The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Ferryman]

I still think it overall is a bad move. You can say, it's keeping the retard trannies out. But in the end if good developers aren't willing to contribute. It's going to be an overall detriment to the project. When he could have just started it. Took code from people. And if they end up being retard trannies that fuck things up, ban them from contributing.
Now it gives ammo to Red Hat/IBM and it's tranny dick sucking contributors. To give anyone shit for contributing. For distros officially adopting it. And people talking about retarded identity politics instead of things that actually matter.

Not saying it's going to kill the project alone. But it's an obviously bad move to start something that would need wide adoption across linux to make a real difference, that is already going up against IBM with that attached to it from the beginning.

I'm inclined to agree, to an extent. I think it was purposefully done to incite groups like the Artix Linux people into taking his side, which to his credit, definitely worked. It's a double edged sword. On one hand it gives him a ' he can get active, dedicated support, while on the other it might alienate people who would otherwise be supportive if not for his whole anti-DEI spiel. I certainly support it. Fuck Red Hat and fuck IBM, compromise is the first nail in the coffin, so the more unabashed and loud people are against them, the better. Plus, I think the project will see slow burn support from even people like Devuan, FreeBSD and Antix (once they get properly buck broken) since X11 is effectively dead in the water.

 

[volatile puar]

Thought I would share MattKC's solution to multi-monitor headache's here: just use an ultra-wide monitor as if it was 3 monitors.

 

[Hieronymus Lex]

All the quotes I would do from here are a page back. But on the DEI stuff in the readme.

I still think it overall is a bad move. You can say, it's keeping the retard trannies out. But in the end if good developers aren't willing to contribute. It's going to be an overall detriment to the project. When he could have just started it. Took code from people. And if they end up being retard trannies that fuck things up, ban them from contributing.
Now it gives ammo to Red Hat/IBM and it's tranny dick sucking contributors. To give anyone shit for contributing. For distros officially adopting it. And people talking about retarded identity politics instead of things that actually matter.

As if they don't ostracize and alienate people with their "Code of Conducts". Ironically, that anti-DEI thing in the README is sort of a Code of Conduct itself, though clearly different in nature compared to the tranny-written """Contributor Covenant""" which serves only to purge whoever they see as "Nazis" and "facists".

I'm inclined to agree, to an extent. I think it was purposefully done to incite groups like the Artix Linux people into taking his side, which to his credit, definitely worked. It's a double edged sword. On one hand it gives him a ' he can get active, dedicated support, while on the other it might alienate people who would otherwise be supportive if not for his whole anti-DEI spiel. I certainly support it.

Personally I'm alienated by projects which adopt Code of Conducts like the """Contributor Covenant""" but that might just be me.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Recently got a new all AMD build and holy shit is the linux experience is leaps and bounds better. Anyone that says that using an nvidia card is fine does not know what they're talking about. Using Kubuntu with wayland and everything is fine.

 

[i440BX]

Recently got a new all AMD build and holy shit is the linux experience is leaps and bounds better. Anyone that says that using an nvidia card is fine does not know what they're talking about. Using Kubuntu with wayland and everything is fine.

Nvidia is needed if you work with CUDA applications like PyTorch. I wish AMD was able to have a CUDA equivalent.

 

[Slav Power]

I wish AMD was able to have a CUDA equivalent.

ROCm will be viable on the same day Wayland becomes viable.

 

[Hellwalker]

Recently got a new all AMD build and holy shit is the linux experience is leaps and bounds better. Anyone that says that using an nvidia card is fine does not know what they're talking about. Using Kubuntu with wayland and everything is fine.

What did you notice that's better? I ran Wayland on KDE with a Nvidia GPU and nothing was horrific for me.

 

[Retard Marine]

If it's not Enrico who succeeds, someone will step up and keep Xorg from completely shriveling up and dying.

Maybe uncle Theo will save us all:

The thing is he isn't alone in this fork

If he doesn't have too much of an ego he might always even step down as the leader/maintainer of XLibre if someone better comes along.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

What did you notice that's better? I ran Wayland on KDE with a Nvidia GPU and nothing was horrific for me.

