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Why are you pretending to not get the point. It’s really smarmy
He does this thing where he rabidly wants a conflict with Iran and when people say that maybe another mideast intervention is not desirable, he pretends all he wanted was a tiny airstrike.

He's a living motte and bailey.
He also gets really mad when you point out he's a brown dual citizen with zero actual loyalty to the United States and only sees us as a golem.
 
He does this thing where he rabidly wants a conflict with Iran and when people say that maybe another mideast intervention is not desirable, he pretends all he wanted was a tiny airstrike.
how do you have no theory of mind lmao. I've never called for a general conflict with Iran and was very clear that it stops at an airstrike on nuclear facilities. You can't comprehend this and think that airstrikes = total conflict. Since you have no theory of mind, you map your preconceived notions on me.

zero actual loyalty to the United States
Like I pointed out, you claim to be a loyal American but have no problems with Iran openly declaring that America should be destroyed, murdering Americans, smuggling drugs into the US, and banking for the cartels. How are you a loyal American in any way if you support Iran doing these things?
 
"we're just sending some military advisors to Saigon, only a retard would think this would mean we're invading and going to war. You guys lack critical thinking, no one's calling for invasion, just some bombing runs over Hanoi and this will be over by 1962"
fuck this post is so good I need to reply to it twice

Linebacker 1 and 2 were MAXIMUM effort bombing runs over Hanoi using B-52s to carpet bomb city blocks, this is not an exaggeration

Anyway without getting into the whole if we could have won argument, look at this
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This is so poignant to me in light of the recent "Ukrainian" attack on russias heavy bomber fleet of TU-95s


Quick summary is Ukraine says they destroyed 40+ heavy bombers, reality seems closer to 10 if that and the clip I include as well as MANY people and other outlets are making alot of hay about the fact that russia has closed the factory's for those heavy bombers years ago and so such losses cant be replaced.

The last B-52 rolled off the assembly line in 1962
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We only have about 75 left
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Taking all our OWN numbers we lost over 20% of the main arm of our strategic bomber fleet to kill non military targets, those planes lost over Hanoi, shot by 5'2 malnourished conscript with a wire guided, soviet era missile, were never rebuilt.

IDK what my main point of all this is, I just wish when we did dumb shit like that it was to take Canada or something useful like what Russia is doing for itself in Ukraine, their loses are still in the context of a bigger gain.

quick side note to all tech kiwis in the thread, not sure where ill get another chance to ask this so ill do it here. In light of the use of fiber optic and one way drones in Ukraine vs Russian due to the 2+ years of active jamming now, how on earth do we think they got footage of the airplane attack "Back" to hq. 1 or 3 options.

1. Self contained camera and hard drive, Fly there, shoot video, fly back to base INTACT on one battery. Extremely unlikely bordering on impossible

2. Wireless communication with CnC node, somehow bypassing Russian jamming and beyond that sending comms through contested lines of control unless you have a CnC node behind enemy lines, but that would raise even more questions. Extremely unlikely bordering on impossible

3. Fiber optic cable from launch point to strike point, this is puzzling as their stated narrative says they placed these drones in crates that were placed behind Russian lines over a year ago, Fiber Optic drones were VERY new then and beyond THAT fiber optic drones dont work in a swarm, they are single strike units.

All this leads to me conclude the videos are almost certainly state created "deepfakes" or more accurately some form of their stated version of the strike DID happen but the video was a work of fiction to make a propaganda representation of what they would imagine/like it to look like.
 
He does this thing where he rabidly wants a conflict with Iran and when people say that maybe another mideast intervention is not desirable, he pretends all he wanted was a tiny airstrike.

He's a living motte and bailey.
He also gets really mad when you point out he's a brown dual citizen with zero actual loyalty to the United States and only sees us as a golem.
you’d think he’d be aware this type of flagrant pilpul just makes people not take him seriously at best and creates more antisemetic people at worst
 
Lied about WW2
Lied about Vietnam
Lied about Iraq
Lied about Afghanistan

"But we swear we're selling the truth about Iran! We super duper pinky swear we're telling the truth! Please send your sons and daughters to die Goyim!"

