Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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You niggers keep baiting me into thinking that Greer did something so egregious that NOW FOR SURE he will get drop kicked by the Court but my chuddy paranoia still tells me that nothing ever happens and you're just playing with my emotions.
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I’m always guilty of applying my human logic to the legal system but it seems to me if lawyers have an obligation to quickly communicate settlement offers to their clients then the judge has an obligation not to sit on this with his gavel up his ass and instead he should quickly rule the email is not attorney eyes only.
As much as I personally agree, both the district and magistrate judge have many other cases that are actually proceeding and where they consider the stakes to be higher. E.g., serious criminal trials. Either judge could very easily fix this all immediately if they had the will to do so. But they made a strategic choice early on—years ago—that this eternal pretrial litigation is not their most important case.

They're not really following the case like we are, but I understand the mechanics of what their chambers may look like on a daily basis. Hell, they probably expect rational people to settle these types of things at this point, but both litigants happen to be acting irrationally. They're not expecting Russell Greer to actually make it to trial. Can you imagine him doing jury selection and spending a day actually directing a trial? His emails and frivolous statements about criminal and non-copyright matters are not relevant to his claim. He can't talk about these things in this way at an actual trial in a judge's courtroom. His greatest embarrassment would be showing up to do an actual trial.
 
A "settlement offer" to someone who probably doesn't even settlement authority. Russhole was trying to get someone's lawyer to betray his client and give him what he wants, without the client being able to approve or disapprove of it. Just legit criminal behavior on the part of Russhole.
The tard shield I think strikes back here--can you really prove this fool had mens rea? He has demonstrated, continuously over the last 3 filings a comprehensive ignorance of the law, ethics, and even of the logical and well-explained rules of civil procedure, most especially those that have been repeatedly explained to him, literally on the record. Can you even say it was willful if it appears the man can write but cannot read, at all, ever? It's like the ethics of dealing with an LLM--did it 'know' what it was doing? And so what if it 'did' can we really hold nonhuman intelligences guilty for violating our laws?

Truly, because of this category problem, I think it may be impossible for Russ to be a criminal. He's just not legally a person, he's not intellectually capable of the legal standard of malice. Can he really form ill intent if he can't ever demonstrate competent understanding of the law, language, or human interaction? All of his actions are correct to his perspective, no matter what, and fault cannot be found by his mind. He's not capable of guilt or shame or regret.

I am serious. He's not intellectually capable of morality.

He can file. He is intellectually capable to fill out paperwork with the assistance of computers and many other people. He has yet to really correctly comply with simple instructions once in the suit though. The thing that truly makes him a citizen is missing. Is a mole or a severely, severely disabled chimpanzee really capable of malice? No, such a creature is cognizant of its sexual arousal and hunger and perhaps even the threats to those things. Here in this case that it expresses these 'cognitions' in language is more evidence of the separability of language from intelligence than it is evidence of intelligence.

I believe the defense should add a sort of cryptozooligist to their witness list to proffer real testimony that Russell Greer cannot possibly be a citizen of the United States of America, because he is a strange cryptid with inadequate documentation. I think an affirmative defense that Russell Greer is not a US citizen by virtue of being a literate hominid cryptid is appropriate. No court has jurisdiction over sasquatch-type creatures, and the court should mandate that Greer be set free to the fertile and hospitable wilderness of Nevada, whence he came from, as far as they know.
 
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If only it wasn't for the gosh dang Kiwi Farms, Russ would be married to Taylor Swift and own a hundred brothels... :sigh:
I mean, he allows this to happen, he hurts himself. The last fuckin' 10-15 years of his life have been consumed by being a retarded litigant. He does this because he has nothing better to do and nobody's sucked his dick properly yet.

Ladies, please fuck Russel Greer so he can stop being a faggot. Men who sling dick do not act this retarded, okay, the retardation is curbed significantly.
 
He didn't say beyond it might trigger something interesting if Greer actually filed a criminal complaint. But I'm pretty sure an Attorey's eyes only extortion attempt was way beyond what Sean was expecting.
Russhole basically said quit representing your client and make a personal deal with me to settle this case for my demands and unless you force your client to settle for my demands I'll put out a criminal complaint against him. That's called blackmail. That's called extortion. It's literally a crime.

"But me be stupid widdle retard" will say Russhole. "I didn't know this was a felony!" And this idiot bullshit will continue.
 
both litigants happen to be acting irrationally
Explain how is Josh acting irrationally? Do you think "censor any discussion of me and write software to prevent it from ever happening again" is an acceptable term for ending a vexatious lawsuit? He may as well shut down the site at that point because literally every person being discussed here will file vexatious lawsuits seeking the same outcome.
 
I've said before I'm pretty sure the Judge just opens the docket every several months, sees 20 new filings and says "Aw man, I don't wanna read all that shit!"
So he clicks on the one on top, scrolls to the bottom and reads "Summary: Plaintiff honestly did comply"
"Oh, okay, I guess he complied, all caught up."
Why wouldn't he want to read this shit? It's genuinely hilarious.
 
