hours, then 90 minutes(which is still ok depending on the game), and eventually some people complained an hour was too long because they were out of the house, having to use their phone when it wasn't their turn(since they weren't at home in the basement playing video games or moderating reddit), etc.

Then games needed to start having co-op modes to avoid people feeling bad when they just spent $150 on a starter box, maybe painted it, and then got their ass kicked at the store after maybe skimming through part of the rulebook for 20 minutes. It avoided them feeling bad. Can't feel bad about losing a game if everyone loses, or someone else can carry you to victory.

Now you've got RPGs over the past couple of years, and it's spilling into other games as well(board games have been doing this for quite a while) with single player game modes. An argument could be made that such a thing would allow a person to have an understanding of the rules and concepts of the game in action instead of showing up to play with zero experience and slowing things down for everyone else needing to constantly look up rules. But no, this is for the social outcasts who have already been booted from every friend group at the game store, people who refuse to even attempt to socialize enough to play a game with other people, and those who believe everyone at the game store is an evil chud nazi bigot who will immediately call them out for being a trans gay something or other and report them to the local anti LGBTQ+2AISHDTVETC hit squad to kidnap them for re-education/deportation/execution.
 
Not going to edit the above post to add this because it's a completely different topic.

CMON is fucked, and not due to tariffs. They need to come up with product for their past 10 kickstarters. Last year lost 2 million, after having spent the 3 years prior to make 1.8 million. 25 percent of their payroll going to 10 percent of their employees. Needing to lay people off.. but they're a <100 employee company so who is there to lay off if they've got 10 kickstarter projects they need modelers, artists, etc. to fulfill?

So again... companies using kickstarters to generate cash for previous projects they have yet to fulfill just to pay their operating costs. Companies running on razor thin margins, etc. They even point out something I hadn't thought of or seen discussed before. By relying on kickstarter and taking 1-3 years to fulfill product for customers, they've basically locked themselves in on price to customers with no ability to adjust if margins change due to inflation, tariffs, shipping costs, etc. And we see this happen repeatedly with failed kickstarters where product goes to retail before backers get it, or they provide a halfassed version of the product(STLs instead of minis, shit like that) with a request that kickstarter backers pay even more money to get the original thing they wanted(if it's even available). And on top of that, the company running the KS campaigns, they aren't spending money marketing the product once the KS is done and its at retail, they're spending money to hype the next KS campaign.
 
On the topic of "grim dark" any of you heard of or remember 1490 Doom? It looks to be much smaller scale mordheim / frostgrave played on a 2ft circle. It randomly showed up on YouTube but when I checked the website I see this
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A setting in which a medieval world is slowly being consumed by a rising gas doesn't need the "grim dark" label attached since that's basically an apocalypse. The only physical product the shop has in a sold out knight, a hat and a couple of t-shirts. It was getting awards in 2024 but they're only now bringing it out for crowdfunding.
It has a few unique elements including it's deployment but I can't help but feel it will end up like Trench Crusade as well.
I looked into it a while back, it looked shit. You need a highly vertical board for it and it's just about pushing people off terrain.
 
Not going to edit the above post to add this because it's a completely different topic.

CMON is fucked, and not due to tariffs. They need to come up with product for their past 10 kickstarters. Last year lost 2 million, after having spent the 3 years prior to make 1.8 million. 25 percent of their payroll going to 10 percent of their employees. Needing to lay people off.. but they're a <100 employee company so who is there to lay off if they've got 10 kickstarter projects they need modelers, artists, etc. to fulfill?

So again... companies using kickstarters to generate cash for previous projects they have yet to fulfill just to pay their operating costs. Companies running on razor thin margins, etc. They even point out something I hadn't thought of or seen discussed before. By relying on kickstarter and taking 1-3 years to fulfill product for customers, they've basically locked themselves in on price to customers with no ability to adjust if margins change due to inflation, tariffs, shipping costs, etc. And we see this happen repeatedly with failed kickstarters where product goes to retail before backers get it, or they provide a halfassed version of the product(STLs instead of minis, shit like that) with a request that kickstarter backers pay even more money to get the original thing they wanted(if it's even available). And on top of that, the company running the KS campaigns, they aren't spending money marketing the product once the KS is done and its at retail, they're spending money to hype the next KS campaign.
I've been so burned out by Kickstarters overpromising and under-delivering, I'm never backing again. Multi-year delays and stretch goals never seeing the light of day are the norm now, not the exception.
 
This isn't related in any way to the gay-ass drama around the hobby but I've been tossing ideas for a fun very-old-school dungeon crawl into a google doc for the past few years whenever I remember it and would be interested in working with someone on the concept, or if anyone with an old-school ideal wanted to hear me run it by them. Aesthetically it falls somewhere between Dio's "Holy Diver" and a relatively pragmatic examination of what a world with teleportation-capable wizards would look like.
 
