Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Irene and 22 others]

Something doesn't add up there. If he was broke and homeless last summer, there's no way he'd save up $5000 on a 14$/h sallary since then.

Some here have speculated that it's money that his parents have put aside for him to help him get back on his feet. The $5,000 may exist, but it may not really be his money. Whatever the case, it's clear that in Greer's mind it's already been earmarked for buying a brothel or otherwise getting him his penis sucked. Greer freaked out at the mere thought of his family being deposed and that suggests he wants to keep them in the dark about his "business" or is worried about what they might learn about him in the process. If dear old dad is helping with car payments or anything like that, I'm not sure how pleased he would be to find out Russel is driving half way across the state to talk cities into letting him open a brothel, which is why Russ doesn't like Hardin digging into that either and is trying to shut down public records requests either.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

Something doesn't add up there. If he was broke and homeless last summer, there's no way he'd save up $5000 on a 14$/h sallary since then.

He can be incredibly disciplined when he's working towards something he values. I fully believe he would sleep in his car rather than dip into his savings.
Russell has in the past, worked multiple jobs to save up hooker money. In the last 12 months he's had at least 4 months with no rent to pay and sold most of his stuff.
He lives on the cheapest food possible and I'm sure he takes advantage of church food parcels. Never buys clothes, toiletries or has haircuts. Does his laundry in the bathtub .Does not appear to pay for cable or associated services, doesn't buy books or magazines. Spends nothing on entertainment, gaming, sports or leisure except a low tier gym sub sometimes. Doesn't eat out, buy coffee or snacks. Has no friends or family to spend time/money on. Doesn't see doctors or a dentist.
I think it's quite possible he's saved up his own money. Seriously, try living to his standards for a month and you'll be surprised how much money is left before payday.

 

[Mankirk]

Something doesn't add up there. If he was broke and homeless last summer, there's no way he'd save up $5000 on a 14$/h sallary since then.

He was withholding rent because the apartment complex, by way of not properly locking up the parking lot, allowed his car to be WRONGFULLY repossessed. If he did claim to be too poor to pay, it was probably just to gain a perceived advantage in his legal dealings. I forget what wacky chain of events led to his car being up for repossession, but I would not be surprised to recall that it was similar willful obstinacy. He is spiteful and demanding in all facets of life, while always thinking his circumstances justify granting himself extraordinary leeway, at his own discretion.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

So I was reading about privileged communications and I came across a very interesting case in Florida.

In 1992, Florida Supreme Court declared that a statement made to the police prior to any criminal charges or an investigation being filed receives only qualified privilege, that is to say that if the statements were false and made with "the intent to injure the reputation of the plaintiff", they would not be protected under privilege. See Fridovich v. Fridovich, 598 So. 2d 65 - Fla: Supreme Court 1992.

Now, this is all well and good, but Florida only has 2 years Statute of Limitations, and begins counting from when a statement is made, not discovered. Well, when the person who made the statement isn't in Florida (Fla. Stat. § 95.051(1)(a) (2025)), the timer is stopped. Oh.

Well, what about Utah? Well, "[A]n individual reporting suspected criminal conduct to police authorities is entitled to qualified immunity for erroneous statements made to police officials. [...] Once a defendant raises this immunity, the burden shifts to the plaintiff to show that the defendant's report of conduct was the product of malice or ill will." Murphree v. US Bank Of Utah, 293 F.3d 1220, 1222 (10th Cir. 2002).

What of the statute of limitations? Well, unlike Florida, Utah fancies a "when discovered" rule for defamation claims. See, for example,
Russell v. Standard Corp., 898 P. 2d 263 - Utah: Supreme Court 1995

All I'm saying is that it looks like none of Russ' false statements to the police were legally protected. Whoopsie.

 

[Uncle Buck]

So I was reading about privileged communications and I came across a very interesting case in Florida.

In 1992, Florida Supreme Court declared that a statement made to the police prior to any criminal charges or an investigation being filed receives only qualified privilege, that is to say that if the statements were false and made with "the intent to injure the reputation of the plaintiff", they would not be protected under privilege. See Fridovich v. Fridovich, 598 So. 2d 65 - Fla: Supreme Court 1992.

Now, this is all well and good, but Florida only has 2 years Statute of Limitations, and begins counting from when a statement is made, not discovered. Well, when the person who made the statement isn't in Florida (Fla. Stat. § 95.051(1)(a) (2025)), the timer is stopped. Oh.

Well, what about Utah? Well, "[A]n individual reporting suspected criminal conduct to police authorities is entitled to qualified immunity for erroneous statements made to police officials. [...] Once a defendant raises this immunity, the burden shifts to the plaintiff to show that the defendant's report of conduct was the product of malice or ill will." Murphree v. US Bank Of Utah, 293 F.3d 1220, 1222 (10th Cir. 2002).

What of the statute of limitations? Well, unlike Florida, Utah fancies a "when discovered" rule for defamation claims. See, for example,
Russell v. Standard Corp., 898 P. 2d 263 - Utah: Supreme Court 1995

All I'm saying is that it looks like none of Russ' false statements to the police were legally protected. Whoopsie.

