Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

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  • Next Month

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  • This Year

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  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

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If only he knew another lawyer who had years of experience talking about what a retard Greer is. Oh well.
Don't think its wise for Hardin to be on MATI. The Farms' lawyer needs to have some degree of professional separation from the client. It could also come very close to being a breach of professional ethics. Not entirely, but it does create impropriety.
I think he's talking about Rekieta. Remember that Rekieta used to do the "Greerstreams."

Now Rekieta is a junkie child abusing fag who actually wants Greer to win, just to spite Null.

I made this observation in the Rekieta thread today. Linking to this thread. It's Nick's loss, really. Old Nick would have found what's going on here hilarious.

And can probably get Sean to stream for a couple sandwiches.
Sean would be his best option now, yeah. Sean has already gone over some of Hardin's motions on his show.
 
Don't think its wise for Hardin to be on MATI. The Farms' lawyer needs to have some degree of professional separation from the client. It could also come very close to being a breach of professional ethics. Not entirely, but it does create impropriety.
He can't do anything like that till the case is done. Even after that, he can't do anything that might imply we would expect special treatment from him in the future. We could send him some trivial gift like a Hickory Farms basket as a token of gratitude after the case is over, mabye, but even something like that he has to report to the ethics board.
 
He can't do anything like that till the case is done. Even after that, he can't do anything that might imply we would expect special treatment from him in the future. We could send him some trivial gift like a Hickory Farms basket as a token of gratitude after the case is over, mabye, but even something like that he has to report to the ethics board.
Yep, always a chance someone else could hire him to sue the farms. Or he could be representing someone and it would come up he would need to conduct discovery on the farms. This is why celebrity lawyers are often viewed with contempt. Its unprofessional to be constantly going on TV to opine on things. To be sure, there can be a time and place for such things when the case is being tried more in the court of public opinion then in the courts, which is why its not explicitly forbidden. But 99 times out of 100 its generally not something you should do.
 
Beautiful.

Also, the jury is out (heh) on whether he's too retarded to actually follow the instructions Utah gave him to get the copies of his own shit.

He isn't retarded, LiveFromNS has it absolutely right:
Greer is also a devious and conniving little rat.
He's committed perjury several times in the last ten days and is a proven liar. He will do anything to look after the most important person in the world, R G Greer. He doesn't care about his family or anyone else. He's a manipulative little fuck too - remember when he threatened to kill himself on Erica's porch when she wouldn't date him?

I just had the funniest idea.
If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, you should definitely do it.
 
Yep, always a chance someone else could hire him to sue the farms. Or he could be representing someone and it would come up he would need to conduct discovery on the farms.
There are duties to former clients that would limit him in those circumstances.
Rule 1.9: Duties to Former Clients

(a) A lawyer who has formerly represented a client in a matter shall not thereafter represent another person in the same or a substantially related matter in which that person's interests are materially adverse to the interests of the former client unless the former client gives informed consent, confirmed in writing.

(b) A lawyer shall not knowingly represent a person in the same or a substantially related matter in which a firm with which the lawyer formerly was associated had previously represented a client
(1) whose interests are materially adverse to that person; and
(2) about whom the lawyer had acquired information protected by Rules 1.6 and 1.9(c) that is material to the matter; unless the former client gives informed consent, confirmed in writing.

(c) A lawyer who has formerly represented a client in a matter or whose present or former firm has formerly represented a client in a matter shall not thereafter:
(1) use information relating to the representation to the disadvantage of the former client except as these Rules would permit or require with respect to a client, or when the information has become generally known; or
(2) reveal information relating to the representation except as these Rules would permit or require with respect to a client.
 
I made a joke previously about how Russ' motto should be Credo Ergo Est "I believe, therefore it is", and it just keeps getting truer.
credo ergo est.webp
:story:
Possible, but given his focus on a particular parcel and sperging about Gilman, this is my guess.

draw.webp
Alright, we'll call it a draw.
 
Don't think its wise for Hardin to be on MATI. The Farms' lawyer needs to have some degree of professional separation from the client. It could also come very close to being a breach of professional ethics. Not entirely, but it does create impropriety.
I disagree on it being an ethical violation of any sort. Part of the job of a lawyer is being a public advocate, as well as a legal advocate.

However, I do agree on the general optics. That's a different issue, though.

I don't think your concerns are incorrect, though, considering the absolute disaster involving Rekieta and Beard. They were smugly dunking on the defendants while Beard's firm was filing absolute trash (after the deadline btw) with invalid notarizations and literally "lost the case again" for real.

