This is often overlooked, and it isnt just the immediate pipe into the project every pipe up (supply) and downstream (sewage) is affected. In older city centers sewage and stormwater is usually mixed too which means an upgrade could require separating them. It's a lot of work, can mean years where a main street is dug up and completely redone.
I mentioned this in the Portland thread, Portland is one of the handful of cities (like seven) west of the Mississippi that
have combined systems. When it comes to blue-state development, it means that it doesn't affect the Los Angeles area, Eugene, the rest of the Seattle area (besides Seattle), the Bay Area (besides San Francisco), Colorado in its entirety, or Nevada in its entirety.
Most of the red and swing states don't have this issue with any of their major cities (Idaho, Arizona, Utah, Florida, Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arkansas, the Dakotas) because their cities tend to be younger.
You can tell these people don't have families because as soon as you get beyond 1 child it starts to become a logistical nightmare. My kids school is in walking distance and I was determined to have my oldest walk as much as was possible, but for a while I had to drop my oldest off at school and then take my 2nd child to a daycare an additional 10 min walk away.
Remember that I'm taking them to school/daycare so that I can then go to work. Am I supposed to then walk home afterward to go to my normal bus route? Hope there's one near my kid's daycare? Then how long does it take? I could be looking at 30 mins of drop off, followed by waiting 15 mins for a crummy bus near there, followed by transferring to another bus (good luck on timing that), then 40 mins to get near my work followed by another 10 min walk.
You're stubborn, I get it, do it anyway and find ways to optimize it. But then little kids get sick all the time and you will get called by daycare or school to come pick them up and you will be expected to be there within 30 mins. Unravel that bus and walking I just mentioned and it's just not going to happen.
It's very hard to get a daycare spot and you absolutely do not just want to take whatever is closest as there are some shockingly scary daycare operations, which is what a "15 min city" version of this would look like. No real options, just misery.
Instead I drive and take kids into school then go to work. If you think about it at scale this is similar in efficiency to a bus (maybe even better) especially since I drop my wife off at her work too.
Part of that is that they can't imagine using a car for anything than going to work and occasional trips to the store, not realizing that many peoples' logistics, commutes, and lifestyles are more difficult than just going to pre-determined points A, B, and maybe C.
"Police enforcing traffic laws for the first time ever against us bikefags is just like racial profiling guise". These freaks are so out there man. But it's such a great picture of their mindset. They've already Done The Right Thing™ so they are entitled to further act in any way they see fit. It's very clear the simplistic and ill way they view the world around them. I believe "the kids" are simplifying this sort of behavior/lengthy explanation down to Main Character Syndrome?
When it comes to the "us vs. them" a lot of their attacks on others are projections on themselves. They think that motorists want to run down anyone slower than them because that's what
they think. Losing a lane of traffic they think that motorists rise up in anger because losing a bike lane is basically the Holocaust.
The whole "cagers are angry, dangerous, and entitled" line probably comes from the fact that's what these sorts of cyclists
are.
