2025 Israel vs Iran War

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Trump was the dear leader of the entire right-wing US Evangelical Christian movement, who believe that the Jews in Israel are "Gods chosen people" and that it's the sacred duty of the US to defend Israel against it's Muslim enemies to advance the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.
You confuse boomers with republicans or people on the right. Most under 50 republicans think Israel is a joke unless they're hopeless neocons.
 
The rest of the middle east ducking hates Iran thoughever

What is Iran's "coalition of power" in the middle east? Gaza? Jordan? All the shitholes that have no money, no state, no nothing; just a bunch of zealots ready to take Iranian oil money (another petrol country upheld almost exclusively by China and some other BRICS political nonentities)
With this powerful squad of ""powerful"" countries, Iran is going to get the nuke, and then what? Pressure all the richer more decadent countries to allign with their weird quasi-theocracy?

They can barely get israel to stop bombing them, let alone preassure unalligned muslim countries into doing fucking anything.

Iran being the dominant regional power doesn't mean it's going to be well-liked, see Russia and China. Heck, even the USA isn't necessarily well-liked either.

It just means Iran is in the position of being the dominant power and consequently having more influence in the region, and more likely to intervene in regional issues.

I simply don't see Israel fulfilling that role, the same with Saudi Arabia, and US intervention would widely vary since the USA has no treaty allies in the region.
 
Realistically this is what would be me deciding fuck this man. If we get into a full scale war with Iran then I'm not only off the Trump train but I'm advocating for everyone to say no.
I didn't vote for him so I could fight and die for Israel.
I'm convinced that if you support Trump at this point, you have jewish DNA in you. Either in your blood or in your ass. He has done nothing to benefit America, and actively sabotages America's future to benefit Israel. So I must ask. What the hell is keeping you in his camp? The guy is an unregistered foreign agent.
 
I'm convinced that if you support Trump at this point, you have jewish DNA in you. Either in your blood or in your ass. He has done nothing to benefit America, and actively sabotages America's future to benefit Israel. So I must ask. What the hell is keeping you in his camp? The guy is an unregistered foreign agent.
Who are you going to vote for, then? Who has a better solution to American problems at the present time?
 
Ofc, but left-wing anti-semites almost never use this argument despite literally having the tools of historical materialism to make it. Not to argue with you, why be so reliant on theories that neo-nazis use about jewish control, of the US, when you can literally use the tools your ideology gave you? Its hard to take their analysis on anything seriously because they make very convient arguments about jews and Zionists that ignore the elephants in the room.
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by elephants in the room?
 
The fact is that this is happening because Iran is more vulnerable than they've been in a long ass time, Hamas has been bombed to hell and back, Hezbollah got their dicks blown off with pagers, and of all Iran's proxies, only the Houthis are in any sort of stable condition but they did manage to piss off a fuck ton of the world by fucking with the Red sea/Suez canal. Plus it's worth remembering that Assad is finally gone, and Russia is still tied up with Ukraine.

Most of the middle east is tired of Iran constantly starting massive amounts of shit and always hiding behind their proxies to avoid retaliation, this isn't to say they don't hate Israel, but they don't support Iran either.
 
Yes, 109 countries throughout history with wildly different cultures all decided to oppress Jews for no reason whatsoever.
The amount of unironic projection you people have for Jews referring to six million dead while autistically harping on about 109 countries is amazing.. How much would it cost me to use you for my next movie night?
 
I'm convinced that if you support Trump at this point, you have jewish DNA in you. Either in your blood or in your ass. He has done nothing to benefit America, and actively sabotages America's future to benefit Israel. So I must ask. What the hell is keeping you in his camp? The guy is an unregistered foreign agent.
Trump is better for America than anyone else. Trump has been consistent on Iran and loves the Jewish people, so our involvement while frustrating shouldn't be a surprise. If it was anyone else we'd already be at full retard prepping the 82nd to go into Iran.
 