Now you've got RPGs over the past couple of years, and it's spilling into other games as well(board games have been doing this for quite a while) with single player game modes. An argument could be made that such a thing would allow a person to have an understanding of the rules and concepts of the game in action instead of showing up to play with zero experience and slowing things down for everyone else needing to constantly look up rules. But no, this is for the social outcasts who have already been booted from every friend group at the game store, people who refuse to even attempt to socialize enough to play a game with other people, and those who believe everyone at the game store is an evil chud nazi bigot who will immediately call them out for being a trans gay something or other and report them to the local anti LGBTQ+2AISHDTVETC hit squad to kidnap them for re-education/deportation/execution.
Look we were running a literally a weekly Friday night board gaming session that was getting a couple of dozen regular attendees when we got kicked out of our space.

So now we drift trying to find a new place that works for everyone which is about all gone because once you lose the habit people fill their schedule with other stuff.

And I mean it gets pretty bad with kids. It's not too bad while they're pretty young, heck we set up kiddie gaming zones that they seemed to love - but then they start doing extra curricular activities and now nobody has any time because we've got to cart Jr around to make sure that college resume is padded...

So sometimes you just want single player because all your other friends can't make it (again).
 
So HorusGalaxy is a 40k subreddit that was created not too long ago because every other 40k subreddit was taken over by Sigmarxism, the alt-left nutjobs-invading-40k subreddit. They've been the target of constant gay ops from the faggots over there, up to and including a tranny claiming to be harassed, getting her name on all the hobby blogs becrying the evil chuds in warhammer attacking poor innocent wammyn, then admitting she lied about it all just to try and get them banned.

They've been targeted by the admins as of late, because "there's already a 40k subreddit" and thus a "chud 40k reddit" or rather a 40k subreddit not subject to the alt-left's control is unacceptable.

Well, they added a bunch of new mods recently to offset the admins basically nuking their modlist (a prelude to them going "oh your sub isn't moderated so we're [shutting it down / taking volunteers that just happen to all be from Sigmarxism, huh, odd that]")... and the admins just nuked them all again.

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As before, no reason given, no feedback given, just "Sorry we don't want you having any moderators."
 
So HorusGalaxy is a 40k subreddit that was created not too long ago because every other 40k subreddit was taken over by Sigmarxism, the alt-left nutjobs-invading-40k subreddit. They've been the target of constant gay ops from the faggots over there, up to and including a tranny claiming to be harassed, getting her name on all the hobby blogs becrying the evil chuds in warhammer attacking poor innocent wammyn, then admitting she lied about it all just to try and get them banned.

They've been targeted by the admins as of late, because "there's already a 40k subreddit" and thus a "chud 40k reddit" or rather a 40k subreddit not subject to the alt-left's control is unacceptable.

Well, they added a bunch of new mods recently to offset the admins basically nuking their modlist (a prelude to them going "oh your sub isn't moderated so we're [shutting it down / taking volunteers that just happen to all be from Sigmarxism, huh, odd that]")... and the admins just nuked them all again.

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As before, no reason given, no feedback given, just "Sorry we don't want you having any moderators."
It's reddit. I'm not sure what else they expect to happen now that they've got the corporate admins looking down at them like the tranny eye of sauron. The only reason it likely still exists is for the admins to just keep a log of any naughty posts that aren't handled within 20 seconds, so they can claim there's a case of it not being moderated properly so they can yank the whole thing and hand it to someone else or just delete it but have some basic documentation to have a court throw it out in the event any of the chuds have enough money for a lawyer. This is of course not factoring in all of the people from r/sigmarxism who will participate in gayops intentionally violating the rules for these "gotcha" moments. It's the same reason r/horusgalaxy needed the basic ass reddit rules in their rules in the first place.

They're done, it's just a matter of when. And if they make another one? It'll get targeted the same way, the moment r/sigmarxism finds out about it.
 
You might think it was the meta chasers who swap armies regularly via ebay who complained, no it was the casuals.
Yup. I have seen way more grey on the table from casuals than the hyper-competitive sort. For the most part, they'll "paint" their stuff to comply with competition rules and thats about as far as it goes. You should see some of the stuff that gets ran at Warhammer World. "It's your hobby" has morphed into "zero standards". You will live to see colour-coded plastic for each faction in your lifetime.

