UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

DreinMeinVein · May 14, 2025

Morethanabitfoolish said:
I'm considering a self-enforced ban on Optimism reactions in this thread for Pride month this year because you all are making me use up my rainbow supply.

That's right, coming up next for Labour it's LGTBTQ+ month. I wonder if Kier will be welcome at the parades this year?

The self-identified queers ran away from Labour last year.

Owen Jones (a weathervane, if you want to know the zeitgeist among lefty student gay retard losers) left Labour in March 2024. He claims to back the Green Party now, who these days are less a protest vote for environmentalists; much more of a tranny revolution party for sickos. Jones said he left Labour because of Gaza. I say he quit the party because Starmer began to flipflop over chicks with dicks – when transgenderism ends it'll be Owen Jones seen as the media's Faggot In Chief.
Don't bother reading this...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies

But maybe watch his interview with Morgan...

https://youtu.be/KRChIzbR3vc

in which he asks Piers "in ten years time, what if you're wrong?" without questioning his own position. There's also a funny video where Owen rants at the TERFs

All this to say that Labour's only rep at the gay parades will be Nadia fucking Whittome. The queers have disinvited the Labour government from their pervert marches, and in doing so have hammered another nail into the pink coffin. Kier and friends know that they'll be heckled at Pride, so they will steer well clear. As a result, LGBTQIAP+ will lose even more relevance. Good.
I'm actually looking forward to it this year.

Made In Wales · May 14, 2025

DreinMeinVein said:
The self-identified queers ran away from Labour last year.

Owen Jones (a weathervane, if you want to know the zeitgeist among lefty student gay retard losers) left Labour in March 2024. He claims to back the Green Party now, who these days are less a protest vote for environmentalists; much more of a tranny revolution party for sickos. Jones said he left Labour because of Gaza. I say he quit the party because Starmer began to flipflop over chicks with dicks – when transgenderism ends it'll be Owen Jones seen as the media's Faggot In Chief.
Don't bother reading this...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies
But maybe watch his interview with Morgan...

https://youtu.be/KRChIzbR3vc
in which he asks Piers "in ten years time, what if you're wrong?" without questioning his own position. There's also a funny video where Owen rants at the TERFs

All this to say that Labour's only rep at the gay parades will be Nadia fucking Whittome. The queers have disinvited the Labour government from their pervert marches, and in doing so have hammered another nail into the pink coffin. Kier and friends know that they'll be heckled at Pride, so they will steer well clear. As a result, LGBTQIAP+ will lose even more relevance. Good.
I'm actually looking forward to it this year.

Labour running out of supporters who once felt loved and wanted within the party... imagine my shock!

Welsh Labour and their representatives apparently 'won't be welcome' at the Welsh PRIDE event in Cardiff this Summer, though Plaid and Greens will have some representation.

anklyscr · May 14, 2025

DreinMeinVein said:
The self-identified queers ran away from Labour last year.

Owen Jones .

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies

My mother bought me a Labour membership as a 15th birthday present.

Stopped reading right there.

teriyakiburns · May 14, 2025

FedPostalService said:
You’ll need the mother of all scandals for them to call an election.

You don't. A steady drumbeat of scandals that reaches a tiping point can also bring it about. All you need is for the party to be openly divided and for one faction to see more benefit in forcing an election than suffering through the status quo.

I can anticipate a couple of ways for it to happen.

The most direct is a simple vote of no confidence, which could happen if enough labour MPs decide that the possibility of losing now, vs the inevitability of losing in 2029, is a decent enough gamble. That would also be the funniest outcome. If you start seeing mass resignations, this is a very likely outcome.

Alternatively, Starmer could face a leadership challenge. The way the labour leadership process works means there's a delay between the appearance of a challenge and the actual process starting, which leaves Starmer with a choice: go down as a failed leader who was ousted by his party, or trigger an election, which either gains him the support from the electorate to obviate the leadership challenge, or lays the responsibility for his defeat on the plebs rather than his own failings. He can salve his conscience with the belief that the racist yobbos failed him in his hour of need. A GE also delays the leadership process.

