US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[>IMPLYING]

Houses are not built on supply and demand anymore. They are built on infinite economic growth since 2008. Real Estate investors would rather sit on unsold houses then sell at a loss.

One of the reasons private equity firms invest so heavily into real estate is because it's one of the most consistent assets you can own since the value perpetually increasing so long as the population is. There's the vein of perpetual growth in there but it's also one of the safest assets you can hold. When you put money into an ISA, such as with Vanguard, there's no guarantee that you'll only see your deposit grow. In contrast, save for the property value being lowered by external factors or neglect, a house will only ever go up in value. It was the case before the 2008 financial crisis, and it's still the case after.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

But what was the end goal? To prove that monkeys hate fake monkeys and prefer something similar to themselves? To prove racism is a thing?

It's along the same lines as the experiments they did depriving human babies of human touch. Half the babies died because they needed more than just nutrition. In the case of the monkeys they were seeing if they could get a monkey to treat the "wire mom" which feeds them as a real mother or if they would prefer the softer but non-feeding mother to see if monkeys, like humans, need more than just nutrition.

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

There needs to be cuts. But it never.. fucking happens. Ever.

The bulk of the budget is in medicaid, Medicare, and other welfare shit good luck cutting that and getting out alive.
But you know another way to cut it? Deporting illegals who steal it through identity fraud, rotting out schemes to steal it through fraud and abuse, and improving the health of the country (to decrease medical spending), and adding work requirements all of which this administration is doing.

 

[DumbDude43]

Houses are not built on supply and demand anymore. They are built on infinite economic growth since 2008. Real Estate investors would rather sit on unsold houses then sell at a loss.

no investor or group of investors has anywhere near the amount of market power that would be necessary to dictate price developments that go against fundamental market forces.
the housing market situation is very clear: state sponsored mass immigration inflates housing demand. but housing construction is not an industry that can scale up production at will - land to build on is finite and limited by zoning laws along with various other rules and regulations. in this sector, supply is very static.
so we have a very fast increase in demand, and a very slow increase in supply. when demand outpaces supply, prices rise. that's macroeconomics 101, and it's exactly what we have seen IRL.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on BBB?

While it’s nice that Trump got his no tax on tips and there’s money for ICE and sure: You have to make compromises, but I can’t help but think that it’s another pork filled disaster.

ONE TRILLION DOLLAR pentagon budget.
Few DOGE cuts.
BORROW MORE! What’s an extra five trillion borrowed money between friends?

There are things I like and things I do not.

I am 100% behind no tax on tips or overtime. I neither get tips nor do I have any chance for overtime but there was a time for both of those things in my life and nothing was more crushing than trying to get ahead by working a bunch of extra hours only to see the government reach in my pocket.

I believe the Trump tax cuts are made permanent through it which is very important.

The spending...is....not good but at least it is not being spent on trans monkey stomping.

I think the tips and overtime changes will really improve things for a lot of people.

 

[>IMPLYING]

And Trump is saying fuck that, we're opening land up specifically for housing and development.

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You need to build more houses than new people arriving at a bare minimum. Do do this Trump will need to vastly reduce legal immigration alongside more properties. This isn't like a black pill thing, just that if you want cheaper houses in the US's future, you can't just focus on illegals.

 

[Bill's Due]

>cites Vtuber
Bruh. Even then, not enough. 500k starting is not reasonable in the slightest.

You should know she was trying to find housing in New England so she and her real estate agent were autistically looking for something that was reasonably priced. The house prices are plummeting and they will continue to plummet. That's a good thing. The boomers are having their wealth diminished for their greed.

 

[mlanguishi]

The bulk of the budget is in medicaid, Medicare, and other welfare shit good luck cutting that and getting out alive.
But you know another way to cut it? Deporting illegals who steal it through identity fraud, rotting out schemes to steal it through fraud and abuse, and improving the health of the country (to decrease medical spending), and adding work requirements all of which this administration is doing.

Yes, it's always been that way. The bulk is social spending in t he USA. The biggest joke is they take the social security entitlments and try to seperate them, while at the same time using that income to go into the rest of the joke budget.

Economics in general, Soviet, USA, whatever when it gets big, is a laughing stock of nonsense that will last a long time, maybe a very long time. But it's all a house of cards like in the 1920s, any major shock could be the end. But also, nothing at all could make people hugely rich like crpyto in places. It's all a game that does encourage most people to work and produce for below their value which pumps up the system.

And those that work below value are the deserved suckers, that's one thing Marx got wrong. They do it and aren't slaves.

That's why it drives me nuts when people bitch about .5% of the budget going to NASA which is actually a good thing, while over 50% goes to boomers gambling or niggers using it on weed and crack.

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

The humiliation ritual Ted Cruz received is what happens when a retard gets coached on how to answer to the press from some AIPAC people.

 

[WelperHelper99]

You should know she was trying to find housing in New England so she and her real estate agent were autistically looking for something that was reasonably priced. The house prices are plummeting and they will continue to plummet. That's a good thing. The boomers are having their wealth diminished for their greed.

