Debate Israel's right to the land they occupy for the millionth time

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All the Hasan supporters think that Ethan lost because he didn't argue primarily about Palestine and instead focused on drama. Why are people who are obsessed with politics incapable of understanding that not everyone is, and that the vast majority of people who care about the feud are interested because of the drama between Idubbz and Ethan? Ethan said it himself to Hasan when he said that Hasan was trying to make the debate unwatchable. Hasan can't even point out Yemen on a map, but we're supposed to accept his commentary as if he is an expert and he is allowed to use the issue as a weapon against anyone he disagrees with? I'm fucking tired of being told that I have to care about Palestine and that I am so ignorant and evil by these people.
Especially when the political conflict can essentially be reduced to "Who do you hate more? Jews or muslims?"

There's really nothing more to talk about which is why all the discussions go nowhere. This one and the one with destiny and that "MISTE BONTELLI" guy come to mind. They always just argue in circles over who has a right to genocide the other.
 
You mean because ur Jewish too bro, just say it.
Yeah, because I am Jewish I understand where H3 is coming from. I don't agree with him on stuff but I see his point of view. But some of the shit we Jews do makes zero sense without context. But when you explain it/put it in context, people are able to see where and WHY we do what we do. That explanation is actually what Hasbra is. Literally, it's explaining. Imagine someone had zero idea why people put trees in their homes around December 25th. Hasbra would be explaining to that person what Christmas/Jesus is.

Ian and Hasan will be reacting to Ethan's Content Nuke together on a stream in the near future:
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What a faggot. Lol the turk just HAS to copy the Jew. Oh btw Hasbra is Hebrew for "explaining" basically the idea of Hasbra is that if we (jews/israelis) explain WHY we are doing what we are doing then people will agree with us or at least understand WHY we are doing what we are doing, and that it's not because we like to kill babies or some shit but because there was logic to it. This dumb turk is saying "oh well see he's a baby killer because he is explaining his side". God Hasan is retarded.


For the record no Hasbra has never worked because the Jews/Israelis suck at PR. Seriously, the Israelis can't explain their way out of a paper bag. I think it is due to their forwardness/not give a fuck aditude they all have. That's why Israelis need American Jews to translate for them.

An example of Hasbra would be telling people that the checkpoints and walls that were set up between Israel and the West Bank were done to stop the suicide bombers who would allah-akbar themselves in grocery stores. malls, busses etc. And that everyone Jew or non-Jew, Israeli or Palesitianian ALL have to go through the checkpoints. And if the Palestinians never did the suicide bombings during their "intifada" then the wall would have never been built (seriously Israel was having a Charlie-Hebdo like once a fucking month back in the early 2000s).

See I didn't tell you if the walls/checkpoints were a good idea or not, I simply told you WHY they exist (and HOW they work). If you asked an Israeli why the walls and checkpoints existed they would say "because it works".


Palestinian/Arab/Muslim propaganda works by trying to make it emotional (aparthid walls, evil racism etc etc). Israeli propaganda works on logic (walls stop suicide bombers, we destroy the homes of terrorists because the Palestinain authority gives you and your family a pension if you go out and kill a Jew/Israeli (civilian or not), we are destorying the gaza strip because the government of the strip (hamas) invaded us on Oct 7 and raped, killed, kidnapped and tortured civilians only because they were Jewish and Israeli civilians and that Hamas chose to attack civilians instead of just going for military/goverment targets because their end goal is killing anyone who's not their brand of Muslim. And Israel will continue destroying the strip until they give back the living hostages and the dead ones. And that if Hamas or any Palestinian just gives up the bodies then the destruction will stop.


It's why emotional retards like Hasan flock to Palestinian propaganda. Israelis (and Jews) don't ask people to agree with them or follow them, they want people to UNDERSTAND them and WHY they do what they do. That's why when Israel or Jews talk its about security and shit (no emotion). But emotion is an easy thing to sell, logic is not.