An argument could be made that such a thing would allow a person to have an understanding of the rules and concepts of the game in action instead of showing up to play with zero experience and slowing things down for everyone else needing to constantly look up rules.
I'd agree to a point, but in RPGs there has been an increase in "rules-lite" games (do I even need to mention Mork Borg?) over the past few years and I pin the blame squarely on YouTubers. The new blood coming into the scene has been raised on amateur dramatics performances online rather than number crunching with a bit of improv thrown in. Some games do this kind of thing right (Shadows of Esteren) but most don't (Mork Borg and its derivatives). It would be cheaper and more rewarding for these people to start a theatre group if they're so allergic to dice. They can shoehorn their fetish and politics into a stage performance instead of making an entire industry retarded. I'll happily take the top hats and autism stickers for this one.
 
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So HorusGalaxy is a 40k subreddit that was created not too long ago because every other 40k subreddit was taken over by Sigmarxism, the alt-left nutjobs-invading-40k subreddit. They've been the target of constant gay ops from the faggots over there, up to and including a tranny claiming to be harassed, getting her name on all the hobby blogs becrying the evil chuds in warhammer attacking poor innocent wammyn, then admitting she lied about it all just to try and get them banned.

They've been targeted by the admins as of late, because "there's already a 40k subreddit" and thus a "chud 40k reddit" or rather a 40k subreddit not subject to the alt-left's control is unacceptable.

Well, they added a bunch of new mods recently to offset the admins basically nuking their modlist (a prelude to them going "oh your sub isn't moderated so we're [shutting it down / taking volunteers that just happen to all be from Sigmarxism, huh, odd that]")... and the admins just nuked them all again.

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As before, no reason given, no feedback given, just "Sorry we don't want you having any moderators."
The Sharty needs to do me a favor and dox all of Sigmarxism's mods because I'm sick and tired of commies.
 
So HorusGalaxy is a 40k subreddit that was created not too long ago because every other 40k subreddit was taken over by Sigmarxism, the alt-left nutjobs-invading-40k subreddit. They've been the target of constant gay ops from the faggots over there, up to and including a tranny claiming to be harassed, getting her name on all the hobby blogs becrying the evil chuds in warhammer attacking poor innocent wammyn, then admitting she lied about it all just to try and get them banned.

They've been targeted by the admins as of late, because "there's already a 40k subreddit" and thus a "chud 40k reddit" or rather a 40k subreddit not subject to the alt-left's control is unacceptable.

Well, they added a bunch of new mods recently to offset the admins basically nuking their modlist (a prelude to them going "oh your sub isn't moderated so we're [shutting it down / taking volunteers that just happen to all be from Sigmarxism, huh, odd that]")... and the admins just nuked them all again.

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As before, no reason given, no feedback given, just "Sorry we don't want you having any moderators."
Went to check the subplebbit out of curiosity, seems there's another subreddit probably made by the janny whose post you mentioned. One of the other jannies immediately blew it up and some people are pissed. It's not a matter of if they get banned but when, and it seems they can't help but speed up the process in some vain and retarded attempt to save whatever community they're trying to foster. At this point just go to one of those Reddit knockoffs that aren't filled with (alt-left) faggots. There's probably a few already.
 
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Went to check the subplebbit out of curiosity, seems there's another subreddit probably made by the janny whose post you mentioned. One of the other jannies immediately blew it up and some people are pissed. It's not a matter of if they get banned but when, and it seems they can't help but speed up the process in some vain and retarded attempt save whatever community they're trying to foster. At this point just go to one of those Reddit knockoffs that aren't filled with (alt-left) faggots. There's probably a few already.
Hell, even the idiots pretending they want to keep either r/horusgalaxy or this r/vengefulspirit shit around can't even agree on using the same automatic ban bot tactics that r/sigmarxism does when it makes perfect sense to do so(not that it would actually prevent anything but at least the complaining could have been funny)
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Like I said, once the tranny equivalent of the eye of sauron is on them it doesn't matter. They can't keep quiet because they're just as bad as the rest of them as they want clout and to be "running a community" or whatever the fuck which means they'll also never be able to keep the idiots out because they're just the opposite side of the same coin except the only difference is the reddit admins will automatically side against them.
 
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Hell, even the idiots pretending they want to keep either r/horusgalaxy or this r/vengefulspirit shit around can't even agree on using the same automatic ban bot tactics that r/sigmarxism does when it makes perfect sense to do so(not that it would actually prevent anything but at least the complaining could have been funny)
I hate when people try to moral high ground against people who would celebrate their death. Fuck them, they pray for your actual death so why is it such a problem to autoban the people who would autoban you in a heartbeat?
They can't keep quiet because they're just as bad as the rest of them as they want clout and to be "running a community" or whatever the fuck which means they'll also never be able to keep the idiots out because they're just the opposite side of the same coin except the only difference is the reddit admins will automatically side against them.
This is why gatekeeping doesn't do shit on large, public communities. Too many fools want to keep the gate open for everyone and then wonder why they suddenly have the gate shut on them by the people they let in. How many places must be infiltrated and subverted before people get the memo? You know they're doomed because even the jannies deleted the post for being "off-topic." Absolute retards, even places that tout less restricted speech still have limits on bad actors that try to destroy them, but these are plebbitors after all.
 
