2025 Israel vs Iran War

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1948 - training from Britain, guns, planes, ammo and training from the Czechs
1956 - absolutely a joint operation. Spearheaded by France, provided weapons, ammo, training and planes by France, air cover from France, British and French forces bombed Egyptian air fields and invaded the canal
1967 - using decades of foreign, mostly French, weapons, planes, etc etc
He was talking about US money you ignorant nigger. Learn to read


1982 - "at best ancillary" bull fucking shit.
By this point Israel has received tens of billions of dollars in aid (in grants, not "loans") from the US, acquiring F-15s, tanks, armored carriers, missiles, cluster bombs and shitloads of guns and ammo in the process. They also received US intelligence on Syrians and the PLO. All of this was actually ESSENTIAL to waging and sustaining that war
Reagan literally called Begin and ordered him to ease back on the bombings or else he would cut off all aid
 
Zero reading comprehension. The Beirut Barracks bombings refer to the last instance where Hezbollah attacked American (not civilian) target. The second sentence of the post specifically refers to the instances where Hezbollah attacked Israeli civilians.
Kike, your jew friend just doubled down calling it a terrorist attack when it obviously wasn't. Maybe my reading comprehension is just fine?

A terror attack doesn't need to be against civilians to still be considered a terror attack. Are you going to tell me Benghazi wasn't a terror attack because it killed a US diplomat and several marines? Second, the marines were acting as peacekeepers rather than being involved in a military operation, or are you just simping for Hezbollah at this point?
A Barracks housing soldiers that are "peacekeeping" while supplying the invading jews with armaments are a valid military target, indisputably. Was anything like that going on in benghazi?
 
Scott Ritter. :story:

Scott Scott Scott... how'd it happen twice??
Think it was two attempts to groom and meet young girls. 2000 and 2011. delmarm4fun (his online handle) loves Putin, the Ayyatollah and all turd worlders and browns. It might be blackmail but I get the impression he really loves the turd world as they usually don't have stout laws against noncery as it US does and the enforcement and reporting tools catching retards who get caught by a police woman posing as a minor (offence 2).
 
1948 - training from Britain, guns, planes, ammo and training from the Czechs
They shot down British Spitfires flying for the Egyptians and one of the main military commanders on opposing side was a British officer. Are you retarded?
1956 - absolutely a joint operation. Spearheaded by France, provided weapons, ammo, training and planes by France, air cover from France, British and French forces bombed Egyptian air fields and invaded the canal
The response was to a point that the only time Israel has won wars is because of US support. Even without French and British assistance, the Israelis would've crushed the Egyptian army.
1967 - using decades of foreign, mostly French, weapons, planes, etc etc
Buying weapons from a country is not the same as getting mass subsidies from that country, and the only side receiving mass shipments of subsidized weapons were the Arab armies. The French also imposed an arms embargo against Israel as a result of the war.
1982 - "at best ancillary" bull fucking shit.
By this point Israel has received tens of billions of dollars in aid (in grants, not "loans") from the US, acquiring F-15s, tanks, armored carriers, missiles, cluster bombs and shitloads of guns and ammo in the process. They also received US intelligence on Syrians and the PLO. All of this was actually ESSENTIAL to waging and sustaining that war.
What were our interests in Lebanon, because we weren't going after the PLO or trying to contain Syria? Providing military assistance to the Israelis and sharing intelligence when it suited our interests is not the same as having a complete overlap in interests, especially when our stated goal was to prevent the further destabilization of the country by pro-Soviet forces.
Why are you all always so ungrateful? Try saying thank you.
I'm not Israeli, so I don't know why you're being such a prissy little bitch about this.
 
Reagan literally called Begin and ordered him to ease back on the bombings or else he would cut off all aid
Wow thanks, way to prove my point. If US support was so ancillary, what would it matter if Reagan threatened to cut off aid when Israelis started chimping out like genocidal lunatics they are?

That's not ancillary you retarded faggot, that's called LEVERAGE. The US stepped in to stop it because they were the only country that could compel Israel to stop.

Without the US funding and weapons, the war couldn't have been started. Without US diplomacy, it couldn't have been ended. Ancillary my fucking ass.
 
Wow thanks, way to prove my point. If US support was so ancillary, what would it matter if Reagan threatened to cut off aid when Israelis started chimping out like genocidal lunatics they are?
Don't see you commenting about 48/67 anymore. Why is that?