While they were gloating and drinking, Sam Johnson, the only actual real lawyer worthy of the name in the entire case, was rapidly figuring out the killshot that utterly destroyed Beard and his bullshit.

Let's not also forget that the late-filed botched document that nuked the case from orbit thanks to Johnson was also a complete dog's breakfast full of typos, shit like changing fonts in the middle of the Table of Authorities, and absolutely amateurish formatting. Okay, I'm bitter I got flooded with tism ratings for even caring about that but I was right. (I definitely deserve tism ratings for still being at least mildly mad about it.
Butthurt. It fades. But it never entirely vanishes.)
Its unprofessional to be constantly going on TV to opine on things.
It seriously depends on the case and your job. Often, especially in a publicly visible case, either the other lawyer or a criminal prosecutor is going out in public and openly trashing the client's reputation. The client could win the case and completely lose at life forever after because despite the ultimate victory, the public still assumes the client is a rapist, murderer, whatever, and maybe only got off because of a shyster defense lawyer.

A competent lawyer should be considering all elements of the effects of a legal proceeding on the client, including potentially catastrophic damage to reputation.

That said, I again agree I don't think a MATI appearance would be a good idea at this time, but it's really up to the two of them, not to me. I just agree it would be "problematic." Probably.
There are duties to former clients that would limit him in those circumstances.
I've cited that rule multiple times in reference to Robert Barnes, who has a propensity to talk shit about former clients including our own Dear Feeder. I don't think he's necessarily crossed the line in violating the letter of that rule, but one should beware a lawyer who can't stop talking shit about former clients or their choice of replacement counsel, as that foppish popinjay did to Rittenhouse's (winning) legal team after he was unceremoniously fired from the Rittenhouse team, who rejected his idea of turning the case into some giddy conservalard crusade instead of just focusing on the obvious (and ultimately winning) self-defense issue.
 
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It would be hilarious if Gilman did decide to sell, and then the lady who purchased and demolished the Cherry Patch came and bought it.
Maybe the town will just vote to ban prostitution specifically so Greer never shows up there again. They seem happy with there being no brothels in town and the nearest active brothels being in Reno or Battle Mountain.
 
I made this observation in the Rekieta thread today. Linking to this thread. It's Nick's loss, really. Old Nick would have found what's going on here hilarious.
I found Nick through Null going on his Greer streams. Those were really good KAHNtent
Yep, always a chance someone else could hire him to sue the farms. Or he could be representing someone and it would come up he would need to conduct discovery on the farms. This is why celebrity lawyers are often viewed with contempt. Its unprofessional to be constantly going on TV to opine on things. To be sure, there can be a time and place for such things when the case is being tried more in the court of public opinion then in the courts, which is why its not explicitly forbidden. But 99 times out of 100 its generally not something you should do.
This is a bit off-topic, but I think the real reason Lawyers going on TV is looked down upon is being able to explain the law to millions of people is an enormous amount of power over the legal system. Before social media all information that most people got came from just a few places. A couple of famous lawyers could really influence things in certain directions. Not saying whether this is bad or good but simply that is true.
 
HOLD. THE FUCK. UP.

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"Could open in June."

Obviously, we know that he lies on a constant basis even though his lips don't move. But there's always some grain of something in his peabrain that makes him think his lies are possible or at least faintly plausible. What is going on here?
This is honestly the most batshit thing about the whole presentation. Not the "take a motel and give it to me". Not "lithium miners need whores". The "I could open this shit in 45 days or less" from the guy who can't mail a document given 6 months.
It's going to cost him FIFTEEN DOLLARS. As that's the maximum fee in Nevada apparently.

Also, nicely done Russell, you just filed a document with the court telling them you waited over a week to even TRY and get the documents. (See timestamp on bottom of screenshot.)
I FUCKING CALLED IT!
 
Nice idea, but as an appointed officer of the government, she is probably prohibited from accepting gifts.

If you send some nice flowers she can put in the office, I don't think that would be a problem. Then everyone gets to enjoy them so it isn't a "gift" in the traditional sense. That's how we deal with "gifts" in the medical world, if you get anything in a way you can't return it (it was shipped, no return address, it was a delivery [like flowers]) you just put it out for the entire office.
 
It would be hilarious if Gilman did decide to sell, and then the lady who purchased and demolished the Cherry Patch came and bought it.
I still wanna do the thing where we ask that lady if we can erect a bronze statue of Null on the property.

A Kiwifarms flag would work too, if a statue is too elaborate.

(I am kidding, of course, but still).
 
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