Like 80 of them were random German towns and usually they were allowed back within a few years at the most, though there are some incredibly based examples of the Jewban lasting 200-300 years. Usually it was random German noble who controlled random German town borrowed money from Jews, didn't feel like paying it back, expelled them, the next noble who controlled the town let them back in
109 countries meanwhile the kingdoms look like

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I doubt those were even real. They were sitting there in that exact same position since at least 2022.
they were for parts pretty much
 
I'm convinced that if you support Trump at this point, you have jewish DNA in you. Either in your blood or in your ass. He has done nothing to benefit America, and actively sabotages America's future to benefit Israel. So I must ask. What the hell is keeping you in his camp? The guy is an unregistered foreign agent.
Uhh..didnt they kinda shoot kennedy, steal nuclear material, were involved in 9/11...

Trump specifically married his daughter into organized jewish real estate crime networks, lmao, and he was still the less kosher candidate at least in 2016. I hear ya man, kinda thankful sleepy joe fucked over my foreign voter registration and I havent been able to vote since then

 
The fact is that this is happening because Iran is more vulnerable than they've been in a long ass time, Hamas has been bombed to hell and back, Hezbollah got their dicks blown off with pagers, and of all Iran's proxies, only the Houthis are in any sort of stable condition but they did manage to piss off a fuck ton of the world by fucking with the Red sea/Suez canal. Plus it's worth remembering that Assad is finally gone, and Russia is still tied up with Ukraine.

Most of the middle east is tired of Iran constantly starting massive amounts of shit and always hiding behind their proxies to avoid retaliation, this isn't to say they don't hate Israel, but they don't support Iran either.

What would they replace a dismantled Iran with, Israel as the dominant power? That's just not happening either. Mohammed would be spinning on his grave if the Arab world bends its knee to Jews, that is to say, that's a wild conclusion.

Saudi Arabia is the other military power in the region but the Saudi royal family being basically willfully blind about Palestine is just as worse, for many Muslims view those Palestinians as their siblings, and the Saudi royal family just playing blind monkey about it is not exactly shaping them to be regional leaders.
 
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Iran being the dominant regional power doesn't mean it's going to be well-liked, see Russia and China. Heck, even the USA isn't necessarily well-liked either.

It just means Iran is in the position of being the dominant power and consequently having more influence in the region, and more likely to intervene in regional issues.

I simply don't see Israel fulfilling that role, the same with Saudi Arabia, and US intervention would widely vary since the USA has no treaty allies in the region.
Israel doesn't give a fuck which moon worshipper nation is top moon worshipper nation so long as it doesn't play stupid games to win stupid prizes. Same thing goes for any moon worshipper nation, they don't play stupid games Israel doesn't award them stupid prizes

Egypt stopped playing stupid games in 1978, it and Israel have got along more or less fine since then. Jordan stopped after 1967, it and Israel have gotten along more or less fine since then. No wars, no real crises, they don't particularly like each other but they work together on some things and don't fuck with each other
 
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by elephants in the room?
If I'm specifically a Marxist, even left-wing, and I think jews control everything, why I'm awfully quiet about jews being involved in communism and progressive causes? That's self defeating. That contradiction only exists if you're playing some kind of character.
 
What would they replace a dismantled Iran with, Israel as the dominant power? That's just not happening either. Mohammed would be spinning on his grave if the Arab world bends its knee to Jews.

Saudi Arabia is the other military power in the region but the Saudi royal family being basically willfully blind about Palestine is just as worse, for many Muslims those Palestinians are their siblings.
Iran isn't the dominant power in the Middle East, that would be the United States whenever it has an excuse for visiting.

I know you're referring to a power vacuum Iran's next revolution could create, but the thing nations in that region would be fighting over wouldn't be "becoming the dominant power." Watching a rival nation (and in many cases rival religion) suffer a humiliating defeat would open up a myriad of opportunity.
 
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