US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[MrJokerRager]

Based Orange Man taking the pajeets to the cleaners.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

Based Orange Man taking the pajeets to the cleaners.
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The body of the text continues in a relatively business as usual "India is butthurt after greatest offensyive saar, china saying it's numba 1, and America not making a shit deal."

"China claimed that its JF-17 and J-10 jets were superior, yet they failed to prevent Indian strikes on Pakistani airbases. Meanwhile, Chinese PL-15 missiles were seen lying intact in Indian fields. On the other hand, the US keeps claiming that India lost a rafale jet without providing any proofs. This as the US fails to secure a fighter jet deal with India."

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

The entire thing with porn/IDs online etc. is a bit of a weird issue, as ultimately banning porn won't solve the societal rot that has lead to the proliferation/acceptance of an overly sexualized world. I'm of the mind that children really shouldn't be accessing the internet without supervision either way, and even into your teens you can be very easily taken advantage of or just looped into porn-sick brainrot. That said, the real and ultimate solution would be to just bring back shame. Shame as a tool is effectively gone from our society outside of racism/sexism accusations, and really needs to come back.

Shame is a healthy, self regulating emotion to feel, and a complete lack of it leads to diaper wearing weirdos shitting in pools, open and loud appreciation for lolicon on twitter/bluesky, or shit like spouting retarded libshit talking points in literally every conversation with family members.

But no, everyone is so therapy-brained when talking about shame, that its all about feeling only good about yourself, even if you should feel ashamed.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

The problem is, they aren't just "asking for your ID" like a bouncer, they're storing your ID. They will then associate everything on your account with you personally and when that data is leaked, the company may have to pay a fine but so what, the damage is going to go well beyond that. As nice as it is to say "Well they shouldn't be looking at that stuff," that boils down to the same argument of "nothing to hide, nothing to fear." Which doesn't hold up.

When I buy booze they scan my State ID and a government provided system tells them if I am ok to buy booze. They don't keep my ID on file.

Why couldn't this be made available to adult content providers? No, I won't provide you my ID Mr. Pornsite, I will however provide it to GovIDCheck.GOV and it'll return an API call saying yes or no, and rather than my ID you can just store that. Mandate a reasonable re-check (my local candy store cards me every time despite knowing me, cause they have to) of say, once every 14 or 30 days, and we're good. Problem solved. (Right now they take a credit card and put a $1 hold on it to do more or less the same thing.)

The only catch is, this would create a small stumbling block on getting access to the porn, and as an addictive vice, that's a no go. They NEED you to be thinking with your dick and click click click rather than being pulled out of it to be carded.

Edit: Realization: They could do this to keep kids off of Twitter, force safesearch mode on, and keep them out of 18+ Discords, too.

 

[DumbDude43]

But if they import it, they can buy exactly 1 and still steal US tech.

trying to reverse engineer a piece of machinery from scratch by just looking at the thing is a very very difficult task.
having access to the factory where it is produced along with instructions on how to produce it and a bunch of people trained in producing it makes it much more feasible.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

trying to reverse engineer a piece of machinery from scratch by just looking at the thing is a very very difficult task.
having access to the factory where it is produced along with instructions on how to produce it and a bunch of people trained in producing it makes it much more feasible.

If they don't change their trade laws, they won't get any more customers giving up their secrets to be manufactured in China. If they do change their trade laws, they'll not only get designs spoon-fed to them, they'll also be able to import items that aren't manufactured in China and reverse engineer them if they so desire.

Trade barriers: no free designs, no reverse engineering possibilities

Remove trade barriers: free designs, and opportunities for reverse engineering

 

[Dr J]

The idea that requiring an ID to access porn will 100% for certain lead to the entire internet requiring an ID just to shitpost seems like such a massive stretch.

Yes. Let's just ignore that Hillary Clinton, Nikki Haley, various EU ministers and other Globalist pieces of shit have all said, more than once, that they'd really rather you weren't anonymous on the internet.

