Undertale

[Don Yagon]

I still call that game "Yeek" in my head despite the title actually being "Y2k"

In YIIK 2 Michael actually does pronounce it as such when namedropping it. I think it's more of a running joke.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

In YIIK 2 Michael actually does pronounce it as such when namedropping it. I think it's more of a running joke.
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There' a YIIK 2?

 

[Don Yagon]

There' a YIIK 2?

Yes, it's accessible in YIIK I.V if you say you aren't Alex in post-ending cutscene.

 

[Strangolapreti]

I unironically want chapter 5 to feature a small collab like a npc or easter egg made by the Allanson brothers, just like in chapter 4 the tranny that did celeste and minecraft music made the piano tracks kris performed.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Someone made an apt comparison to Alex "Yiik" Engglestando.

Heh, funny comparison. Unfortunately for Alex, Noelle is a furry, a woman, lesbian, and vaguely brown, so she has higher priority in the retard olympics...

well thats the silver lining of having fag shit in your game right? kris "isnt a guy." if the deltatroon nu-writers are serious about him being a heckin valid enby that puts him higher on the progressive stack than two simple dykes so they have no justification for cucking kris out of lizard and doe poon (other than it being funny)

Like here, where Kris will be thrown under the boss as non-black guys are considered lower in the totem pole compared to women, and wokes hate Asians to boot, for not to mention that rules are a suggestion anyway. It will be quite fun if Toby "dares" to ruin the lesbian shipping with someone that looks like a guy, no matter how he identifies as.

not if hes FUCKING DEAD (as it should be)

Part of the evil route, which we don't know how it will end.

The emotional ending that Toby saw was Kris's head fighting everyone in an unwinnable scripted battle and then ending the game with another unwinnable scripted battle.

So, a dumber version of Mother 3, then?

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Part of the evil route, which we don't know how it will end.

in the hospital you have the option to warm him up and turn on the space heater. i dont necessarily think thats the end of it but i do think you will be able to choose if you want to save his life or let him die for realsies.
you know so far deltarune has been a lot more cucked than undertale about whether or not things actually die when you "kill" them using violence, including the icy cool boys you create in snowgrave, but imo theres a breaking point fast approaching where shit will get very real very quickly

Spoiler: interesting weird route lategame theory from 4cuck

kris gets so platinum mad at the red soul after it forces the thorn ring upon noelle that he might legitimately commit suicide at some point to destroy the soul. i believe the rose/red dot/thorn vine/whatever fucking thing you have in your game version is a representation of a piece of the soul that was physically embedded in noelle when you did that. at the end of the weird route noelle will become the player character, controlled by (you), because kris will be fucking dead

 

[Smack Patrick]

>call Kris a 'he/him'
>hundreds of weirdos correcting me
>call Kris a 'she/her'
>nothing

. The shirt seems like a likely candidate but I wonder if it's going be something totally out there like the piece of chalk Suzie steals in the first 5 minutes or something that plays off the fact Kris isn't really a normal human

I always just assumed Ralsei was the red horns Kris kept as a kid. Ralsei does have red horns afterall.

Of course I could also just be misinterpreting and overthinking her intentions during that closet scene,

Nah you're not, it's highlighted in yellow that means it's important. Noelle was being a total cunt in that exchange, so much so Kris notices [ ! ] and flinches, which means it stood out to him.
The whole crush thing seems too fucking retardedly obnoxious to me to the point I honestly think it's gonna end in disaster at the festival.
>Noelle tries to approach Susie
>Weirded out by Kris being there
>Noelle is excited to hang out with Susie at her house.
>Disappointed when she finds out Kris is coming.
The fact that Susie explicitly states she's taking Noelle to the festival and not we (her and kris) is gonna be another thing that will disappoint and piss off Noelle.
Telling you lads, Ch5 is gonna be the "Noelle crashes out at Kris and botches her 'relationship' with Susie" chapter. Unless you're in the Weird route which something will cause Susie to be weirded out and leave.

 

[Point 707]

 

[Tinnitus]

I kinda hope this is intentional, because it would give me the same schadenfreude that I get from the reaction to Toriel being an alcoholic. Plus it fits with the general throughline of Deltarune and Undertale being different in ways meant to specifically fuck with fan shit, so having the addition of "the (at least second) favorite pairing is a relationship that brings out the worst of both" would slot in pretty well, too.