2 impacts in Judea and Samaria, open areas. Only 5 missiles this time
 
Sure, but they are far more accurately a state regional intelligence and military apparatus.
Just to be consistent, if Hezbollah are a terrorist organization, then Mossad absolutely are as well, along with tonnes of Intelligence Agencies like the CIA, MI6 etc.
I don't like the idea of claiming that States apparatus themselves are "Terrorist organizations" because it opens a pandora's box of states just accusing eachother of being terrorists, for pretty frankly, standard espionage. I think Terrorist orgs genuinely have to be largely clandestine sleeper cell loan shark groups, acting for the purpose entirely to conduct terror. Hezbollah just doesn't match that, it's a uniformed army and intelligence agency functionally, of elements of Lebanese state and supported by Iran.
Also personally, I just do not understand, why Westerners, would ever give a single iota of a fuck about Hezbollah or Hamas, when Hezbollah has been fighting against the Islamist Wahabbi nutcases that keep driving through Christmas Markets in Europe. Without Hezbollah kicking them in the nuts, ISIS would have 100% won the Syria blood bowl and the West would be seeing a Terror wave unlike any it's ever experienced. Hezbollah and Lebanon, hell even Hamas and Iran, are pretty "moderate" by Middle Eastern standards. The Gulf States are basically Islamist Wahhabi psycho North Korea tier outside of their potemkin cities. Saudi Arabia can just slam Airliners into American Skyscrapers and Iraq and Iran get the blame for "Islamic terror".
They're a pseudostate at best, and their actions are aimed at causing intimidation of civilian populations in furtherance of a stated goal of destroying the State of Israel and wiping out all Jews. Mossad's tactics are aimed at neutralizing enemies of Israel, be it individuals, organizations, or governments, by any means necessary. They so far haven't directly targeted populations at large or embassies. I don't approve of every action Mossad has taken, but one of these groups is undeniably way more imprecise with its attacks than another, and it's not Mossad.
 
Preparations are underway to join the Israeli campaign against Iran if Trump gives the green light. CENTCOM supports joining while senior administration officials oppose it, a US official tells i24News


You aren't helping your case with such a stupid point. Boots on the ground came before the tomahawks
My point is that we've sent boots on the ground to places we shouldn't have in the past, we still have boots on the ground in these places despite collapsing the governents and replacing them with literal terrorist orgs. Despite claims that Israel is going alone, we are providing aid and are involved, and even when we move to direct offensive aid, it's not going to end at just air strikes, especially if we're looking at changing the local government. It never does. You were so sure and certain that the US wouldn't get involved 'offensivly' but you've happily cheered on remarks from officials urging our direct involvement, nevermind that supportive aid is still being directly involved.
 

Majorities of every political category – 81% of Republicans, 80% of Democrats and 68% of voters not affiliated with either major party – are at least somewhat concerned that Iran may be developing a nuclear weapon.

Seventy-three percent (73%) of Republicans, 50% of Democrats and 48% of unaffiliated voters would support the United States taking military action against Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

Seventy-five percent (75%) of those who voted for Trump in last year’s election would support a U.S. strike to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons program, compared to 42% of Kamala Harris voters.

Put those voters inside the nukes and we'll see how much of them will still vote to nuke Iran.

They're afraid of Iran's nukes? Gee, are they afraid of China's and Russia's nukes too? Why don't we nuke China's and Russia's nuclear facilities too? Oh that's right, they can't do that cause China and Russia will just nuke America out of orbit.

They just don't want another nuclear power not under American influence, and those voters want America to play police in the Arabian desert. And more likely, they're Zionist shills.

More than a decade of war in Iraq and Aghanistan, and ISIS and Taliban still exist. Why keep going to the Arabian desert and waste resources?

I am all in support for military action if it concerns treaty defense alliances, and Israel and Ukraine were never part of that. It's another pointless war.
 
Don't see you commenting about 48/67 anymore. Why is that?
Why you trying to change the subject?

Why should I bother? Your pathetic attempt to shift the conversation from the massive amount of funding Israel received to a seemingly unrelated anecdote about Reagan's disgust at Israel/Israeli supported atrocities was such an own goal it wasn't worth digging into the autistic weeds any further.

I proved both of you morons wrong using your own words. Now you're just trying to save face. Should show everyone reading the level of intellectual honesty you're engaging in.

Just say thank you. Just say thank you the US, thank you Europe, thank you white people, just once. Truly, show some gratitude.
 
It's interesting how the faggot jews and their shabbos goy can simultaneously claim that bombing a military facility housing hundreds of soldiers is a terrorist attack while detonating hidden bombs in electronic devices in grocery stores is a valid military operation. There won't be any reconciling of this, jews have no sense of morality.
 
How soon until breadtubers start talking about the Israeli-Iranian war? Reminder these are the same media literacy faggots who think the movie Wicked is anti-Palestinian propaganda.
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average multipolar world enthusiast
 
My point is that we've sent boots on the ground to places we shouldn't have in the past, we still have boots on the ground in these places despite collapsing the governents and replacing them with literal terrorist orgs. Despite claims that Israel is going alone, we are providing aid and are involved, and even when we move to direct offensive aid, it's not going to end at just air strikes, especially if we're looking at changing the local government. It never does. You were so sure and certain that the US wouldn't get involved 'offensivly' but you've happily cheered on remarks from officials urging our direct involvement, nevermind that supportive aid is still being directly involved.
It's entirely logical for an Israeli to want US assistance in eliminating Iran, and it's our job as Americans to prevent our leaders from engaging in an unprovoked assault. Thankfully, we haven't yet acted in a way that shows we're engaging in offensive actions against Iran, and Iran is apparently smart enough to realize just how much shit they'd be in if they were to attack US military or economic interests (i.e., oil tankers or production facilities in the Gulf states). Israel definitely isn't going it alone, and @Catch The Rainbow hasn't ever said or implied that they have.
 
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