Hasan and these arabs retards think that if they just announce "scary" judeic/hebrew words with some authority then people won't question him because "he's using words I don't know he must be smart".


like ooo zionist sounds scary like facist. When Zionist simply means supporting the idea that Jews should have a state where they (the Jews) can have self-determination and self-governance in their historical lands (Zion, aka biblical Judea/Israel). It's no different than the french having their own country or the poles or the swiss. Execept its the Jews. oooo so fucking scary. At no point does the idea of Zionism talk about what a zionist state should look like or how its run. It's just the simple idea that the ethinic group/race of the Jews should have their own place. I mean different political theories have come up explaining what the ideal zionist state might look like, but that's more akin to arguing "which political parties' ideology will lead to the best version of America?" Just because you're a MAGA republican or a centerest republican or an LBJ dem doesn't mean you hate America, it just means you have a different vision of the country. By the way, isn't Hasan super supportive of giving the blacks their own country? What's the difference? But the Turks won't even let the Kurds or Christian Cyprots live in peace so why am I not surprised?




Fucking retarded Turk. May Allah forgive me for what I am about to say, but I hope you get audited by the IRS.
 
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I'm about 2 hours in and Jesus, the Turkroach is so disingenous that it would make iDubbbz blush redder than the reddest rose in existence out of envy.
He’s so obviously a hypocrite and a bad faith actor. The US army are terrorists for bombing Iraq, but Houthis aren’t terrorists for taking civilians hostage. Israelis should refuse mandatory military service and accept going to prison for it in order to not participate in the “genocide,” but Hamasabi will continue to pay taxes instead of going to prison even though the US is directly funding that “genocide” with his tax dollars. Anyone with a working brain can see how disingenuous he is.

Oh btw Hasbra is Hebrew for "explaining" basically the idea of Hasbra is that if we (jews/israelis) explain WHY we are doing what we are doing then people will agree with us or at least understand WHY we are doing what we are doing,
I think it’s partially a numbers thing. Jews are a small population of only 15 million and nobody fucking knows anything about Judaism.

The widespread ignorance, coupled with 2 billion Muslims still seething and foaming at the mouth bc they got ass raped in 1948 and a tiny speck of sovereign Jewish land fractured their uniform Islamic caliphate, has made a successful Jewish PR campaign virtually impossible. All our Hollywood influence has been good for is pumping out shitty Adam Sandler movies. Smh
 
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I think it’s partially a numbers thing. Jews are a small population of only 15 million and nobody fucking knows anything about Judaism.

The widespread ignorance, coupled with 2 billion Muslims still seething and foaming at the mouth bc they got ass raped in 1948 and a tiny speck of sovereign Jewish land fractured their uniform Islamic caliphate, has made a successful Jewish PR campaign virtually impossible. All our Hollywood influence has been good for is pumping out shitty Adam Sandler movies. Smh

Probably, but also American media has made the Jew either adam sandler (who's annoying as all hell), woody allen (who bitches and moans and is "funny"), senfield or larry david. OR it's holocaust shit. The last American movie which came out that didn't make the Jew look weak was the movie Exodus which came out in 1950 and is about the Israeli war of Independence, which ended a year before. If you want movies that don't show the Jew as only a victim (but instead a person like any other), one has to look at Israeli cinema (which isn't that bad, just small).


His leftist competitors are fat troons, and also Frogan, who looks like a fat troon. It’s a low bar.
That explains so much.
 
The last American movie which came out that didn't make the Jew look weak was the movie Exodus which came out in 1950
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Does this count?
 
The last American movie which came out that didn't make the Jew look weak was the movie Exodus which came out in 1950 and is about the Israeli war of Independence, which ended a year before. If you want movies that don't show the Jew as only a victim (but instead a person like any other), one has to look at Israeli cinema (which isn't that bad, just small).
The only time a Jew is portrayed as "cool" is when he fighting against the Nazis. The main example I can think of trying to glaze Jews is Inglorious Bastards, which gave me second hand embarrassment. And I'm not even Jewish. The "Bear Jew" is so fucking stupid. It's like the scene from the hateful eight when the confederate soldier is forced to suck the black man's dick.
 