Let's also just forget that, when the Conservative Party in Britain got a bee in their bonnet about people being able to access porn on the internet, to the point that they strong-armed the ISPs into providing content blockers on the ISP side (even though the ISPs repeatedly told them that's not really their job), David Cameron started wondering aloud about what other websites could be blocked, using the same system.

Anybody cheering this on because of their personal disgust or distaste for pornography is a fucking idiot. Pornography is just the lever they use to implement totalitarian control.

 

[Overly Serious]

I'd personally rather a law that porn sites are, by default, blocked and have to be opt in to even be able to see them.

I don't think a law is required for that. Most ISPs I know of, at least in my country, have a filter service that parents can opt in or out of according to their wishes. All the mainstream ISPs have that at least.

IMO what should be done is to have a service which provides a verification of being over 18 but no more. So for people familiar with single-sign on methods like SAML, you'll already understand the principle. Server A is a verification service and to them you'd register and provide some form of ID to prove your age. Server B is the adult-orientated site. When you connect to B it redirects you to A with a token to identify the request. Server A confirms its you by a password or whatever, and sends you back to Server B with a new token verifying you're over 18 but no further identifying information. Just a "I checked them and they are".

The adult orientated site knows nothing about you (that you don't give it yourself) and the verification service A can be audited to ensure it's not keeping logs of where requests came in from.

This provides an approach whereby age verification can exist on sites without those sites requiring ID from you. This technology exists and is widespread. In fact, it's already being used for these purposes I think, except with one significant flaw - Google is playing the third party and there's fuck all auditing or deleting of logs going on. Provide a neutral and audited third party that committed to privacy and you'd have a workable system.

EDIT: Partially ninja'd by @HTTP Error 404 . Yes, it can be done and this is how you do it. The technology is already widely used for Single Sign On services.

 

[Dr J]

Racial slurs and spicy political takes are covered by the First Amendment and always has been

You cannot possibly be this naive.

Firstly, the First Amendment only protects your right not to be penalised by the Government for your speech. No such protection exists for private enterprise. If everything you ever posted on this website was tied to your real name and face, and it got leaked, do you really think you'd have a job on Monday?

Secondly, as demonstrated by the Biden Administration, the government can get around the First Amendment when they've got a political axe to grind and they want you badly enough. They tried to throw a meme maker in jail because his meme humiliated them. They branded hundreds of protestors as 'insurrectionists' and threw them in prison without trial. They even tried to throw the former President of the United States in prison, partly by claiming that telling people to watch a hearing on C-Span and telling the Georgia Secretary of State to do his fucking job was in furtherance of seditious conspiracy.

By creating the framework for the government to identify you by your online activity, you are giving them the ability to do this stuff so much more easily. And it won't even stop porn or children from accessing porn. Any idiot can make porn.

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

When I buy booze they scan my State ID and a government provided system tells them if I am ok to buy booze. They don't keep my ID on file.

Why couldn't this be made available to adult content providers? No, I won't provide you my ID Mr. Pornsite, I will however provide it to GovIDCheck.GOV and it'll return an API call saying yes or no, and rather than my ID you can just store that. Mandate a reasonable re-check (my local candy store cards me every time despite knowing me, cause they have to) of say, once every 14 or 30 days, and we're good. Problem solved. (Right now they take a credit card and put a $1 hold on it to do more or less the same thing.)

This would be the most ideal way to do it, but the problem is no politician or lobbyist would ever go for a measure this simple and hands-off.
Who's gonna hire Congressman Shillworth's retarded black daughter if he doesn't create a new Federal Bureau of Pornography for her to sit on her ass and pretend to work in? How will Congressman Shillworth's top campaign contributor, Mr. Zogenstein, make back his investment if the government doesn't give his company a plum contract to have his top software engineer Saar Jeetus develop a draconian surveillance system that'll allow the FBP to collect and profile the personal information of everyone in the system?

