Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

This is while also not getting into blatant fetish-made games or mods catered towards people getting a hardon for them.

Can you name any that were made pre-internet?

 

[Colon capital V]

Can you name any that were made pre-internet?

If you mean in the 90s, hard to say since I didn't experience or heard about fetish tailored games back then unless you count something like Custer's Revenge as wank material (and of course your standard DOS textbased adventures but for sex).
If you mean during the 2000s, there's a few I'm sure. Demonophobia is a guro survival horror game about a girl getting brutally killed in mspaint quality. It was released in 2008 so a few years into youtube's life, but not entirely assraped by mega social media sites taking up everywhere else at the time. Deviantart came out on August 7th, 2000, so you can pretty much pinpoint the exact moment autism fetishes were allowed to flourish on the Internet as a whole.

 

[Coolio55]

Can you name any that were made pre-internet?

Most of this was probably made before the author even knew what they were doing:

 

[The Wise Shaman]

You know what? Why is it specifically the animation scene that's like this? Like, I don't see as many games, movies, or anything else that are nearly as "fetish-driven" as animation. What even lead to this? What is it about animation/cartoons that attract so many lolcows/fetishists?

The barrier of entry probably. Drawing and writing are the two easiest genres of art to get into. Combine the two of them, and you get animation. Live-action movies and theatrical works take a lot more effort and people; games require learning a coding language; music simply doesn't work for fetish fantasies; and real-life physical art forms like painting and sculpting are harder to share online or make a living out of.

But in the end, it's not just fetishes. The animators are very homogeneous in many other ways. You can basically always expect all of them to be progressives unless they're proven otherwise. No other art scene seems to be like that. And even if you find someone "based," he's most likely to use the same art style as almost everyone else. In comparison, avant-garde animation styles are really underrated and have a lot of potential, but they barely do anything interesting with them. They're usually used for virtue signaling at best. I'm not saying "based" avant-garde animators don't exist; they do, but they're extremely rare.

The music scene gives us wild contrast in comparison. As a musician, you can easily find a couple of like-minded musicians in your area, no matter how obscure your ideology or your music taste is, and you get stuff like combining psychedelic rock with black metal and synth-pop while singing about "being in an esoteric Nazi cult" and "playing with dinosaurs" (yes, this band exists), and the moment you get any amount of popularity, you'll get copycat bands popping up imitating your music.

Trying to do something similar with animation nowadays is unimaginable. Good animation is either expensive or time-consuming and isn't worth the effort unless you're that popular. If you're going experimental, then almost no one will care. If you're politically incorrect on any issue, then good luck finding anyone wanting to work with you.

I genuinely don't know why animators are like this. I can understand the fetish side of things; I can understand the financial aspects and why everything looks so simple, but moral and political aspects simply don't make sense to me. There are way more "right-wing" creatives in other areas; why is this one so unpopular for them? The only group I can compare animators to are digital artists on social media, a group I can say the exact same things about I just said. This is an enigma that I can't solve.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

TheAshTube was pretty tolerable when he was only talking about the history of British kids' comics. But the Irish faggot went full on historical revisionism breadtuber in his recent videos. Especially his Beano in the WW2 video. Instead of talking about the history of Beno comics during WW2. He spent half the video comparing Donald Trump to Hitler and bitching about Trump in general. He even bitched about conspiracy theories and misinformation while ignoring the British comic book industry, including Beano were putting pro-communist and Joseph Stalin propaganda in kids' comics, even during WW2. At least the potato nigger didn't bring up the Gaza or Israel this time.

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

But in the end, it's not just fetishes. The animators are very homogeneous in many other . You can basically always expect all of them to be progressives unless they're proven otherwise.

I genuinely don't know why animators are like this. I can understand the fetish side of things; I can understand the financial aspects and why everything looks so simple, but moral and political aspects simply don't make sense to me.

I think it’s because, for a long time, the only way to make an animated film or show was to go through the big companies. Until recently, they had pretty strict rules about what they could and couldn’t do, and they tried to keep things as clean as possible. TV guidelines dictated what made it to air, and openly opposing that would get you in hot water. You had to follow network-generated scripts and deal with executive meddling. The only person I can think of who really challenged this at the time was John K. Now, I hate that nigga for being a pedophile, but I’ll admit he had some decent points about creative autonomy and how modern cartoons are written by corporates instead of actual artists.