I'm talking about Utah's prices. I see New England is little better.

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You need to build more houses than new people arriving at a bare minimum. Do do this Trump will need to vastly reduce legal immigration alongside more properties. This isn't like a black pill thing, just that if you want cheaper houses in the US's future, you can't just focus on illegals.

We can build more houses. We need more land and looser regulations.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

ICE Agents tackle illegals outside Home Depot in Hollywood, Calif.

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"Trying to earn a living." You can do that in Mexico, buddy.

In Padilla’s favor, he does struggle valiantly to overcome his speech impediment.

Does Padilla actually have a speech impediment or is this a joke? I'm curious.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

There needs to be cuts. But it never.. fucking happens. Ever.

Maybe $100b off here and there, but look at the charts, it's up and up. They cut social spending, it'll go to ICE (Ok I guess). I'm pro-military too, and obviously cut the gun shit, ,that's just been the dumbest nonsense forever but shouldn't cost anything. In fact getting SBR's and suppressors off NFA will only help the economy.

The only thing that has kept debt to GDP ratio is building the GDP more than debt. Without that ratio, it's getting bad. Rush Limbaugh used to say long ago that the national debt wasn't that bad, it was like someone with a 150k mortgage. Well it's getting to the point of a $500k mortgage on a $100k income. Not good. A few poins changes in the interest rates aren't going to change things much either.

I agree, there need to be cuts, but until we can have a serious, adult conversation, as a country, about entitlements we're never getting serious reform of those. This is one of Democratic systems biggest issues, once the average person discovers they can vote themselves money, that's what they'll do and any politician that votes to seriously cut those entitlements is ending his career. Now, if we can start getting the illegals and shouldn't be here types out in large numbers, then maybe we can get some space to talk about cutting things by pointing out that we don't need as much since the illegals were taking it. Maybe. The other alternative is a Caesar whole who will dictate cuts, but I don't know if America is there yet. May have to wait until the Boomers gracelessly expire.

 

[Endless Torment]

But what was the end goal? To prove that monkeys hate fake monkeys and prefer something similar to themselves? To prove racism is a thing?

Neither he was a psychologist studying the importance of mother-child bonding and contact.

 

[SITHRAK!]

There is no nuance in my argument, buddy

I’m no Muslim appreciator and if you look up, for example, my last post on the RIP thread you’ll see you and I are absolutely in sync when it comes to expelling Muslims from western nations.
I’m just saying that modern-day Muslim hatred of the West didn’t come out of nowhere and America’s Middle East fuckery and irrational defense of Israel are a huge contributing factor to why Muslims are durka-durking all over the West.
You should also be focusing on the Jewish-driven Kalergi plan and globalist neocon/‘arab spring’ bullshit that puts the Muslims in your backyard to begin with. You’re mad at the symptom and ignoring the cause.

 

[>IMPLYING]

We can build more houses. We need more land and looser regulations.

Not if this continues to happen.

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I suppose decreasing permit costs might allow for more new constructions to start. Although one of the main issues with trying to lower housing prices is you may see a knock-on effect in the same vein as increasing fuel prices.

Lower demand for houses by slowing rate of population growth (immigration) -> lower prices -> less worth in starting new constructions to make a profit on sale -> see fewer houses anyway and thus no price decrease + construction companies get less work. But the blackpilled sentiment is to not even try in the first place, so it's worth a go if it means more Americans are able to afford their own home in the future.

 

[Fapcop]

ICE Agents tackle illegals outside Home Depot in Hollywood, Calif.

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Would be pretty funny if one of you shitlords went to Home Depot in a pick up truck to pick up some day workers to “fix your basement”.

And then drove them straight to the nearest local ICE office.

Tucker basically said that you should have trivia facts memorized because it gives people the impression that you care

Wrong.

Tucker pointed out that Cruz doesn’t know the first thing about the country he wants to go to war with.

It’s not about “trivia facts” it’s about being able to predict the consequences of your decisions.

Things like how many people, what’s the ethnic makeup, what’s the history of the country are all important questions to keep in mind when making a decision.

Just like knowing basic facts about Iraq before the war would enable someone to say: “Welp, seems like this would be a bad idea, because it’ll most likely end in a clusterfuck and the country growing close to Iran, given their large Shia population!”

 

[Quence]

Chicago’s massive black vote does not empower blacks; it empowers Democrats. By ensconcing the likes of Pritzker in power, it is pulling the entire state down the Democrat Death Spiral.

That is the negro way. Remember, most negroes are enraptured by shiny and glittering things - gold teef, oversized bling rings & necklaces, spinning hubcaps, a ball of aluminium polished to a glossy finish - they want what they see and they want it right NOW. They are completely reactionary and devoid of longterm planning. So when the Leftist pols promise them more EBT, more welfare, more free phones, well, that will always win their vote over promising school choice and good jobs.

Hard disagree. Memorizing demographics isn't actaully important to staying current on what's going on in Iran. It's more important to know about the terror networks they back throughout the Middle East, like their relationship with Hezbollah.

