KiwiTubers / Lolcow YouTubers / A-Log Channels / Kiwi Slop - When you allow a bunch of morally righteous faggots in Discord servers dictate the ethics of being a fat retard on the Internet

Kiwi and Smokey were also guilty of this when they distanced themselves from Underflow and derided him for supposedly being a pedophile for not restricting his Discord server to 18+
well and also smokey was straight up messaging nova's artist, tx2 in order to get them to publicly denounce nova for content. it's fucking gay when you have to force milk like this but then get upset when people call you out for it
 
As someone whose main cow is Cobra, I can further comment on the “big three” Cobratubers.

SeizureRobot is by far the most respected in the Cobra community. He makes high quality videos, has a great podcast, does fun livestreams, and is a very talented animator. He’s also a very approachable and friendly guy in Cobes’ thread. Additionally, he gained some attention with the DSP crowd recently with a DSP animation he did.

Bitesize makes great documentaries, but he’s also a bit of an a-log. From what I’ve heard he was a mod for the Cobra subreddit for a time, which before it got banned was a hugbox for a-logs (Cobes has some of the worst a-logs of any cow).

Boglim Chronicles is a divisive figure in the Cobra community, for the reasons people and the OP have mentioned already, not to mention he’s also an a-log who also likes to stir the pot and create drama on occasion.

And it cannot be overstated how much of a masterpiece the trappped documentary is. Highly recommend even if you’re not a fan of Cobes.
My nigger magic mush is a saint compared to most of these guys
Magic Mush is great. Also Cecil McFly and Audentum haven’t been brought up yet, they’re great too. I’ve also got into MikeyNohMore’s stuff recently.
You forgot to add Kurasi to the Newgen/Moralfags, and honestly I'd argue that he's the worst one. Nigger makes a couple decent Documentaries, on Daniel Larson of all cows, and I guess decides that he wants to take advantage of the clout he attained? Regardless, he basically just starts politisperging everywhere, in livestreams and on twitter, constantly responds to people fucking with him in YT community posts, brags about being a literal faggot and how while all of us are here being hateful he's out doing his faggotry I guess?

If he were more active he probably would have gotten a thread of his own tbh.

@Osama Bin Laden I think we spoke about him before on the previous thread, but you should add Kurasi and his massive faggotry when you get a chance.
I remember in his Tobuscus video when he brought up Kyle Rittenhouse he said something along the lines of, “who was literally a killer…” Yeah you can tell where he leans politically.
Edit: is Cryptic Web Chronicles a kiwituber? I personally don't think he is, but I'm curious what others think.
I would consider him one, considering his main schtick is that he talks about Patrick Tomlinson.
You gotta donate to gain that
Interesting because I got my True And Honest Fan status recently after having my first proper thread moved out of PG. I didn’t donate at all.


EDIT: also surprised GiBi hasn’t been brought up yet. He got a lot of shit when he fucked up the Isabella Janke shit.
 
MrYolodikswagger is a very dedicated gayopper, having gone after XBottle01 (an old Wings clipper) for being "too positive" on Wings, and currently going after Wings007.

Made a YouTube account using the name and photo of Wings007's son, and used the account to reupload an old video of Wings007's car crash, while throwing in the baseless claim that his son was in the car and the accident was from street racing.
Great thread start OP. Wanted to chime in and give some context for this.

Wings007 and Xbottle01 were already infamous within the Wings Of Redemption alog sector, being some of the first major shit touchers to jump on around 2021. 007 [Jonathan Wilkins] was the most disliked for his sketchy behavior and endless Discord schemes, earning him a bad reputation by the end of the year.

To keep it short and sweet;
the difference between him and CWW is a conflict of interest and how both choose to alog Wings. The first group is fairly simple to understand but very cultist-like, having rules and codes about giving Wings any money [ironically or not] and how much sympathy if any is allowed. By law you have to hate Jordie Jordan and believe he is the second coming of a pedophilic Hitler Anti-Christ and if you don't you will be hunted by Discord assassins.