The only time a Jew is portrayed as "cool" is when he fighting against the Nazis. The main example I can think of trying to glaze Jews is Inglorious Bastards, which gave me second hand embarrassment.And I'm not even Jewish. The "Bear Jew" is so fucking stupid.
The worst part is how none of it is based on reality, and it just comes off as bullshit cringy lefty spank material. There is plenty one could make outstanding movies about if they want to focus on modern Jews. The Warsaw Uprising is a good one; only 3 people survived that. I know there were a few Jewish partisan groups (most weren't allowed into the normal commie ones), one could talk about the Jewish spy ring (called the Nili) that existed in Israel and worked with the British to defeat the ottomans, one could talk about the Jewish armed groups which helped form Israel and had some interesting interplay between each group hell a lot of the shit the Israelis did back in the 1950s-1980s is movie gold. Or they can talk about how the Jews who were in the Middle East/North Africa were genocided, forced from their homes and had to walk to Israel because the arabs blamed them for why they lost against Israel. They could make a movie about Eli Cohen, an Egyptian-Jew who moved to Israel and became Israel's most successful spy who threw lavish parties and nearly became the minister of defense, however his hubaris eventually led him to be caught and executed on syrian TV. But all that would require Hollywood to take risks and show a side of history that makes the Arab not look like the victim and the European completely incompetent.



It's like the scene from the hateful eight when the confederate soldier is forced to suck the black man's dick.
I'm sorry....................WHAT?


At least Christoph Waltz was there to lend some quality to the movie.

He was the best part of the movie. The whole bear jew nazi scalp thing was really stupid. i mean it was campy but Brad Pitt and Eli Roth were just stupid.


Fuck Christoph Waltz is 1/2 the only reason why Django unchained is entertaining at all. The second half is Dicaprio.
 
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At least Christoph Waltz was there to lend some quality to the movie.
He was the best character in the movie. But Tarantino is such a hack.

But all that would require Hollywood to take risks and show a side of history that makes the Arab not look like the victim and the European completely incompetent.
Hollywood always revises history to present a narrative. Everyone loves Braveheart, but William Wallace was never a poor peasant, he never impregnated the kings wife, and the British never used jus primae noctis to commit mass rape against Scottish people because they are just that evil.
I'm sorry....................WHAT?
Tarantino is obsessed with black men.
 
ill give you an addition from a foid -- zwi migdal/raquel liberman
(zwi migdal was dedicated to trafficking jewish women into sex slavery and raquel took them down in argentina)
I never heard of this but it's fascinating. But you know it could never be made now because it makes "sex work look bad".


But honestly in some ways the Jewish gangsters were far more ruthless and cut throat than their competitors. I think many people don't remember them because yiddish isn't exactly as sexy as Italian and the Italian mob loves/loved all that theatrical bullshit that I don't think the Jews had. Still it's fascinating how Jewish gangsters will appear, running some sort of key racket (mayer lanski coms to mind) but never be the "star of the show" so to speak.


Sorry I'm just saying a movie about the Jewish gangsters set in the 20s or something would be really interesting.
 
But honestly in some ways the Jewish gangsters were far more ruthless and cut throat than their competitors. I think many people don't remember them because yiddish isn't exactly as sexy as Italian and the Italian mob loves/loved all that theatrical bullshit that I don't think the Jews had.
100% accurate. i think our people have always excelled at making more money and looking less sexy while doing it
 
we destroy the homes of terrorists because the Palestinain authority gives you and your family a pension if you go out and kill a Jew/Israeli (civilian or not)
Do you know how much it is? I can't imagine it's even that much?
What does Israel do if one of theirs does the same?

Not to get political, but I am curious. Shit is fucked up.
Just spoiler the reply, or DM me.

This bitch’s teeth are absolutely horrific, I can’t take anyone seriously who has a mouth that looks like a desert rock formation
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Yeah, she's ugly AF. Anisa Twitter orbiter.
 
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