The past 2 times I tried Linux (Mint and Kubuntu mainly) I could not get youtube videos to run properly on either Brave or Librewolf and I had issues with some games in my steam library. Beyond that the whole experience felt poor. Movie windows would be stuttery and choppy. Issues at boot and scaling looking like dogshit (Vision issues so i have to bump it up)

Now, windows are snappy and fluid and the few games I have tried play fine. I'm more comfortable moving over in October.

 

[i440BX]

What did you notice that's better? I ran Wayland on KDE with a Nvidia GPU and nothing was horrific for me.

Did you try running Nvidia-Prime on a optimus laptop?
Indeed Wayland works on a Nvidia card in a desktop, but Wayland removed some features I find good. For example screensavers if I want to use CRTs or OLED.

To be fair, I don't hate Hyperland, I am ok with other people using it, but don't force me to switch to it.

 

[Vesperus]

But in the end if good developers aren't willing to contribute

That's true, but are you sure that's what going to happen? People are waking up to the idea that troons aren't terribly sane, and that if you get put on blast for saying "Nigger" you can collect a fat wedge of cash. You can say "No" to this horseshit.
I think most contributors don't care one way or the other: They just want to code to make things a bit better, and if they can do that without wasting time on some purity test, swearing fealty to black trans lesbians from Palestine, then that's more time peering at the code.
If Canonical want to fuck around re-writing the kernel in rust so it it displays the pride flag on every boot then let them. Everyone else can get on with useful stuff.

 

[Hellwalker]

The past 2 times I tried Linux (Mint and Kubuntu mainly) I could not get youtube videos to run properly on either Brave or Librewolf and I had issues with some games in my steam library. Beyond that the whole experience felt poor. Movie windows would be stuttery and choppy. Issues at boot and scaling looking like dogshit (Vision issues so i have to bump it up)

Now, windows are snappy and fluid and the few games I have tried play fine. I'm more comfortable moving over in October.

It's so weird seeing people have issues with Nvida while I'm here just fine, not experiencing anything wrong.

Did you try running Nvidia-Prime on a optimus laptop?
Indeed Wayland works on a Nvidia card in a desktop, but Wayland removed some features I find good. For example screensavers if I want to use CRTs or OLED.

To be fair, I don't hate Hyperland, I am ok with other people using it, but don't force me to switch to it.

My first experience with Wayland was accidently using it on a new KDE Plasma installation. Before, I would use Xorg only, not because of philosophical reasons, but because I thought Wayland was some esoteric technology that required specific knowledge about Linux or whatever (I was/still am a Linux noob. No bully, plz).

Wayland actually solved a lot stuttering I was experiencing with Linux, which was a big issue for me on Linux. Everything felt so smooth and responsive compared to Xorg.

I tried Xorg on Plasma again to see if the stuttering/responsiveness issues I was experiencing was just me making shit up, but it wasn't. It was all still there, just like how I remembered it. I don't know if issues on Xorg that get fixed with Wayland is an Nvida exclusive but, even if it is, I'm still gonna use it because it's the best for me and I don't care about philosphical reasons.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

I'm inclined to agree, to an extent. I think it was purposefully done to incite groups like the Artix Linux people into taking his side, which to his credit, definitely worked. It's a double edged sword. On one hand it gives him a ' he can get active, dedicated support, while on the other it might alienate people who would otherwise be supportive if not for his whole anti-DEI spiel. I certainly support it. Fuck Red Hat and fuck IBM, compromise is the first nail in the coffin, so the more unabashed and loud people are against them, the better. Plus, I think the project will see slow burn support from even people like Devuan, FreeBSD and Antix (once they get properly buck broken) since X11 is effectively dead in the water.

My criticism of it. Is they could have done that. Without explicitly stating it. And having artix on their side is good. But if they didn't add that extra bit of a reason to have other projects shun them. They could have potentially had a lot more support from the start. Artix overall isn't huge project. I think just having the anti-redhat stuff would have been enough to give people a general idea of where the project stands. While not being as bad if an optics move.

I was saying a few posts up. It's not just people that have a problem with the no dei thing that will be pushed away. It's people that are worried about the optics of helping a project that makes that something they care about enough to put in their readme.

As if they don't ostracize and alienate people with their "Code of Conducts". Ironically, that anti-DEI thing in the README is sort of a Code of Conduct itself, though clearly different in nature compared to the tranny-written """Contributor Covenant""" which serves only to purge whoever they see as "Nazis" and "facists".