Finally, Starmer could be challenged and lose, and the new leader could call an election to establish a mandate - or, depending in their stance, could face a no confidence vote from an opposing wing of the party. Remember that the labour leader isn't soley elected by the PLP, so the sitting MPs could end up with a leader they fundamentally oppose, at a point when the party is in crisis and the electorate is demanding blood.

As for why Starmer might face a challenge: He is a control freak. Ministers have no autonomy whatsoever, beyond anything even Blair could have imagined. The entire cabinet marches to the tune set by Starmer's chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney.

DreinMeinVein said:
The self-identified queers ran away from Labour last year.

The ones that have run to the left of Labour are the activists and the tranny-supporters, who have swarmed to the greens as the party of contrarian degeneracy. They are a minority of the so-called community, with disproportionate attention given to them by the media-political class. Gay normies (if such a thing could be said to exist) still orbit around the lib/lab barycentre, with a contingent sidling over to reform and the tories for their overtly anti-trans stance.

Made In Wales · May 14, 2025

anklyscr said:
Stopped reading right there.

It's quite funny though that Owen Jones, Steve Bray and Netanya Smith, who were previously beating the drums for Labour because 'Tories are scum' have now backtracked because Labour is too toxic for even them.

The Lib Dems have already said that they are targeting the Middle Class Europhile Tories, whilst the Greens are attracting the trust-fund woke kids.

This means that Reform UK are now the de facto Socialists/Working Class party.

The Gatekeepers have had their day.

@teriyakiburns My thoughts exactly re: a Leadership challenge and a GE. Very well put!

Morethanabitfoolish · May 14, 2025

DreinMeinVein said:
Kier and friends know that they'll be heckled at Pride, so they will steer well clear.

Shame, I was hoping Angela would read the room wrong, turn up and get the TERF treatment.

teriyakiburns · May 14, 2025

MET have dropped their investigation into Rupert Lowe.

Statement (live)

edit: Farage needs to go, but he likely won't go voluntarily. It's the labour problem in miniature when you think about it; seated MPs beholden to the leader, all power concentrated in the leader, any process to evict the leader could also destroy the party. Leader has a paki hand up his jacksie.

Overly Serious · May 14, 2025

With the size of their majority only a major Labour rebellion could pass a confidence motion that would lead to a General Election. Even Starmer must know that calling one to bolster his position would (a) lead to a bloodbath of Labour seats and (b) only delay the inevitable a year or two at most. I think even if forced out, the Labour party would have to have enough discipline to manage the process without calling a General Election - it's mutually assured destruction for half their seats.

I think it's more use to try and foresee what's going to happen in the UK without the pressure valve of a GE happening to divert people.

So, now that the pretext for ejecting Rupert Lowe from Reform is quite exploded, what do people think of the chances he'll be let back in? Up above the streets and houses, rainbows flying high?

Spud · May 14, 2025

Overly Serious said:
Rupert Lowe from Reform is quite exploded, what do people think of the chances he'll be let back in?

If you think it'll happen, then DM me. I have a bridge I'm looking to sell.

Smyrna · May 14, 2025

Rupert does not want back into Reform. He explicitly states in his letter that there will be an alternative.

Otterly · May 14, 2025

Smyrna said:
Rupert does not want back into Reform. He explicitly states in his letter that there will be an alternative.

Which splits the vote again.

Made In Wales · May 14, 2025

Overly Serious said:
With the size of their majority only a major Labour rebellion could pass a confidence motion that would lead to a General Election. Even Starmer must know that calling one to bolster his position would (a) lead to a bloodbath of Labour seats and (b) only delay the inevitable a year or two at most. I think even if forced out, the Labour party would have to have enough discipline to manage the process without calling a General Election - it's mutually assured destruction for half their seats.