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I hate when people try to moral high ground against people who would celebrate their death. Fuck them, they pray for your actual death so why is it such a problem to autoban the people who would autoban you in a heartbeat?

This is why gatekeeping doesn't do shit on large, public communities. Too many fools want to keep the gate open for everyone and then wonder why they suddenly have the gate shut on them by the people they let in. How many places must be infiltrated and subverted before people get the memo? You know they're doomed because even the jannies deleted the post for being "off-topic." Absolute retards, even places that tout less restricted speech still have limits on bad actors that try to destroy them, but these are plebbitors after all.
Holy shit they did actually delete it, and even with this as the description for their subreddit
A bastion for unrestricted Warhammer discussion, lore, strategy, miniatures, and everything between. We purge noise, not opinions.
Seems like they purged the fuck out of that opinion, lol.
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Yet somehow this post was ok?
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The poster at the bottom of the image has the right idea, the only problem is he's still posting on reddit in the first place. You aren't gatekeeping shit if you're just letting everyone in. And you're not stopping anyone if the people who actually run the site won't let you gatekeep when they can and will just delete your entire community at the drop of a hat. Even a fucking trade subreddit for minis recently got deleted from reddit. Why? Because people kept opening their mouths, it wasn't gatekept, people discovered it, and then bitched to reddit. If a sub for trading minis can't be left alone by the reddit admins and their sycophants at sigmarxism, why the fuck do these guys think their shit will last if it stays even remotely close to the original intent?
 
The poster at the bottom of the image has the right idea, the only problem is he's still posting on reddit in the first place.
Type of people who would shit on the government in a country where the government punishes dissent. "Yeah I'm going to form my own group that's opposed to the status quo-is that a bullet covered in red tape?"
Even a fucking trade subreddit for minis recently got deleted from reddit.
Lol even something as harmless as a trade subreddit was attacked? Depressing, though there's this one. Bartertown is probably better anyway.
 
More business slapfights.
Remember some weird "smart" paint shit that went out to youtube people a couple years back and then wasn't heard of again till some more went out under this ionic smart paint brand shit(whatever "smart" is supposed to mean, near as I can tell it's just an acrylic gouache). Well guess what happens when "creatives" get together for business, don't hire people who understand business, or at least sort out contracts with lawyers? You get bankruptcy, instagram posts talking shit, lay-offs, etc.

In the middle of April AMMO paints posts this slideshow(at least it has the full text on the side so I don't need to grab every image)
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Well that's fucking weird that AMMO feels the need to post this about a weird sub brand of paint that's basically failed to launch twice. This Big Child bullshit isn't any paint company I've ever heard of, must be some weird collab thing. Oh well. Fast Forward to May 5th https://www.instagram.com/p/DJR-MDRIolh/?hl=en
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So after working with AMMO for multiple years, apparently no one at Big Child thought to do anything properly until basically the last minute, rushed it, and still half-assed it. So now it's the little guy fighting back against the evil corporation and the mother of its owner. Sure would be a shame if this Big Child Creatives group hadn't been acting like children resulting in possible bankruptcy, having to lay off staff, etc. because they were too busy wanting to sing kumbaya while not actually being concerned with the business aspect of manufacturing and then globally shipping a paint brand to distributors and retail
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Well it seems that's exactly what they did. Honestly I'm not fond of AMMO paints either, I've tried their paints a few times over the years(not this ionic smart shit) and have never been particularly impressed(maybe their diorama stuff is good? I don't know) but it seems another group has learned the hard way why you need to have people involved who actually understand business. AMMO also seems to be full of shit with their claims of hundreds of thousands of euros in debt, because let's be honest.. if they didn't secure proper legal agreements regarding payment either then they're fucking stupid as well.

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Lol even something as harmless as a trade subreddit was attacked? Depressing, though there's this one. Bartertown is probably better anyway.
Yes, Only for trading minis, You wouldn't normally buy/sell there. People started openly discussing it, various bootlickers and sycophants got involved, and shut it down.
 
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I've been so burned out by Kickstarters overpromising and under-delivering, I'm never backing again. Multi-year delays and stretch goals never seeing the light of day are the norm now, not the exception.
If you want a reasonable and reliable creator to throw money at, there's Kevin Crawford at least.
 
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