Animation as a medium tends to attract social outcasts—people who value challenging norms and pushing social progress. Most Western studios are in progressive areas, and the schools that teach animation lean liberal. Conservatives, at least the ones I’ve interacted with, don’t usually "vibe" with those values. They tend to be more rigid, and a lot of them don’t even like the arts for one reason or the other. That’s why they prefer AI corpo sloppa, and why their own stuff like political cartoons often looks flat and safe, careful to not step too far out of line.
This tension isn't new at all, think the moral panic surrounding Elvis during his time.

The internet is turning into what cable was—subscriptions, censorship, and algorithms forcing creators to chase trends just to stay afloat. You can’t tell a solid story anymore because seasons are only five episodes long, and if you get too far out of line, you get silenced. Even on Xitter, a platform Elon swears is "free," it's still singing the same tune as the others. That’s why most modern animators don’t break the mold—and the ones who do rarely get heard. The more shit changes the more it stays the same.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

The only person I can think of who really challenged this at the time was John K.

Ralph Bakshi is the original based animator/artist. He makes John K look like a total kid diddling pussy.

 

[The Grimace]

Can you name any that were made pre-internet?

I can't remember what it was called at the moment, but if I remember right, some of Square (later Square Enix)'s earliest work were these Japanese computer games where you had to solve a hangman puzzle or something before a loli character got killed by some death trap.

 

[Colon capital V]

I genuinely don't know why animators are like this.

*why western animators are like this.
I hate to bring up anime again, but can you honest to god tell me have any nips, chinks, or other brand of slanteye animator have ever complained about muh minorities and gender troon shit? No, you definitely haven't because this is strictly a western problem. And I hate tapping the sign on this, but western animation has been degrated to child-like status. No one takes it seriously despite all the bitching and whining for people to take it seriously, and those that do are more times than not manchildren, and who makes up most of manchildren? Libshit lefties that seethes and dilates the moment you tell them their "lifestyle" of watching cartoons is childish in the same way telling them cranking your dick to gay porn is degenerate. I wish it wasn't like this, I really do, but unless there's some technological breakthrough that lowers the barrier of entry to making good experimental animation by unpozzed people, this is where we're at at the moment.

 

[SoleniyKraut]

Don't forget the She-Ra reboot's characters being flat as a board as a way for Noelle Stevenston to cope about wanting to chop her tits off. Or The Owl House's main character being supposedly based on Dana Terrace's old college roommate, with Amity being the most blatant self-insert of Terrace. Seriously, look at images comparing the two's hair at the time. And I guess Alex Hirsch is such a cuck that it didn't bother him whatsoever.

Also! That Powerpuff Girls reboot's kike writer giving himself a self-insert for Blossom's boyfriend with a name as equally Jewish as his real one.

Unsurprising. I can understand using something that happened to you, or people you know - as a way to explore some concept or topic, objectively; But once again this is SUBJECTIVE, nobody will relate to this. What do they gain from showing their insecurities and inadequacies on the big screen to other people?

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

I hate to bring up anime again, but can you honest to god tell me have any nips, chinks, or other brand of slanteye animator have ever complained about muh minorities and gender troon shit? No, you definitely haven't because this is strictly a western problem.

Hate to burst your bubble but anime has a lot of troon/faggotry in it. It adds a lot to the tranny epidemic both with the content itself and the fanbase.

but unless there's some technological breakthrough that lowers the barrier of entry to making good experimental animation by unpozzed people, this is where we're at at the moment.

It's been pretty low for a while now. With animation and editing apps on the Appstore and Blender being free and thousands of tutorials at your fingertips, if you really wanted to, you could. Now getting an audience for it? With social media algorithms and short attention spans? Goodluck if it's not current popular social media thing.

 

[Newcomer 42]

These statements explain a lot about why Season 2 of Gravity Fails felt so weak, especially the ending, since the protagonist is dunked on and completely forgotten about.
How's Gumball, by the way? It's also from the 2010s, but from what I remember, it was quite based and it's actually a British work, not an American Cal Arts abomination.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

How's Gumball, by the way?

at the very least the way they play with different materials and textures for the visuals is fun
I've caught some episodes, seems nice enough.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Hate to burst your bubble but anime has a lot of troon/faggotry in it. It adds a lot to the tranny epidemic both with the content itself and the fanbase.

While true, it wasn't preaching to you about trans rights and shit until very recently, and that's only if it has actual Western influence (and then the anime bombs lmao). Back then, and even still to this day, if a faggot/tranny was in an anime, they were treated as a joke. They still had characterizing moments that would make them human, but then they go back to being the butt of the joke.

