2025 Israel vs Iran War

# ✈️ Senior Israeli official to Channel 12: We're receiving positive signals from the U.S. — they’re asking for clear proof of air superiority.

# 🛑 Israeli cabinet ministers: We must not stop until we achieve the goal of destabilizing the Iranian regime.

# 💥 Channel 12 News: The warhead aimed at Ramat Gan today dispersed at 7 km above the target into smaller submunitions, striking multiple locations.
 
I'm mostly thinking about it from a military perspective. The GBU-57 is untested and we'd have no way of confirming if it worked or not, plus we're bombing a site where Iran's storing the majority of their 60%-enriched uranium so that complicates things. You don't want to accidentally create the world's largest dirty bomb if it somehow gets into the air or the water table.
The oceans have several billion tons of uranium in them, it's not that dangerous. This is not a point of concern to anyone.
 
Iran spent every oil dollar they made on military rather than becoming a developed state and they have nothing to show for it.
They spent it all on their proxies and backing Assad like America backed the NVA. Cost them over $50 billion alone for Syria. What was wasted on a failed dynasty could have been spent improving air superiority and forging alliances. Its a remarkable failure to prepare for the inevitable war Iran wanted so badly. Irans nuclear folly will go down as one of the greatest strategic errors in modern time.
 
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I'm so tired of this "do nothing/win" meme about china that gets bandied about.
Every single time anything remotely bad happens in America, or anything remotely possibly against American interests happens, it's apparently the end for the US and finally China will rise and secure the mandate of heaven or whatever the Chicoms call it.

And its especially retarded here since Iran is de facto aligned with China, and this isn't exactly going great for Iran, which means it isn't some magical win for China.
 
The Internet is still shut down in Iran so less footage is getting out:
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I'm so tired of this "do nothing/win" meme about china that gets bandied about.
Every single time anything remotely bad happens in America, or anything remotely possibly against American interests happens, it's apparently the end for the US and finally China will rise and secure the mandate of heaven or whatever the Chicoms call it.

And its especially retarded here since Iran is de facto aligned with China, and this isn't exactly going great for Iran, which means it isn't some magical win for China.
It's straight underpants gnome logic

1. America does something I hate because I'm a Nazi larper/tankie/wumao/whatever
2. ?
3. THE MCPOYLES BRICS SHALL RULE THE WORLD
 
you might not like it but jews and arabs (or other roach/muslim varities) weren't in fact holding hands singing kumbaya the last few centuries, they've always vehemently hated each other so it shouldn't be a surprise that shit didn't go swimmingly when they went and reclaimed ze holy land in 1948 knowing the arabs didn't want the influx of jews there, and because Israel decided to settle right between the people that hate them the most it has led to many of the post-1948 invasions and attacks.
It makes more sense for the Jewish community to abandon zionism, it's just a retarded jew-centric form of settler colonialism that is only barely kept alive by one of the most powerful nations in the world. If all of the jews stayed in their new york apartments and homes in western europe way less of them would be dead fighting wars and getting bombed.
 
Okay man I cannot tell if you're fucking with me or you have brain damage.
I really don't have time to chase everyone around. I know what I saw and the interception rate on the first salvos wasn't great. It improved last night until it didn't. Batteries ran out or whatever.
How Israelis count is a mistery. Just the arrow self detonating isn't interception and it can't track more than 5 in A1 or 14 in A2 objects anyway. Iran hasn't launched more than 30-50 in a single volley and the interception with arrow missiles is piss poor. Claims of 90% average is as bullshit as russians/ukrainians claiming imaginary victories
Alright straight up, what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you broken? I'm so, so confused.
I disagree with what you are saying.
 
Your insight is valuable but also foolish.
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It is the same as the fault in Afganistan. U.S. troops were drinking tea with locals. Great fun, made frends. Then they stepped outside the house and got shot in the back.

If i were to write an essay on a model occupation, I'd write it about the US occupation of Japan. I have qualms with Macarthur, but not with his handling of the Japanese occupation.

He was wise enough to allow Hirohito to maintain his office, Hirohito would oversee the civilian authority at the expense of adopting the Potsdam accords and ousting the Japanese military command. Later during the rebuilding process in 47 many of these purged leaders were actually allowed to return to their govt offices. This helped build trust and continued support for the transition into constitutional monarchy.

You mentioned Okinawa and the rapes, and that's actually an interesting facet of the occupation.