Counter-claim incoming?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Counter-claim incoming?

He'd have to initiate a new defamation lawsuit for this. I don't expect Null to do it until the current case is settled, though.

 

[The Stranger]

He'd have to initiate a new defamation lawsuit for this. I don't expect Null to do it until the current case is settled, though.

Well by the time the current case is settled the statute of limitations (even from date of discovery) will be long passed.

edit: To add, winning a defamation case against Greer might help settle the current case as well

 

[Your Starter for 10]

He'd have to initiate a new defamation lawsuit for this. I don't expect Null to do it until the current case is settled, though.

Pretty sure you missed the exception to this rule. Where if you can demonstrate that the statements were made against a website that uses the N-word and has "caused multiple an-herocides" the only laws that apply are whatever the judge feels like.

It's called the Kiwi Farms Exception or just the Null Clause.

 

[Silver Coin Anon]

All I'm saying is that it looks like none of Russ' false statements to the police were legally protected. Whoopsie.

Usually I'd laugh at the suggestion but imagine if Greer was sanctioned 5 more times and lost this case due to that... "The defendent, who tried to blackmail his victim, the plaintiff, with threats of frivolous criminal complaints into settling a fake copyright case initiated to unlawfully shutdown the victim's U.S. lasful business, did attempt to commit fraud upon the police (as he did to the court see Greer V.Moon final judgement) to have the plaintiff's life ruined. Every word was a lie, just as in Greer v.Taylor Swift, Arianna Grande, (20 more here)"

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

I see the producers are hinting at another season of Slobbermouth vs Slobbermutt.

I should be jaded but I'm not, may the ride never end.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I forget what wacky chain of events led to his car being up for repossession, but I would not be surprised to recall that it was similar willful obstinacy. He is spiteful and demanding in all facets of life, while always thinking his circumstances justify granting himself extraordinary leeway, at his own discretion.

It's covered here:

Cultcow Post in thread 'Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC'

Aug 28, 2024

Would be a right shame if someone requested those documents. I'll see what I can do.

After 56 days of effort (Nevada time), I managed to receive those documents. @Null I believe you have mentioned you wanted to see evidence of his eviction, if I am not mistaken.

Spoiler: Tenant's affidavit in opposition to Summary eviction regarding nonpayment of rent

Spoiler: Application to Proceed in Forma Pauperis

His monthly income is $1600, expenses $1999

Spoiler: Documents in support of "Summary Eviction Tenant Answer"

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[Harvey Danger]

Some here have speculated that it's money that his parents have put aside for him to help him get back on his feet. The $5,000 may exist, but it may not really be his money.

As soon as he thinks Hardin might ask for a financial review and start subpoenaing banks to examine his accounts, that $5k is going to conveniently disappear into a "sudden business expense". He'll even have a phone screenshot of 1/3 of a receipt.

 

[WelperHelper99]

What of the statute of limitations? Well, unlike Florida, Utah fancies a "when discovered" rule for defamation claims. See, for example,
Russell v. Standard Corp., 898 P. 2d 263 - Utah: Supreme Court 1995

All I'm saying is that it looks like none of Russ' false statements to the police were legally protected. Whoopsie.

Rusty did NOT think ahead when making that report. Kek. And to think its just been collecting dust for seven years. You fucked up buddy boy. Hope Josh sues.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Criminal charges against Russ would be boring as fuck as they'd give him a public defender, and even the worst lawyer imaginable would be better than the prose person.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Criminal charges against Russ would be boring as fuck as they'd give him a public defender, and even the worst lawyer imaginable would be better than the prose person.

Who said anything about criminal charges?

 

[thegunbuilderguy]

Who said anything about criminal charges?

maybe if

He was specifically threatening to have Hardin prosecuted criminally if he didn't do something illegal and "settle" against his client's wishes.

And on terms his client wouldn't even get to know.

This is felony shit.

But. . .nothing ever happens.

↑ this happens

 

[WelperHelper99]

Criminal charges against Russ would be boring as fuck as they'd give him a public defender, and even the worst lawyer imaginable would be better than the prose person.

Civil charges would be more than enough. Liquidating Russ's possessions and taking his savings would be a start to rectify the situation.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

All this talk of sanctions and lawsuits against Russ reminds me of this quote:

But you shouldn't feel too bad, because you should remember that this is the Russhole and that he's only ever in a hell of his own making.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Anyway thank you for reading my blog, please remember to tip your prostitute on your way out

Do I... do I give her just the tip?

 

[Sexy Potoo]

Pretty sure you missed the exception to this rule. Where if you can demonstrate that the statements were made against a website that uses the N-word and has "caused multiple an-herocides" the only laws that apply are whatever the judge feels like.

It's called the Kiwi Farms Exception or just the Null Clause.

You could say that the rule is rendered...

𝘕𝘶𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘷𝘰𝘪𝘥