If he was threatening to have Hardin arrested it is way worse. And I'm not sure it could be considered curable.
He was specifically threatening to have Hardin prosecuted criminally if he didn't do something illegal and "settle" against his client's wishes.

And on terms his client wouldn't even get to know.

This is felony shit.

But. . .nothing ever happens.
 
Russhole basically said quit representing your client and make a personal deal with me to settle this case for my demands and unless you force your client to settle for my demands I'll put out a criminal complaint against him. That's called blackmail. That's called extortion. It's literally a crime.
Yeah but Plaintiff sincerely didn't know it was illegal. He's trying his best. Anyway, that was a long time ago and it's irrelevant to copyright infringement, it's weird you don't want to move on as Plaintiff has. You're cruising for a protective order, buddy boy.
 
Yeah but Plaintiff sincerely didn't know it was illegal. He's trying his best. Anyway, that was a long time ago and it's irrelevant to copyright infringement, it's weird you don't want to move on as Plaintiff has. You're cruising for a protective order, buddy boy.
"But I'm just a poor little retard!"

At this point, if you're just such a poor little retard you're not able to quit committing felonies on a daily basis, you need to be in a home. Or in a cell with padded walls. Just somewhere normal people don't have to deal with your insanity.
 
"But I'm just a poor little retard!"

At this point, if you're just such a poor little retard you're not able to quit committing felonies on a daily basis, you need to be in a home. Or in a cell with padded walls. Just somewhere normal people don't have to deal with your insanity.
Or perhaps set loose in the famously hospitable deserts of Nevada, to roam free as a cryptid, a sort of modern manimal?
 
Can you imagine him doing jury selection and spending a day actually directing a trial?
My God it would be worth it just to see a mistrail declared five or six times during jury selection alone!

I wonder if he'd work out that "what is your cell number and what are you doing tonight" is not a valid question for the female-presenting jurors?
 
Explain how is Josh acting irrationally? Do you think "censor any discussion of me and write software to prevent it from ever happening again" is an acceptable term for ending a vexatious lawsuit? He may as well shut down the site at that point because literally every person being discussed here will file vexatious lawsuits seeking the same outcome.
I don't mean it in a bad way. He refuses to settle in order to vindicate his rights. The courts just don't think that's rational when he could theoretically settle. It's economically irrational but not wrong.
 
I know it's going to be a good day when this thread accumulates an additional 15 pages overnight. Thanks for saving me from my usual breakfast doomscrolling, Russ.

Here we go...
This is the dumbest 'proof' thats been submitted to date. Who is it to? Could be his doordash driver or another random number based on this image. Where are the phone records? Who is it addressed to?
My guess is another instance of fraud by Greer.
Totally.

This alleged "evidence" is fake and gay. It could be a straight out fabrication, or it could be based on genuine harassment directed at Waylon orchestrated by Russhole.

It wouldn't be the first time Russ has manufactured an exhibit in one of his lolsuits. Anyone who has been following Rusty for longer than five minutes is already well aware of the infamous Dennis Hof letter.
This will absolutely work out in his favor and Hardin doesn't have cause now to contact the realtor (I assume it's WH) about it and confirm the authenticity of this exhibit.
You're assuming that Russhole didn't bleat to Waylon urging him not to talk to the big meanie poo-poo head Mr. Buddy Boy Stalker, Esq.
With many other major cows, the details of one or more of their orbiting weens are eventually discovered, that ween proves just as funny as the original lolcow, and gets a thread of his or her own. If Russhole truly has so many people constantly contacting him and harassing him, and messing with everyone known to have any connection to him, why have none of Russ's weens been unmasked yet?
Russhole's antics have been documented for almost a decade across multiple platforms, yet the only known weening was the Katy Perry hoax in 2018, as pointed out by @jerkstore. Since then, Russ has accumulated a significant cult following, yet there's been no real weening (that I'm aware of) as a result.

The most egregious thing Russtorians do is accidentally cross the streams between his main lolcow thread and this one.

As for the whole apparent extortion attempt by Russhole against the Defendants and/or their counsel documented in ECF #321, I can't see Null or Hardin pressing charges. It would be too much work and it's highly unlikely to get a result, not least of which because this is Russhole's first offense as an alleged extortionist.
 
Truly, because of this category problem, I think it may be impossible for Russ to be a criminal. He's just not legally a person, he's not intellectually capable of the legal standard of malice. Can he really form ill intent if he can't ever demonstrate competent understanding of the law, language, or human interaction? All of his actions are correct to his perspective, no matter what, and fault cannot be found by his mind. He's not capable of guilt or shame or regret.

I am serious. He's not intellectually capable of morality.
So basically a nigger.
 
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