The Japanese civil authority actually organized hundreds of thousands of women into state run brothels out of fear that American GIs would go rape crazy. Macarthur nixed that in 46 as undemocratic (though voluntary prostitution was still allowed) and by the end of the occupation mainland Japan had less then a hundred reported cases of rape.

That was largely a response to the 10-20,000 reported rapes on Okinawa during the occupation, and a reason the 21st century US soldier rape incidents on Okinawa caused so much outrage.

There is no perfect occupation, but the Japanese occupation is one of the best IMO. They were able to rebuild the economy of Japan, not overreach into civil matters and create a stable country and important regional ally. I'm a fan. I feel like Japanese favoribility ratings of the US would support my conclusion.

Afghanistan is about the worst occupation you could imagine. We lacked the translators needed to communicate, we hadn't killed all their fighting aged men like in Japan, Islam is very different from god emperors, and the state of Afghanistan was more a collection of 40 some odd tribes with their own idiosyncracies we were never able to understand and manage. Maybe if we glassed them first like Lemay would have recommended it would have gone better, but who outside of Minnesota lawyers wants irradiated opium.
It will almost certainly strengthen their resolve. Your enemy blowing up hospitals and apartments makes the populace want to kill the enemy, not surrender to them, and the more barbaric one behaves in war, the more their enemy fights to the death
If Israel hadn't started a preemptive war several days ago and Iran made the opening salvo I'd totally agree.

That hospital is not bombed yesterday without Isreal's decision to take out nuclear facilities last week.

I dont think there is any plausible scenario where Israel surrenders, Iran does not seem to have the capability to cause enough damage for that. I think they possess a nuke, I doubt they possess a reliable delivery method and the will to have their country glassed in retaliation 10 times worse then whatever they can inflict on Isreal.

They do have the ability to cause enough damage to make Israelis grow weary of bomb shelters after all the Iranian nuclear bases have all been bombed and decommissioned by fire. I could see the Isreali citizenry becomming tired of that scenario pressuring govt for an end. That would look like Bibi claiming "mission accomplished" and negotiating a cease fire. I think that's the most likely outcome anyway. At some point Isreal is going to have to decide if troop commitments will be as successful as the current bombing campaigns (and even with US troops backing them they won't ever be as successful).

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Peace With Honor. What could go wrong.
 
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Does anyone know if this is accurate?

Is there anyone publicly keeping track of missiles launched vs successful hits? If there is could you link it?
I'd believe it. If Iran is using cluster munitions I don't see how they could easily block all of that.
 
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It makes more sense for the Jewish community to abandon zionism, it's just a retarded jew-centric form of settler colonialism that is only barely kept alive by one of the most powerful nations in the world. If all of the jews stayed in their new york apartments and homes in western europe way less of them would be dead fighting wars and getting bombed.
"settler colonialism"
you are brown lol
 
I'm so tired of this "do nothing/win" meme about china that gets bandied about.
Every single time anything remotely bad happens in America, or anything remotely possibly against American interests happens, it's apparently the end for the US and finally China will rise and secure the mandate of heaven or whatever the Chicoms call it.

And its especially retarded here since Iran is de facto aligned with China, and this isn't exactly going great for Iran, which means it isn't some magical win for China.
But China has the biggest military in the world with the most advanced tech! Nevermind they've not been in a war since 1979 where they had their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese who were also invading Cambodia at the same time. But...but... two aircraft carriers!!11!!! Yeah, so? They've had them for less than a decade. NATO and the US have been using aircraft carries since WWII, we know what we're doing. "lol, you lost three F/A-18s to the Houthis!!" I'd like to see how the Chinese would have handled their carriers being attacked. China, like the rest of BRICS/Axis of Resistance, is a paper tiger that hasn't seen real combat in decades.
 
1517 Hebron Attacks
1517 Safed Attacks
1660 destruction of Safed
1660 destruction of Tiberias
1834 Battle of Hebron
1834 looting of Safed
1929 Palestine Riots
1929 Hebron massacre
1936 Jaffa Riots
1938 Tiberias massacre

you might not like it but jews and arabs (or other roach/muslim varities) weren't in fact holding hands singing kumbaya the last few centuries, they've always vehemently hated each other so it shouldn't be a surprise that shit didn't go swimmingly when they went and reclaimed ze holy land in 1948 knowing the arabs didn't want the influx of jews there, and because Israel decided to settle right between the people that hate them the most it has led to many of the post-1948 invasions and attacks.

all in all i would've preferred if jews moseyed on over to Point Nemo or something, their inevitable conflict with the fucking sharks would've been easier to budget for.
You did good homework but... Israel didn't exist before 1948
 
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