I think it's more use to try and foresee what's going to happen in the UK without the pressure valve of a GE happening to divert people.

So, now that the pretext for ejecting Rupert Lowe from Reform is quite exploded, what do people think of the chances he'll be let back in? Up above the streets and houses, rainbows flying high?

It depends upon whether or not he is left with a choice.

Any more bad news and Starmer could face a VONC, but would he be that brave/stupid to say 'well, if I can't be PM anymore, I'll make sure that nobody else in Labour can.'

Remember that it's about him and nobody else, he doesn't even trust or like Angela Rayner - he'd rather delegate responsibility to Wes Streeting when he's out of the country, not following protocol and procedure.

Starmer thinks that he is the party - he doesn't care if Labour get beaten into a bloody pulp by the electorate next time out, he'll be swanning around the great institutes (academic, sadly, instead of mental where he belongs) and charging thousands of pounds for speeches whilst either Nigel or Ed has to clear up the Uniparty's mess.

The Labour Party's backroom team may have some discipline, but does Starmer - a man who believes in himself first and everybody else a very distant second.

As for Rupert Lowe, I would guess that he'll join another party soon. No chance of reconciliation with Nigel, that ship has sailed.

Speaking of Starmer, attacks on him are 'an attack on democracy'...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn05xplrjz8o

Oh, and he's feeling the heat from both sides after the immigration speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66IKu0_czkw&ab_channel=TalkTV

Smyrna · May 14, 2025

Otterly said:
Which splits the vote again.

Rupert's comment does leave the possibility open that he would join the Tories, but I agree that this is not likely.

I personally am confident that Reform's current trajectory will not be sustained through to the next GE, for a number of reasons, and that building up an alternative is a worthwhile endeavour.

>IMPLYING · May 14, 2025

Overly Serious said:
he'll be let back in?

I'm reluctant to be certain on some things but Lowe re-entering Reform is one I'm certain won't happen. He's shit on Reform for so long now that it would probably negatively affect perception of him if he went back in with anything less than just being given party leadership. This might be mitigated if Reform and Farage both made public apologies, extended an open offer to accept him back in but I don't think they'll do that either. Too much bad blood essentially.

Whoopsie Daisy · May 14, 2025

Lowe, as leader of the tories, offering an olive branch to Labour to form a coalition to stop Niggel farage and reform?

or

Paki led reform form a coalition with paki led labour to make a super paki party?

What's more likely?

Made In Wales · May 14, 2025

>IMPLYING said:
I'm reluctant to be certain on some things but Lowe re-entering Reform is one I'm certain won't happen. He's shit on Reform for so long now that it would probably negatively affect perception of him if he went back in with anything less than just being given party leadership. This might be mitigated if Reform and Farage both made public apologies, extended an open offer to accept him back in but I don't think they'll do that either. Too much bad blood essentially.

He's apparently starting up a new party to counter Reform UK.

Well, good luck to him - smaller Right Wing parties aren't going anywhere, just look at Heritage, Reclaim, UKIP, Abolish The Welsh Assembly (if they still exist), Britain First, the British National Party and the National Front. None of them are exactly making any waves in the way Reform UK are.

I'll admit that Nigel is far from perfect, and he does have a habit of self-sabotage, but the party and the movement behind it matters more and Nigel is the means to the end to get it into power.

He will be PM but only for a short while, and as I've said before (change the record, I know) building solid foundations for the future and getting younger blood into the party is way more important.

Reform UK can't be a 'here and gone' party with politics reverting to only Bad Red and Bad Blue, it has to mean something which the majority of people agree with not just today but way into the future.

Despite the Lowe affair, sad as it is (I have to say that I still like and respect him) Reform UK are still polling well and are more than likely to form the next Government - things are good for us, but we cannot be complacent and we also have to be ready for our chance when it comes.

