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Should be a wild four years.

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Rubio is seriously becoming Trump's Sanji, and I'm impressed. Tim Kaine wanting rapefugees but no whiteys and Rubio calls him on it, even does a GenX shut up boomer moment about how he was in 9th grade when apartheid ended so who cares:

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What I love the most about his moments like this is that it’s clearly just trolling and they always go batshit. Soyboy here sounded so pissed off.
Here’s a tip Notus, normal people aren’t so insecure when someone discounts their profession
 
They straight-up fabricated National Guard memos and ran a 60 minute special on them to try to flip the election to Kerry. This was after four straight years of calling him Hitler and Code Pink bleeding out the wherever all over the Capitol.
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Never heard of this, but sounds like a direct equivalent to the Steel Dossier.
 
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Never heard of this, but sounds like a direct equivalent to the Steel Dossier.
Google "Rathergate."

TL; DR - they made fake National Guard memos about Bush's time there, but since journoscum are fucking stupid, they typed them up in MS Word and ran them through a copier a few times to make them look old. Some blogger immediately spotted the fake and showed that the kerning matched MS Word's defaults exactly and could not possibly have been produced by a typewriter. Dan Rather and the rest of the MSM stood by the story until it was beyond parody; CBS finally cut him lose to try and save face.

I've never forgotten since then that the press will go as far as fabricating evidence to try and tilt politics to the Democrats.
 
It wouldn't surprise me, they have no principles. Hell, they were praising even Dick Cheney for not supporting Trump, much less W. And they literally worshipped Liz Cheney and somehow thought SHE'D help their cause when everyone left and right hates her.
It will forever amuse me that her and her family are so fucking hated by everyone that her endorsement quantifiably hurt Kamala's campaign.
 

I don't understand why it's not easily recyclable anymore. Can you elaborate? I'm not arguing, I don't know anything about it really but caught that video above a few years ago and it seemed relatively straight forward.
it is "easily" recyclable in a technical sense (just melt it down)
but it doesn't make economic sense to do so. the raw material used to make glass (quartz sand) is really cheap and widely available, it is much easier for a glass factory to just buy tons of sand from a mining company rather than go through the logistical nightmare of collecting a million shittyused glass bottles from all around the city.
there's simply no point to recycling something that is available in abundance and dirt cheap to produce.
 
Google "Rathergate."

TL; DR - they made fake National Guard memos about Bush's time there, but since journoscum are fucking stupid, they typed them up in MS Word and ran them through a copier a few times to make them look old. Some blogger immediately spotted the fake and showed that the kerning matched MS Word's defaults exactly and could not possibly have been produced by a typewriter. Dan Rather and the rest of the MSM stood by the story until it was beyond parody; CBS finally cut him lose to try and save face.

I've never forgotten since then that the press will go as far as fabricating evidence to try and tilt politics to the Democrats.
This is starting to sound familiar. I was familiar with politics from a really early age (I’d listen to FOX in the background while drawing with crayons) but it was so long ago I never heard about it, didn’t remember.

Holy shit.

I grew up with a super Republican ideologue Pa, but my personal moment like that was the George Zimmerman slander campaign. And a phase the Democrat media went through, for a while, of wildly speculating on every mass shooter being a Republican terrorist.
 
it is "easily" recyclable in a technical sense (just melt it down)
but it doesn't make economic sense to do so. the raw material used to make glass (quartz sand) is really cheap and widely available, it is much easier for a glass factory to just buy tons of sand from a mining company rather than go through the logistical nightmare of collecting a million shittyused glass bottles from all around the city.
there's simply no point to recycling something that is available in abundance and dirt cheap to produce.
Just melt it down at home. Every man should be able to make Glass Armor at his house, what are you, a low armorer skill chump? This will become a reality if you vote Howard 2028. All outlanders will die and America will be cleansed of N'wahs with execution footage streamed in 64k, that's 16 times the detail of normal execution footage folks!
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it is "easily" recyclable in a technical sense (just melt it down)
but it doesn't make economic sense to do so. the raw material used to make glass (quartz sand) is really cheap and widely available, it is much easier for a glass factory to just buy tons of sand from a mining company rather than go through the logistical nightmare of collecting a million shittyused glass bottles from all around the city.
there's simply no point to recycling something that is available in abundance and dirt cheap to produce.
As I understand another problem is that you can't un-color glass if it's recycled, so if you want to make clear glass again then you have to start with clear bottles. I suspect there are a lot fewer clear bottles than there used to be. I know it's sometimes obvious when you get insulation made with recycled glass since it's sort of dirty colored instead of the nice itchy pink ones.
 
