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Since these particular riots are in response to a raid on cartel money laundering and human trafficking operations, and are funded (at least initially) by a cuban national who has been found guilty in the past of money laundering... I'm guessing the goal is to slow them down long enough for them to destroy evidence and get anyone important out of the region before ICE and the Fedboys can arrest them.
Hold on fellas... Wait a minute. I'm starting to feel like these gangs of drug smuggling, human trafficking, butchering, torturing, rapist murderers may be the bad guys...

Jokes aside, Mexico is a really fascinating and unique dumpster fire from a historical perspective. Since the inception of the nation state in the 1600s the general trends is that states exist in "neighborhoods" wherein most states share some similarities and a developmental course. The Eurasia area is quite well developed for the most part, as is North America. Whereas Africa is a pit and the Middle East is a basket case all round. But the Mexico-USA relationship is one of the rare examples of two neighbors going in complete opposite directions.
I have come to conclude that the prosperity of the USA feeds into the shittyness of Mexico. Obviously Mexico is going to be a hotspot for drug smuggling and human trafficking because the affluence of the USA creates around the clock demand for vices. As long as there is demand there is money, and as long as there is money the culture of corruption and looking the other way continues. (Now, this is not a once off phenomenon. You actually see this process occur quite a bit in other regions. In the European area peripheral places like Albania, Bulgaria, Kosovo and Morocco are all slowly becoming states run by organized crime. In Asia we see a similar thing in the Golden Triangle and the back jungles of Myanmar, which pretty much exist in perpetual anarchy and warlordism.)

But in my eyes what makes Mexico unique is the extent to which they exist basically as a parasite. During the 1990s the Mexican state ,under the leadership of Carlos Salinas de Gortari, gave up everything meaningful in Mexico preventing it from becoming a junkie that could only survive off the American Economy. This is called the Neoliberal era in Mexico. They gave up almost all of their state run industries, their currency controls, economic protectionism, labour protection and border security to be eligible for NAFTA. On the part of President Salinas this represents the ultimate Faustian bargain. "Give up on your current project of statehood. Remove your worker protections and open your border so that you will become an extension of the American economic zone. In exchange, we will send our manufacturing to you to take advantage of your low wages, and we will let the our new slaves send home remittances". Essentially, the neoliberal economic order is akin to a global patronage network.

But I suspect that the people who drafted the NAFTA plan for Mexico legitimately did not consider the inherent weakness and corruption of the Mexican state. The free trade agreement was supposed to give Mexican businesses unprecedented access to the American economy. Well it just so happens that the biggest "business" in Mexico is the cartel, and BOY did they benefit from this new access. I have to stress that the cartels are businesses in all but name. They have products (drugs), they sell services (smuggling comes to mind), they pay taxes (in the form of bribes), they engage in regulatory capture (by buying and threatening law enforcement, as well as paying politicians and the military to look the other way) and they even have unofficial relationships with the state (in the form of informal "if you don't touch our shit we will not touch yours" agreements). Nafta was supposed to Americanize Mexico but it mainly just Americanized the cartels, who are by now probably large enough to be listed on the NASDAQ. Thanks to NAFTA they were able to grow and consolidate. Now they are almost too big to fail.

On the other hand, cheap Mexican labour 'Mexicanized' the American economy in a bunch of unforeseen ways. In places like California it has been argued that without Mexican serf labour the agricultural sector would become dysfunctional. Construction is another industry where this occurs. Before the Mexican revolution this was how things got done there. A couple of elites and land owners owned practically everything and got fantastically rich exploiting cheap labour. After the Mexican revolution, these people were persuaded to relinquish all of these goodies in exchange for being invited into the political system under the PRI. But consider this carefully. If Mexican politicians are elites who are in politics for the money, it naturally makes sense that they would make alliances with whatever was most lucrative, in this case the cartels. Furthermore, pawning all their excess people onto America gives them the space to continue to do a crap job at governing, because anyone who can't find a job will sneak into America.

This in my analysis explains why both American and Mexican elites are so protective over this system. In the final analysis, the only people who well and truly benefit from this are the Mexican and American elites and the cartels. It will always be amazing to me how this neoliberal "integration" project poisoned BOTH Mexico and America, and brought the worst things about America to Mexico and the worst things about Mexico to America.
 
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I love that if you have any criticism of Daddy, or fuck, any questions or skepticism you get labeled as being a libby. Like motherfucker, you can bet I'm to the right of you.

We've gone from special pleading and false analogy with the invasion argument to bait and switch and straw man in these two comments. Cool. Can I totally pretty please support your e-daddy Donboi? It's not an unthinking propaganda movement with no political principals.
I don’t have any personal attachment to Trump, though god knows he might deserve it over the whole assassination attempts thing. Mainly he’s just the horse willing to pull my load after your mom quit last month.

So if you’re to the right of me, why do you want to let the lefty goons control what happens on the street in major cities?
 
I never said they would only do it if the right
did it first why are you writing fan fiction. I do think that doing that would be a guaranteed way to make sure the left does it.

That’s all I am saying
If the right organized mass terror attacks using melee weapons, shields, and firebombs, complete with Republican governors and members of Congress promoting the insurrection, a Democrat President would waste no time with LTL rounds. He would go immediately to live ammunition and orders to a hand-selected group of libs in the military to shoot on sight any one who doesn't disperse. This would then be followed up by years of RICO investigations. We would see prominent Republicans who were even loosely connected to the attacks sent to prison.