Starmer gives the 'V-sign' to Eluned Morgan and Wales...

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/uk-government-minister-bats-away-31637855

DreinMeinVein · May 14, 2025

teriyakiburns said:
The ones that have run to the left of Labour are the activists and the tranny-supporters, who have swarmed to the greens as the party of contrarian degeneracy. They are a minority of the so-called community, with disproportionate attention given to them by the media-political class. Gay normies (if such a thing could be said to exist) still orbit around the lib/lab barycentre, with a contingent sidling over to reform and the tories for their overtly anti-trans stance.

I strongly agree. Totally.
I chose my words carefully – "the self identified queers". Not gaylords or lezzas.

Hate me. I'm somewhat okay with Mr & Mr Wright and Ms & Ms Smith. Bum/scissor away. I don't really care. Fag in peace, normal gays. Don't catch VD.
There's a subsection – the queers – and they are a voting block.

Labour has a few groups of core voters:

OLD BOY UNIONISTS
Tradesmen who aren't self employed. Nationalise everything.

MUSLIMS
They love Labour. I don't know why.

STUDENTS
They want the world to be kind. Hopefully they will be rich enough to pay their taxes, for tranny crotch surgery and a monthly DD to Amnesty International.

GAYS. AND QUEERS
Because section 28 happened when Labour were in opposition. Damned dirty Tories. Also they hope that drag queens become saints.

BORING BASTARDS
People who vote Labour because they aren't Tory. Tories are mean meanies, right?

PEOPLE ON BENNIES
More government pennies to them, hopefully.

The queers don't support Labour anymore. Nor the students. Benefits are cut. The unions are shafted too.

Labour is now only the party of the guilty-feeling middle class.
These are the only voters to give Labour their X.

>IMPLYING · May 14, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
Lowe, as leader of the tories, offering an olive branch to Labour to form a coalition to stop Niggel farage and reform?

Replace Labour with Lib Dems and it'll be more accurate. Lib Dems harked on about buying British steel and buying local so they're quicker in being knee jerk to show off their patriotism 'tism. Plus precedent. If Labour get thrashed to the point that only the Tories and Lib dems can eek out control of Parliament over Reform because of a hung parliament, that's what you'll get. Then again Lib Dems are pretty much the whores of British politics so they're just as likely to go with Reform if Farage sweetened the deal (plus Farage can scapegoat them for fucking over his immigration plans, just like the Tories did).

Whilst looking some stuff up (seeing if there was any sentiments for such a party right now), I found out there was actually a Muslim party prior, from 1989 to 2006. The Islamic party of Britain. Their outward 'policies' would probably be the same today (sans the gay comments) until they becamemore entrenched.

The party believed in equal treatment under the law regardless of an individual's status, income or ethnicity. The IPB argued that religion is the most important thing in life.[7] It called for reform of the British banking system to make it interest-free and Islamic, and for increased trade with the Islamic world.[1] At one time, the party answered questions sent in by readers of its website.[8] When answering one question, the party argued that homosexuality needed treatment, was not to be tolerated and that homosexuals should be put to death for a "public display of lewdness",[9] a policy that was condemned by gay activist Peter Tatchell.[6]

Paki led reform form a coalition with paki led labour to make a super paki party?

We won't see a Paki led Labour. But Reform being led by that Yusuf is a long-shot possibility that feels more likely, if only slightly. They could justify a coalition with a potentially splintered Labour, or rather, a Muslim-party splintered from Labour + Independents assuming they're playing the optics game like I mentioned in one of your other hypotheticals (if this happens it'll happen closer to the GE and requires another big catalyst for them to justify the split).