Any of you fucking retards who believe this shit should kill yourselves immediately so the world doesn't have to suffer the consequences of your low IQs and lack of critical thinking abilities.

If rope is too expensive for your broke asses throw yourselves off the troon bridge.

KYS
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You could argue that the seeds were sown with our idiotic support of France holding authority over Vietnam.
btw that was almost ALMOST all for a little company called Michelin

You know, this creepy dude?
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Vietnam was where they got almost all their rubber and still get large amounts today, this was such a well known "secret" that the Vietnamese set up their camps in the Michelin rubber plantations because the US had orders not to napalm strike those areas, and so we dident.
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Like I pointed out, you claim to be a loyal American but have no problems with Iran openly declaring that America should be destroyed, murdering Americans, smuggling drugs into the US, and banking for the cartels. How are you a loyal American in any way if you support Iran doing these things?
"If you don't actively oppose this it's the same as supporting it" is the exact nigger shit the "anti-racist" leftists do and nobody here is going to fall for it
 
Like I pointed out, you claim to be a loyal American but have no problems with Iran openly declaring that America should be destroyed, murdering Americans, smuggling drugs into the US, and banking for the cartels. How are you a loyal American in any way if you support Iran doing these things?
This is the jew bullshit people hate from you. Israel also murdered Americans, they also sex-trafficked American children. How are you a loyal American in any way if you don't support the extermination of Israel?
 
Don't know about you but if Iran ever had the bright idea to nuke the US then we'd be able to at least commit nuclear holocaust along with every other nation that has nukes. If hypothetically Iran develops nukes and decides to nuke say fucking DC, NY, CA, or even for shits and giggles NV then the US hypothetically could level Iran and every single Muslim country would be hating Iran more than any Palestinian or Jew. That's not even getting to the retaliation by the allies of Iran and other attacks by our allies to said allies of Iran. Iran with a nuke will probably be like the Norks except Muslim.
If Iran nuked the US they would be bringing the wrath of Allah God upon themselves, it would be biblical. A full salvo of Trident 2's from a single Ohio class submarine would turn Iran into the world's largest parking lot, and if it's Trump in office you know they're going to get hit with a lot more than that.
 
Israel also murdered Americans
Israel killed Americans during the USA Liberty attack, apologized for it, and paid reparations. Hezbollah blew up a barracks full of marines and the Iranians trained Iraqi militias on how to build/place IEDs to kill American soldiers. Are you able to tell the difference?

"If you don't actively oppose this it's the same as supporting it" is the exact nigger shit the "anti-racist" leftists do and nobody here is going to fall for it
What loyal American citizen doesn't actively oppose those things? Are Americans supposed to shrug when other Americans are murdered?

you’d think he’d be aware this type of flagrant pilpul just makes people not take him seriously at best and creates more antisemetic people at worst
Conan creates his own reality and maps my worldview on it, his idea of my world views are a caricature of what I believe. You got upset because I pointed out that Trump removed a major Iran hawk away from any national security position and now are sneeding about muh pilpul

He was a private citizen at the time and the actual Israeli government was warning bush that Iraq was going to be long and difficult. This is easily researchable
 
Israel killed Americans during the USA Liberty attack, apologized for it, and paid reparations. Hezbollah blew up a barracks full of marines and the Iranians trained Iraqi militias on how to build/place IEDs to kill American soldiers. Are you able to tell the difference?


What loyal American citizen doesn't actively oppose those things? Are Americans supposed to shrug when other Americans are murdered?


Conan creates his own reality and maps my worldview on it, his idea of my world views are a caricature of what I believe. You got upset because I pointed out that Trump removed a major Iran hawk away from any national security position and now are sneeding about muh pilpul


He was a private citizen at the time and the actual Israeli government was warning bush that Iraq was going to be long and difficult. This is easily researchable
If I show you a low interest loan do you burst into flames like a vampire?
 
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