This is 100% unedited footage of the anti-Trump protest in the city of Asheville, NC over the weekend.

What immediately jumps out at you about the protestors?

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That they're old as fuck

That's the tangential surface level observation. What isn't immediately noticeable is that all of these people were on the NGO dole and had their heads ripped out of the trough.

They're out protesting because they no longer have the money to pay young people to do it in their stead.
 
Google "Rathergate."

TL; DR - they made fake National Guard memos about Bush's time there, but since journoscum are fucking stupid, they typed them up in MS Word and ran them through a copier a few times to make them look old. Some blogger immediately spotted the fake and showed that the kerning matched MS Word's defaults exactly and could not possibly have been produced by a typewriter. Dan Rather and the rest of the MSM stood by the story until it was beyond parody; CBS finally cut him lose to try and save face.

I've never forgotten since then that the press will go as far as fabricating evidence to try and tilt politics to the Democrats.
There would have been a handful of typewriters that could have done kerning in existence, but you wouldn't find them in a random TANG office. The other issue was that the terminology and abbreviations used were consistent with Army National Guard practices, but the memo was supposed to be from the Air National Guard-- and Rather's source for the document was a former Texas Army National Guard guy with a long history of anti-Bush sentiment.

I think the fallout from these revelations is where we got the "fake but accurate" spin from the press for the first time.

Well-respected, household name journalists were willing to torpedo their careers for the flimsiest chance to get Bush. Things weren't that different from today.
 
It's basically a Republican tradition since the founding of the party. Remember how Lincoln was frequently called a King and a tyrant?
And it turns out if you dig into it that most of the abuses were his subordinates. He actually had to keep tard wrangling the Union Army from shutting down newspapers. At the end of the War they had to send the Army in to stop Unionists in Kentucky and Missouri that loved suspending habeas corpus and didn’t want to go back to trials instead of just lynching everyone they disagreed with.

Regardless of whether any particular idea of Lincoln was good, much less that big question of secession, I’ve come to believe Lincoln really was a normal, chill dude.
 
Here's a US university in which all but 1 of the masters graduates are Indians. Listening to the podcast this came from, the STEM OPT visa is something fabricated by the Obama administration and it and others can be immediately cut by trump. H1-B is a bit more difficult to completely end since it was an act of congress, but there's still things he did in the first term that he has not re-implemented.
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Two Three ZH articles about the BBB (Big Beautiful Bill)

Property rights are under attack again.

A House Energy and Commerce proposal for the budget reconciliation bill would override state laws that protect landowners’ private property rights from being taken by Green New Deal carbon sequestration pipeline companies.

The proposal (in the photos below) blocks any state or local law that requires approval for a carbon pipeline’s location.

By taking away our right to approve or disapprove a carbon pipeline’s location, our people’s God-given private property rights and the landowner protections we’ve fought hard to put in place are dismantled. It strips our state of the power to ensure that these projects follow the law and do not pose a serious risk to health or safety. It infringes on our constitutional right to self-governance.

In South Dakota—and across the Midwest—our people have poured out their blood, sweat, and tears to defend private property rights. We’ve endured threats, intimidation, lawsuits, big money deceptive political campaigns, and a fake “landowner rights” bill drafted by carbon pipeline lobbyists that was really just a tool to take away local control.

We’ve said NO to these companies and this project again and again. We’ve passed landmark laws protecting landowner rights. But apparently, “no” doesn’t mean “no” to them—and now it looks like politicians in Washington are trying to give them federal power to take what isn’t theirs, for a project the people do not want.

The photo of the armed guard in the post below was taken on the land of a friend and fellow patriot who was made a prisoner on his own property—while a foreign-backed, out-of-state company brought armed guards to survey his land and force a dangerous carbon pipeline onto it. A pipeline he never wanted. That is not American freedom.

And now, some in Washington, D.C. want to force that on us again.

Why? Because some politically connected company cut a check to their campaign? Because they’ve never met a snake oil salesman lobbyist they didn’t want to pour out your tax money to? Because they stand to rake in billions in tax credits—funded by your hard-earned dollars? Because they’ve actually bought into the Green New Deal scam?

Enough is enough.

Make no mistake: we will stand up for the constitutional rights of our people—and our state’s constitutional right to make our own laws.

Congress, do the right thing: Kill this proposal, and then repeal the 45Q tax credit that’s funding this scam with our tax dollars.

Call Congress and demand it.
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The bill is design to front-load tax cuts and spending increases while back-loading deficit offsetting measures. A lot of this is coming from "experts". The same ones who said Trump's tarrifs were going to bankrupt the country and destroy the economy. So idk what to think. Among them are the Joint Committee on Taxation, Deutsche Bank, Bank of America, and Morgan Stanley.