Personally I'm alienated by projects which adopt Code of Conducts like the """Contributor Covenant""" but that might just be me.

I don't care about people feeling alienated. Or peoples feelings in general in this situation. It's about the way that will be weaponized to hurt the projects chances of being adopted.

And I absolutely do expect it. I've seen these people come out of nowhere with shit to try and kill projects the deem against their ideals.

Just because I like that a project says no retarded politics, or dei shit. Doesn't mean it's a good move, and in general it's a really dumb thing to do. If you just want a project to succeed on its merits. Because ironically it immediately brings politics into it.

 

[i440BX]

It's so weird seeing people have issues with Nvida while I'm here just fine, not experiencing anything wrong.

My first experience with Wayland was accidently using it on a new KDE Plasma installation. Before, I would use Xorg only, not because of philosophical reasons, but because I thought Wayland was some esoteric technology that required specific knowledge about Linux or whatever (I was/still am a Linux noob. No bully, plz).

Wayland actually solved a lot stuttering I was experiencing with Linux, which was a big issue for me on Linux. Everything felt so smooth and responsive compared to Xorg.

I tried Xorg on Plasma again to see if the stuttering/responsiveness issues I was experiencing was just me making shit up, but it wasn't. It was all still there, just like how I remembered it. I don't know if issues on Xorg that get fixed with Wayland is an Nvida exclusive but, even if it is, I'm still gonna use it because it's the best for me and I don't care about philosphical reasons.

That's fair. But Nvidia optimus is notoriously incompatible with Wayland. Nvidia-Prime, the official recommended solution, has issues on wayland and not x11.

People hate Wayland because of the smug and condescending freedesktop\RedHat\Gnome politburo that forces security over freedom of choice. Also it promotes fragmentation. If someone wants to create a new DE, they need to implement all these shitty Wayland protocols by themselves. I know there exists wlroots, but thats a piece of shit.

 

[Hellwalker]

That's fair. But Nvidia optimus is notoriously incompatible with Wayland. Nvidia-Prime, the official recommended solution, has issues on wayland and not x11.

Is that for laptops? I've never owned a laptop (Well, only a shit, extremely underpowered one) so I don't have any knowledge or experience with it.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

think most contributors don't care one way or the other

I do to. I also think most contributors don't want to deal with raging trannies, and tranny dick suckers trying to ruin their life for wrong thing. And companies like redhat backing them up

 

[i440BX]

Is that for laptops? I've never owned a laptop (Well, only a shit, extremely underpowered one) so I don't have any knowledge or experience with it.

Yes. My daily driver and the fastest computer I own is a laptop.

 

[Rust Troony]

ROCm will be viable on the same day Wayland becomes viable.

Rocm is in the same position amds... everything is. I've used it for just about everything you use Cuda for, at least for normal users without specialized software. (Blender mostly nowadays, but I did test out AI image and text.)

It's like everything AMD makes, good enough to use, slower than Nvidia. Hopefully it gets better in the future. HipRT finally almost made my gpu usable for complex blender renders, but it has its bugs sometimes.

 

[Vesperus]

And I absolutely do expect it. I've seen these people come out of nowhere with shit to try and kill projects the deem against their ideals.

That's why telling them to piss off on day one is a good idea. We both know that, if a project doesn't die in the first month, these fuckers will pop up like like mushrooms to try and subvert it. This way people can tap the "no DEI" sign and get back to work.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

That's why telling them to piss off on day one is a good idea. We both know that, if a project doesn't die in the first month, these fuckers will pop up like like mushrooms to try and subvert it. This way people can tap the "no DEI" sign and get back to work.

Let's say he didn't. Trannies and progressives contribute. And the do try that. Why wouldn't he just be able to cut it off then? Kick contributors that insist on bringing politics to the project.

I probably need to look into the gnu stuff again. But from what I recall they did try to subvert gnu. Gnu only cares about free software not about retarded gay nigga politics. So they ended up turning on gnu down the line. But gnu still isn't know explicitly as non-dei. (This is just from memory, and there is a lot more to it. But that's basically what I remember the being the gist of it)