Hung parliament, Reform at the edge of achieving a majority. Tories made a similar arrangement with the DUP (remember that?) small blatantly Muslim-party playing optics for now might be worth a tarnished image — you probably wouldn't have to promise too much to get them on board: stopping arms exports to Israel, no restrictions on the Muslim faith (no banning of religious slaughter, hijabs, etcetera), no caps on immigration numbers (restrictions might be introduced but we've seen how ineffectual they are). There'd be enough cope that it's "better than nothing" on the Right and assuming free speech stuff makes progress in legislation even I could offer a bit (If I went that far in my optimism I should just shoot myself). It's also a strategy that allows Reform to blame a lack of majority rule on inaction, just like Cameron wasn't shy of doing during the Lib Dem coalition.

David Cameron has revealed he keeps a "little black book" of policies blocked by the Liberal Democrats which he plans to implement if the Conservatives win the next general election outright.
Speaking to the Spectator magazine, the prime minister said he passionately wants to escape the constraints of the coalition and govern at the head of a single-party government.

Cameron indicated that a Tory-only government after the 2015 election would deliver more radical action on welfare reform, Europe, the Human Rights Act and support for enterprise.

Made In Wales said:
Well, good luck to him - smaller Right Wing parties aren't going anywhere

Largely because of Farage gatekeeping and because they decide on things without gathering all the details first (like when they put that former femboy BAME fetishist in charge in Northern Ireland). Make sure everybody is on the same level and in agreement, then all take a step forward. The smaller ones keep taking that step but not in unison so they just look like a chaotic mess and nobody online who can do free marketing for them wants to enable them. Reform was largely on the same page since 2021 and organised; the recent debacle with inconsistency and Lowe's departure largely came about from Zia Yusuf joining the party in early July 2024 and forcing Farage to massively soften his rhetoric.

I think it was just awful timing on their part too. They made an internet-deaf judgement of the recent election and assumed they needed some kind of optics shield for the next GE. They might've thought against it if Southport had happened earlier, or maybe they just needed his money, who knows. In that leaked sports club talk from the former-Tory now Reform candidate, he said Reform hoped to form a coalition to force electoral reform (proportional representation), so maybe Yusuf was added to make them more defensible to any other party that did decide on such a coalition? Their massive rise in the polls likely came as a surprise to everybody involved, but now Yusuf is stuck to them like a tick.

And say what you want about Farage, he at least has personality. I honestly couldn't tell you the leaders of the other parties without looking them up. They're either quiet, too retarded and autistic, or act aloof in such a way that makes them seem like a grifter or a fed. I hope Lowe achieves something. If he acts on camera like he does on twitter, he might achieve some staying power.

DreinMeinVein said:
GAYS. AND QUEERS

This group I'd say are Lib Dem nowadays. Labour abandoning trannies + Lib Dems forcing gay marriage in the coalition might've made them migrate.

Eekum Bokum · May 14, 2025

WEEKEND said:
Fantastic! When are we kicking out the niggers, pakis and jeeets? Wait, we ARE kicking out the browns right?

Well, The illegal ones I think we are. The legal ones probably not.

Morethanabitfoolish · May 14, 2025

DreinMeinVein said:
MUSLIMS
They love Labour. I don't know why.

Because Labour hate telling them "no." No matter how bad what they are getting up to is. Go look up Jess Philips' last election in Birmingham, that woman was desperate to name exactly who were the groups that made it the most vicious campaign she had been in. And had she done so her career would have been over the second it left her mouth.

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

DreinMeinVein

Made In Wales

anklyscr

Seriously. Tits on a ghost

teriyakiburns

If a cow got the chance, he'd eat you!

Made In Wales

Morethanabitfoolish

Bruh.

teriyakiburns

If a cow got the chance, he'd eat you!

Overly Serious

Spud

Don your spiritual armour, there's no time.

Smyrna

Otterly

Primark Primarch

Made In Wales

Smyrna

>IMPLYING

Whoopsie Daisy

Ask me about how teen boys deserve to be molested

Made In Wales

DreinMeinVein

>IMPLYING

Eekum Bokum

Eekum Bokum

Morethanabitfoolish

Bruh.