Any suggestion that the Democrats are showing even the tiniest bit of restraint because they're waiting for Republicans to give them precedent shows a stunning naivete about what they are. Really, it's the other way around. Republicans treat rioters and insurrectionists with kid gloves because Democrats do. The shocking way in which the Democrats violated J6ers' rights is why the Trump admin is comfortable going much harder on domestic terrorists now than in 2020.
 
Nor do I recall even one single instance of anyone on the left saying "hold on, let's be lenient, the shoe may be on the other foot." It's only right-wing people who ever show consideration for fairness. Leftoids care about grievance, and grievance alone
The only time they did was when some like Newsom spoke out against barring Trump from the ballot, but even then, it was because there was literally no legal standing whatsoever to do so; and they were confident they could beat Trump on Election Day.
 
I'll also say that when this is over the bush-era neocons and boomers who sold this country so red line can go up need to be executed as traitors with the rest.
Let's be fair here, it wasn't Bush that sold this country down the river, it was Reagan if we're talking uncontrolled migration, LBJ if we're talking about things in general but we can even make a case for FDR since he got us involved with the war. Bush was just another useful idiot.
 
I'll be very glad once this era of "Trump does extreme thing to generate headlines and spite his personal enemies (more people start watching news again, media profits skyrocket) --> response is divided between rational people calling him retarded and sycophants worshipping his every breath --> Trump does thing to escalate shitshow (media profits skyrocket) --> Trump gets bored and does other retarded authoritarian thing (media profits skyrocket)" is over.
“I want the funny to stop,” he said. Trash cans and top hats rained down on him.
 
I love that if you have any criticism of Daddy, or fuck, any questions or skepticism you get labeled as being a libby. Like motherfucker, you can bet I'm to the right of you.

We've gone from special pleading and false analogy with the invasion argument to bait and switch and straw man in these two comments. Cool. Can I totally pretty please support your e-daddy Donboi? It's not an unthinking propaganda movement with no political principals.
hello fellow conservatives. Fuck off boomercon.
 
You know the deep state is desperate when they need both Antifa and America First to join forces and desperately keep control of their third world slave caste.
 
Let's be fair here, it wasn't Bush that sold this country down the river, it was Reagan if we're talking uncontrolled migration, LBJ if we're talking about things in general but we can even make a case for FDR since he got us involved with the war. Bush was just another useful idiot.
What if we’re talking about trade policy with China? Like their admittance to the WTO?
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I don’t have any personal attachment to Trump, though god knows he might deserve it over the whole assassination attempts thing. Mainly he’s just the horse willing to pull my load after your mom quit last month.

So if you’re to the right of me, why do you want to let the lefty goons control what happens on the street in major cities?

You're not letting them; they already do. I said, you live in a multicultural empire. The ship undeniably sailed 25 fucking years ago.

Also, Donboi is a liberal. Not a little liberal either. That's why there's a good chance nothing is going to happen, the same as BLM rioting. This is a big show to enact further restrictions on the general population. This is also why conservatives, including Donboi, support "legal" immigration. But they need you polarized and hyped up to keep you divided, so they paint it the way it's being painted.

You're trading one group of Orwellian morons for another but they're both part of the same agenda. This is why, since 911, the same technocratic state has been moving forward, whether you have conservatives or libs at the helm (even the Current Thing Republican "Outsider"). There's a good chance they coordinate together to play left right off each other every cycles or few.
 
You're not letting them; they already do. I said, you live in a multicultural empire. The ship undeniably sailed 25 fucking years ago.

Also, Donboi is a liberal. Not a little liberal either. That's why there's a good chance nothing is going to happen, the same as BLM rioting. This is a big show to enact further restrictions on the general population. This is also why conservatives, including Donboi, support "legal" immigration. But they need you polarized and hyped up to keep you divided, so they paint it the way it's being painted.

You're trading one group of Orwellian morons for another but they're both part of the same agenda. This is why, since 911, the same technocratic state has been moving forward, whether you have conservatives or libs at the helm (even the Current Thing Republican "Outsider). There's a good chance they coordinate together to play left right off each other every cycle or few.
This is chink tier bullshittery

“I’m further right than you”
“It’s too late to do anything, forget about the riots that cost people shit tons in property damage in a state that has a very tenuous relationship with insurance”
“Bro black myth wukong is awesome and America sucks”
 
You're not letting them; they already do. I said, you live in a multicultural empire. The ship undeniably sailed 25 fucking years ago.

Also, Donboi is a liberal. Not a little liberal either. That's why there's a good chance nothing is going to happen, the same as BLM rioting. This is a big show to enact further restrictions on the general population. This is also why conservatives, including Donboi, support "legal" immigration. But they need you polarized and hyped up to keep you divided, so they paint it the way it's being painted.

You're trading one group of Orwellian morons for another but they're both part of the same agenda. This is why, since 911, the same technocratic state has been moving forward, whether you have conservatives or libs at the helm (even the Current Thing Republican "Outsider"). There's a good chance they coordinate together to play left right off each other every cycles or few.
Oh keep seething how you need your slaves. It’s too late to do anything is shitlib despair propaganda. Kill yourself antiWhite
 
Please express your mental illness in a way that doesn't send me a notification in the future.
Not my fault your side suddenly decided that mass immigration from third world countries owns the Jews

Do you just wait in this thread for any mention of kikes so you can jump in and run damage control
I was going to post it anyway, just found a relevant comment. Interesting that you don't disagree with them though
 
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