I fully demur with that opinion. ANY time a US politician is willing to put American citizens in harms way, it is their absolute DUTY to know everything they can about the country they want to attack.

For God’s sake, we have 2+ decades of incompetence in both Iraq and Afghanistan where most of the politicians were utterly clueless about what was actually happening. We had pols who didn’t have a basic understanding of either country and yet they signed off on year after year of war funding that that resulted in TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars being completely wasted AND the death and permanent disability of 10’s of thousands of American soldiers.

Never again. This is not acceptable.

 

[Bill's Due]

The bulk of the budget is in medicaid, Medicare, and other welfare shit good luck cutting that and getting out alive.
But you know another way to cut it? Deporting illegals who steal it through identity fraud, rotting out schemes to steal it through fraud and abuse, and improving the health of the country (to decrease medical spending), and adding work requirements all of which this administration is doing.

There's way too much idealization in this thread from some hardcore lolbertarians. We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Cutting Medicaid, Medicare, and other welfare shit and Social Security is a great way to guarantee the entire MAGA populist dies quickly and be replaced by a snake like Cruz.

I don't think some people quite understand how a right-populist nationalist movement works. It's not a fiscally conservative or tradcon movement. The discretionary cuts aren't just to make government smaller because "lol government spending bad". It's mostly to get rid of shit that hurts the nation. Too much spending on shit we don't need happens to hurt the nation. Lolbertarians will agree Medicaid, Medicare, and SS are giant sinkholes, but in a right-populist perspective, you are willing to spend money on "gibs" or whatever because you know it ultimately helps the nation in the long run *as long as that money goes to the right people*.

Right populists don't mind gibs existing, they just don't want such gibs to be handed out to lazy blacks that shit out niglets and illegals that shit out kids as "anchor babies".

Trump is taking care of the second problem, but the first problem is either a race-based IQ/biology thing or a cultural thing. I don't really give a shit WHAT is causing them to act the way they do, but we need to stop fucking incentivizing it and allowing these fuckers to live off of the middle class.

That's why fuckers like Dave Smith will never be a reliable "ally" because he is too autistically focused on MUH SPENDING instead of realizing that we unfortunately have to spend money to make money and fix the mess Biden and his sockpuppet admin made. Libertarians never think of the long run or the health of a nation because they're not nationalist, they're ultra individualistic and only care about the freedoms of the individual, even if it compromises the safety of the nation the individuals live in.

Once one pulls their head out of their ass about the whole two-axis left/right libertarian/authoritarian bullshit, they'll realize populism is a multifaceted movement that you can't conveniently shove into one box. Disparate groups will latch onto it because parts of it support their agenda (ethnonationalists for example). But then they turn around and yell at Trump and get angry that he dares to let "legal immigrants" in or spend extra $$$ to provide incentives to businesses to come back to the states and manufacture here.

The only weak spot, as many have correctly pointed out here, is Trump's weird positions on Israel. Personally, just like Ukraine, I think we need to fuck off and stop giving them money, because it's not helping our nation at ALL, but the unfortunate part is a lot of the MAGA populist movement unfortunately has two-faced Jews like Shapiro and cucks like Cruz that control a sizable portion of the right wing demographic.

It annoys the fuck out of me that they have this "dual loyalty" and they get offended when we make fun of it for it. "I have family in Israel". Who the fuck cares? Why didn't you help them migrate here if you care so much about them? Weren't you the same motherfuckers that wanted us to end the wars on Afghanistan? Oh, you only wanted the US to stop warring in Afghanistan so we could fight YOUR war? Yeah, fuck that.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I agree, there need to be cuts, but until we can have a serious, adult conversation, as a country, about entitlements we're never getting serious reform of those. This is one of Democratic systems biggest issues, once the average person discovers they can vote themselves money, that's what they'll do and any politician that votes to seriously cut those entitlements is ending his career. Now, if we can start getting the illegals and shouldn't be here types out in large numbers, then maybe we can get some space to talk about cutting things by pointing out that we don't need as much since the illegals were taking it. Maybe. The other alternative is a Caesar whole who will dictate cuts, but I don't know if America is there yet. May have to wait until the Boomers gracelessly expire.

Cutting bullshit spending on transgender pan-Afghani ritual dancers and kicking out the illegals will help a lot.

 

[Betonhaus]

I unironically and genuinely believe that someday we're going to discover a lot of this shit -- homosexuality (beyond a certain point), transsexuality, the batshit insane leftist women, etc -- is the result of some sort of parasite or prion disease that is causing the behavior changes. Like, for example: leftists have no risk assessment. It's why you see shit like women just walking up casually to an obviously batshit insane druggie, or demanding we let in foreign rape gangs, or ignoring away crime statistics or what have you. That screams parasite fucking with their head filtered through sentient human behavior to me. Something like toxoplasmosis or what have you.

The problem is finding this out will absolutely 100% result in them suppressing the shit out of this because who wants to admit an entire half of the country is literally being driven insane by worms in their intestines or something?

They're not worms, they're SSRIs and other psychological drugs