In order to predict what a future law will be like, you need to imagine it from the perspective of a self-serving career politician, because that's who's going to be writing it 9 times out of 10.

 

[George Lucas]

I see a lot of people in this thread referring to porn as a vice, but isn’t it actually adultery, i.e. a sin? A vice would be something like drinking or gambling where it isn’t necessarily wrong but can lead to a sinful life if allowed to excess.

Since hentai is not of an actual person, does that count as adultery?

 

[Oeselian Chad]

Since hentai is not of an actual person, does that count as adultery?

Yes cause unlike what the jews believe, there is no tricking god and you will still go to hell. Probably an even deeper level of hell since hentai is not of real people and thus is unnatural like faggotry and zoophilia, and that most hentai is also really fucking degenerate and for some reason need to include rape.

 

[Lian Xing]

I've no idea what could be done to fix it that wouldn't involve massive government overreach.

Kill all the pornographers, but then you’ll be accused of genocide.

 

[Oeselian Chad]

Kill all the pornographers, but then you’ll be accused of genocide.

Holocausting and anti semitism, to be more accurate

 

[Wash away the rain]

In my opinion the first place to start with the online porn issue is to outlaw making profit from porn. If you treat people making profit from making porn as pimps and prostitutes in the legal system I think it would do a lot in the long term as far as removing the glamorization of porn and being a whore for a living.

I'm not too opposed to requiring ID for porn sites because I'm just not convinced it will balloon out to the entirety of the internet. It seems like a huge leap in logic to me. Especially when we already have to use an ID to get alcohol or the likes and that's never been expanded to "You will need an ID to buy caffeine, man!"

They said that shit about gay marriage and look at where we are now slippery slope is only a fallacy because psudo intellectuals needed a way to argue against people who made an argument they couldn’t beat by appealing to midwits.

also a zoomer and this is true 99% of zoomer "humor" revolves around porn or sex

Also zoomer, the reason why that happened is because we had unrestricted access to the internet with no supervision because our gen x parents and millennial teachers were too retarded to realize how damaging it was to us. Half the reason we are in this mess is because we were raised by the two generations of people who didn’t learn how to parent or were rebelling against normal parent norms.
Edit: fucking double post mods if you see this can you merge my post sorry I thought the thread would flow faster.
E2: thanks mods

 

[quaawaa]

Another Indian-Pakistani ceasefire tweet:

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[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Fellow octopi, what the fuck is he talking about? Are we not racist enough?

It was pulled out of the cabinet when Greta Thunberg abandoned climate advocacy to start supporting Hammas with an octopus plush in frame.

 

[cheese shaped mouse]

Given we are only just past the first hundred days of Trump in office, the language around ICE and its agents has become very precise online at a rapid clip for even the average joe, namely: With the state of due process for people facing deportation under question, and the manner in which ICE agents are behaving (read: masked, refusal to identify, the fact half of them look like they're larping), that justifies and demands protecting yourself with a firearm.

The seeming "radicalization" towards pushing 2A rights so rapidly after decades of minimal progress on gun control from the left is interesting. I don't think it's going to be shocking to anyone if things escalate, particularly with how upsetting it seemed people found the recent Massachusetts footage.

 

[marvlouslie]

You guys really want the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT to have an insecure server (that can be easily hacked) that stores digital IDs of US CITIZENS and their own personal weird sexual fetishes? Holy fuck, I knew the Farms were filled with retards, but this takes the fucking cake. Acting like this bullshit won't be turned against you in the long run. First it's something you dislike that's being looked at. What happens when it's something you like? Then what? Yum, yum, that government boot sure do taste good, don't it?
I just find it highly amusing that people on a site that's known for being fucked with by the governments of the world are being internet hall monitors.

 

[browserbowser]

Another Indian-Pakistani ceasefire tweet:
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Taking bets on if the retards in Pakistan and India can keep from tearing at each other's nutsacks for hours, days, or weeks.

I'm betting on within five weeks.