While
007 prefers more shunned methods such as sunshining and swatting, believing that neghole pozzing is a way of life and that the action brings the content:

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Another reason why the two groups have been at war for so long now comes from an incident where Wings007 tried to brute force his way around into some higher positions in the CWW chain of gaymand. However he would end up rejected and exiled from what would be the wider community. This is around the time him and Xbottle01 got together in what was supposed to be a super secret war room call; there they would openly muse and discuss some ideas about phonebooking members of the CWW and swatting specific targets.

Wanted to bring it up since it read like he was a random target but also shine light on how even different groups of alogs are prone to alogging one another.
 
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no, i use AI to help with grammar because i am shit with english, but only the conclusion. it's not that i don't like to write, i do. I was tired and wanted to finish it. I can always rewrite it, I just felt the conclusion was a good summarization of my thoughts other than it sounding like a faggot.

in my personal opinion, i don't find it that big of a deal since i can always rewrite it

edit: it's rewritten, no more AI
Thank you for clarifying. This is an interesting topic for a thread because from reading what many are already saying in these comments, people have different reasons for liking or disliking these KF slop YouTubers.

I’m of a similar mind to the people who don’t really care about people using things from the site, my dumb memes & graphics get lifted constantly & I enjoy seeing how far they spread. I like seeing them put to personal use, for profit would not be as enjoyable. I also really like to see Kiwi Farms get credited, I don’t think it’s cool for the site to not get a shout out if things are sourced from here, word for word or close enough. Since it’s close to an anonymous site, I think crediting the site alone is just fine. If some YouTube grifter is lifting word for word, maybe a shout out to an individual user is cool, because plagiarism is always gay. Crediting is important. As important as not being a reddit personal army fag.
 
An issue with KiwiTubers, such as Turkey Tom or clip channels, often face criticism for stealing content from forums like Kiwi Farms without giving credit, using the material to profit while exacerbating the harm of lolcow culture through “touching the glass.” By stealing detailed posts, screenshots, or timelines from Kiwi Farms, where users meticulously document lolcow behavior. These creators repackage the information into videos or streams without acknowledging the source, exploiting the forum’s labor for monetized content. This practice not only deprives Kiwi Farms contributors of recognition but also fuels the lolcow harassment cycle by amplifying provocative material, leading to direct engagement (“touching the glass”) with lolcows through comments or provocations to generate more reactions for profit.
What you call "touching the glass" is a major issue I've experienced with the audience of lolcow YouTubers. I get that they can't really control their audiences and in theory I have nothing against people talking about a cow, but attracting weens is a legitimate problem.

A few years ago I made a thread on a minor cow who was a legitimate (diagnosed) schizophrenic. After Deadwing made a stream on his thread, a bunch of weens came out of the woodwork and really started fucking with the guy, with one ween sending him emails pretending to be an underage girl interested in dating him. This ended with him being sent to a mental hospital, and expressing suicidal thoughts when he got out.
 
Great thread as always, Osama.

My controversial spicy hot advertiser-unfriendly take is that people really should not care about youtubers "stealing" content from this place, because ultimately no amount of complaining is going to make them change their ways. They are leeches through and through and will never care about proper attribution. Niggermarking is funny af though.

I don't care if people make videos and shit, it's whatever, drop in the bucket at this point, but the generation of tiktok-ified cows ala Daniel Larson or WorldOfTShirts has introduced this weird need to just fucking annotate a video or clip and then play it. Why even play it if you just explain "Alright guys, TophiaChu gets big mad! She stuffs her fat piggy face, cries about the TROLLS and ONLINE HARASSERS, calls them BROKE AND JOBLESS, and then cries!" and then play a 5 minute clip of that? Like, nigga that's not interesting, and somehow these niggers take weeks to get to something so they'll paint what is, by the time it's uploaded, weeks-months old info as "new" or worth covering in that capacity. And then, these faggots will not only try to tell you right from wrong, they'll violate their own ethics on such rights/wrongs and shit touch until it eventually bites them.