Update (2135ET): Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) and moderate Republicans have tentatively agreed on a state and local tax (SALT) cap increase to $40,000 for individuals making $500,000 or less in income (no word on married couples) - with a 1% increase per year over 10 years, one source told The Hill Tuesday night.

That marks an increase from the $30,000 cap with a $400,000 income cap currently in the bill — a provision that SALT Caucus members vehemently rejected. The House Rules Committee is scheduled to convene at 1 a.m. Wednesday, during which the panel will consider changes to the bill.

While several members of the SALT Caucus are supportive of the plan, according to sources, Johnson will need to sell the proposal to hardline conservatives — including many in the House Freedom Caucus — who have been resistant to a significant hike to the deduction cap.
Members of the SALT Caucus met with Johnson into the evening - but upon leaving said that they did not yet have a 'firm' deal - though 'significant progress' had been made.

"We weren’t even in the same universe a couple of days ago. We’re on the same ballfield now," said Rep. Nick LaLota (R-NY).

THE SALT DEAL is coming together.

$40,000 deduction with a $500,000 cap. both the income and deduction limits escalate every year for a decade.

JOHNSON needs to sell this. but he will make the case that this is a better deal than what the SALTers were seeking. and, with rules…

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) May 21, 2025

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While Republicans hash out the details on the path to passing President Trump's 1,116-page 'Big, Beautiful Bill' - a key sticking point has emerged in regards to the state and local tax (SALT) deduction, which allows taxpayers who itemize to deduct state and local taxes (such as income and property taxes) from their federal taxable income. This primarily benefits rich taxpayers in high-tax states such as California, New York and New Jersey.

Tax writers on the House Ways and Means Committee have offered to raise the cap from its current $10,000 to $30,000 for joint filers making up to $400,000 per year - while Speaker Mike Johnson's most recent offer was a $40,000 cap for indivuduals / $80,000 for couples for four years at a $751,600 income limit.

The 'SALT Caucus,' meanwhile, are holding out for at least a $62,000 cap for individual filers, and $120,000 for couples before they'll vote 'yes' on the bill.

"I’m still a no on the Jason Smith number," said SALT Caucus member Rep. Nick LaLota (R-NY), referring to the $30,000 cap floated by House Ways and Means Chair Jason Smith (R-MO). "I hope that the president’s presence here today motivates everybody, especially my leadership, to give the SALT Caucus a number to which we could actually say yes."

The SALT cap is worth thousands of dollars in savings to millions of typically higher-income taxpayers who itemize vs. take the standard deduction. The cost to the rest of America for this would be around $1 trillion over the next decade, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.

Before 2017, the average SALT deduction was approximately $13,000, before it was capped at $10,000. In 2022, nearly 10% of all taxpayers used a SALT deduction.

Trump Drops F-Bomb

During a Tuesday meeting with House Republicans, President Donald Trump pressured Republicans to fall in line behind the bill and get it done - asking moderate Republicans from blue states to give up their SALT battle, while warning members not to "fuck with Medicaid," which some lawmakers have eyed for cuts.

"It’s not a question of holdouts. We have a tremendously unified party," Trump told reporters before the meeting. "There are some people who want a couple of things that maybe I don’t like or that they’re not going to get."

A White House official said Trump made clear in the meeting that he’s losing patience with all holdout factions of the conference, including the SALT Caucus and the House Freedom Caucus, and he insisted every Republican should vote “yes.”

His main requests to the conference were not to let SALT impede the bill, arguing Republicans can fight for SALT later on; not to touch Medicaid except for eliminating waste, fraud and abuse such as booting off those who entered the country illegally and instituting commonsense work requirements; and to stick together and get the bill done, a White House official told The Hill.

The president told lawmakers in the closed-door meeting to “let SALT go,” arguing concerns over the provision can’t get in the way of passing the bill. He signaled he was supportive of raising the SALT deduction from $10,000 to $30,000 for anyone making $400,000 or less — the proposal currently in the bill that members of the SALT Caucus have vocally rejected. -The Hill
Trump's appearance at the nearly two-hour meeting didn't move the needle much, however.

"The president I don’t think convinced enough people that the bill is adequate the way it is," said Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD), chair of the House Freedom Caucus, whose members are among the loudest critics of the massive spending package. "I can’t support it the way it is right now," Harris added.

Meanwhile, Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY), a prominent SALT Caucus member, said "While I respect the president, I’m not budging on it."

So, it all comes down to SALT.
 
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