Hana from Tokyo Godfathers stands out for being the most human of them all, and she still never denied who she actually was, and yet I will respect her pronouns because she was hilarious, humble, and badass. Even in the movie Gin came to respect her after spending about 30-ish minutes dissing Hana, that's called character development, something modern writers cannot wrap their heads around. It's one of the reasons I refuse to support the dub because they went out of their way to tone down Gin's disparaging comments towards her when by doing that, it kills the nuance of his character and their relationship.

 

[Chromeo]

These statements explain a lot about why Season 2 of Gravity Fails felt so weak, especially the ending, since the protagonist is dunked on and completely forgotten about.
How's Gumball, by the way? It's also from the 2010s, but from what I remember, it was quite based and it's actually a British work, not an American Cal Arts abomination.

It doesn't seem "British," as a show, but it's fantastic. It gets better as the seasons go on, but it's pretty funny in the beginning too.

 

[Colon capital V]

Hate to burst your bubble but anime has a lot of troon/faggotry in it. It adds a lot to the tranny epidemic both with the content itself and the fanbase.

Re-read my previous posts, I'm not denying anime isn't degenerate, but that you never hear asian animators piss and moan about muh progression and marxist struggle the same way people in the western animation business do. Yes weebs are arguably just as if not more faggy, but that’s on the fandom side and not any of the business side of things.

It's been pretty low for a while now. With animation and editing apps on the Appstore and Blender being free and thousands of tutorials at your fingertips, if you really wanted to, you could. Now getting an audience for it? With social media algorithms and short attention spans? Goodluck if it's not current popular social media thing.

It's honestly not that hard to stick out as a rightwing/edgy creative in [current year] seeing how (((the industry))) and xitter brained trannies have pushed to crush this type of thinking and expression (albeit terribly a la stonetoss). The problem starts when you're too successful in your wrongthink that platforms have to decide whether you're worth keeping on or not, or worse when debanking happens to you for being a shit stirrer. Imagine how many unpozzed, uncucked creatives we'd have if the platform you're on didn't delete your account at a moment's notice because of what you make. Sad state really.

 

[NoReturn]

I wonder if The Office's style of humor was lost on Millennial writers, thinking about it. There's similarities with a vast cast of weirdoes in various stages of arrested development in Michael's attempt to make the office space be more of a "family unit" while trying to keep them from going under. Problem is, Millennials want every character to be a snarky quirky smartass when not everyone in The Office was like that.

I haven't watched enough millenial slop to comment on it more meaningfully, but I've noticed it.

I think another part of it is who is in the industry these days. I did the math elsewhere, but the takeaway is that something like "animator" was a more accessible and viable career back in the 80s. The only people remaining in media these days are either extremely privledged or true believer commie maniacs. The opposing forces who would have been the voices of reason back in the 90s can no longer afford to exist in those industries. There is no millennial equivalent of someone like Matt Maiellaro because the cost of entry is too high for someone of his background these days. You can't work your way up from the mailroom like he did (literally) anymore.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

I can't remember what it was called at the moment, but if I remember right, some of Square (later Square Enix)'s earliest work were these Japanese computer games where you had to solve a hangman puzzle or something before a loli character got killed by some death trap.

That was Enix, not Square. Before they got big with Dragon Quest, Enix made some PC games including a couple pornographic ones called Mari-chan's Close Call, where a teenage girl gets kidnapped by her stalker and you play rock-paper-scissors so she either loses a piece of clothing while moving to the next stage if you win or gets brutally killed and you're a show a picture of her corpse if you lose, and Lolita Syndrome, which is a game where a bunch of 10-year-old girls are trapped in some rooms and you have to solve puzzles to free them from Saw-style traps or else they get killed and if you win you see them naked.

 

[The Cunting Death]

There's also another upcoming show that's trying to do the 2000's animation style, but really fails called "I Wanna Eat Your Guts"

It's so unbelievably unfunny...

this is just Dollar store Downtown

Also holy fuck Downtown was a great show.

 

[invisibult plus+]

Tumblr singlehandedly ruined western animation, man. Tumblrslop after tumblrslop after tumblrslop.

Even the weird Gorillaz-ass undead show has to have the mandated female girlboss protagonist.

I used to miss the 00’s styles. Looks like my heart wished on a monkey’s paw. They feel like they’re written by people who didn’t grow up in the 00’s, but after, because I don’t remember people acting like this.