This is my viewpoint. I don't care about "stealing" content. It's information. I mean it's mega gay when they read directly from the thread without attribution, and that's actual plagiarism, but just using facts isn't. When they're simultaneously monetizing it and fucking up the content, though, it's niggermarking time. (Or whatevermarking if you're not into that.)

I am also not particularly passionate about kiwitubers using information from this site without attribution. Imagine what this place would turn into if they cited it as a source. We'd be flooded by their idiotic followers who couldn't be bothered to lurk for a while, shitting up the threads with their Reddit-tier opinions. Better to keep that nonsense where it belongs.

As for the act of kiwitubing itself, I'd be a hypocrite if I were to condemn them all because I've been known to check in on some of them from time to time. The ones who condense down a cow's stream to highlight the few funny moments can be pretty helpful because hell if I'm going to sit through an hour+ of Chris Chan coloring on the off chance he says something funny or shits himself on stream.

I don't even particularly care that the kiwitubers are making money off of what they do (as long as they simply report and maybe add some commentary -- never get involved with the cow; never be part of the story). They're not taking any money out of my wallet, so why should I care? You'll never catch me sending these fools superchats or whatever, but I'm ok with them earning some ad bucks from their videos. Putting themselves out there is a bit more risky than just posting on a message board (even if they attempt to hide their identities -- look at how many have been ID'd in this thread alone), so the Adsense is a reward for that risk.

What irks me about them is the undeserved sense of self-importance that some of them have. They're not doing hard-hitting journalism as some of them believe; they're not even "exposing predators" Dateline-style. They're just laughing at retards online -- it's not that deep.

And, of course, getting involved directly with the cows (either for the purpose of generating lols or to "punish" a cow's misdeeds) is reprehensible. It just shouldn't be done -- it doesn't matter what the circumstances are.
Zoomers in particular seem to have some warped view of consequences and feel the need to take matters into their own hands. That leads these kiwitubers to make "callout" videos taking the cows to task for their actions -- or worse, leading campaigns to make life difficult for them. If I had to guess, these zoomers may have gotten this view due to the negative perception of law enforcement by major media as well as the rise of "cancel culture" in recent years -- and maybe even the fact that they themselves were so coddled that the worst punishment they ever received was a stern talking-to. Whatever the cause, it's irritating watching them act like some kind of moral crusader when they're really doing nothing at all.

I don't have a good way to wrap this up, so I'll just summarize: Some kiwitubers are ok; most take things way too far.
I'll take my autistic puzzle piece stickers now.
 
What you call "touching the glass" is a major issue I've experienced with the audience of lolcow YouTubers. I get that they can't really control their audiences and in theory I have nothing against people talking about a cow, but attracting weens is a legitimate problem.
i have an issue with creators knowing their fans touch the glass and do nothing to prevent it or encourage it sometimes
 
Methinks there could be some organization for the different types of lolcow tubers, like separating them into sections and giving headers, rather than ordering chronologically.
Here's what I'm kindof imagining:

# Newgen/Moralfags
- Smokey
- Kiwi Tapes
- Nick Nobody
- Bludspeth
- Major Chilla
- Leaping Lemur

# "Documentarians"
- trappped
- Genosamuel

# Clippers
- Bitesize Cobra Vids
- Boglim Chronicles

# Gayoppers
- Linda Binda
- mryolodikswagger

# Absolute Slop
- Rogue
- Turkey Tom

Reasonable off topic: anyone else thought Chilla/Lemur were the same motherfucker?

I think seizure robot 5000 is on geno and trapped tier. I know it's a podcast buuuuuuuut the retro aesthetic and creativity (themed call ins, game shows) absolutely puts him up there. That and he's on top of his lore.
 
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