She and Sans are a great pairing at doing nothing while children are exposed to danger at every turn.

Sans in UT promised her to not attack Frisk but any other monster is allowed to do their best.

Carol is doing her job as mayor, supports Asgore financially even after firing him from the police and kept the glued shut Santa's at her home.
DR better has Kris end up living with Carol & Rudy.

The fact that Susie explicitly states she's taking Noelle to the festival and not we (her and kris) is gonna be another thing that will disappoint and piss off Noelle.
Telling you lads, Ch5 is gonna be the "Noelle crashes out at Kris and botches her 'relationship' with Susie" chapter. Unless you're in the Weird route which something will cause Susie to be weirded out and leave.

Susie never gave off the impression of being interested into Noelle.

If anything Susie's dynamic with Kris before Ch.1 reminds me of Helga from Arnold's Modern Life.

 

[Newcomer 42]

in the hospital you have the option to warm him up and turn on the space heater. i dont necessarily think thats the end of it but i do think you will be able to choose if you want to save his life or let him die for realsies.
you know so far deltarune has been a lot more cucked than undertale about whether or not things actually die when you "kill" them using violence, including the icy cool boys you create in snowgrave, but imo theres a breaking point fast approaching where shit will get very real very quickly

I wonder if Berdie is going to really be killed or leave his fate uncertain. In UT the monster kid wasn't killed (not on screen at least), and Berdley is a teenager, so I give Toby a 50% chance he has the chicken become a nugget... Unless the trannies scream at him, but then again, they don't care about guys, so I dunno.

She and Sans are a great pairing at doing nothing while children are exposed to danger at every turn.

Sans in UT promised her to not attack Frisk but any other monster is allowed to do their best.

Ah no, it's worse. Sans wastes no time to passively aggressively threaten you, even in a Pacifist Route, and the LOVE thing is explained after it's too late to do anything about it (barring resets). UT relied too much on guiltrips IMO.

 

[Local Wordmason]

you know so far deltarune has been a lot more cucked than undertale about whether or not things actually die when you "kill" them using violence, including the icy cool boys you create in snowgrave, but imo theres a breaking point fast approaching where shit will get very real very quickly

iirc the unobtainable Twisted Sword that you can craft out of the "Pure Crystal" and the Thorn Ring, actually kills things like in Undertale. I don't know if that's from it being an unimplemented weapon and it doesn't act the same, or if that's mechanically what is supposed to happen. It's also interesting that it gives the Trance effect like the thorn ring does, so that theory might be true. I noticed that the red cracks in the Thorn Ring scene in chapter 4 look very similar to the same red that the soul is. I theorized that there's some kind of process that creates a soul and the weird route is that soul self propagating through forcing others to become vessels as well. It's essentially planting the seed that will grow into a soul after preparing the ground by clearing away any other convictions Noelle had in chapter 2. Maybe that's why Toby changed things because it did have a little too much of an impregnation metaphor going on when he was going more for a garden thing. There's this scene in chapter 4 if you're on the weird route that has some bizarre implications of something growing in Noelle maybe.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

The fact that Susie explicitly states she's taking Noelle to the festival and not we (her and kris) is gonna be another thing that will disappoint and piss off Noelle.

I mean Susie outright says to Kris (if you say you'd choose her on who you'd rather take to the festival) that picking her is a cop-out answer, because if she's going then of course you would be with her.

Noelle is gonna crash out after their "date" is just Kris and Susie having fun and being close and she's the third wheel.

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Ah no, it's worse. Sans wastes no time to passively aggressively threaten you, even in a Pacifist Route, and the LOVE thing is explained after it's too late to do anything about it (barring resets). UT relied too much on guiltrips IMO.

I remember going through UT myself and found myself getting just a bit miffed at Sans for that; the community hypes him up as the greatest thing ever, but he's just a lazy prick who both threatens you and doesn't explain some pretty important shit until the endgame... and then gets irate at you if you don't play flawlessly. Seriously, WTF?

She and Sans are a great pairing at doing nothing while children are exposed to danger at every turn.

That's the issue I had with Toriel as well; she just sits on her arse in the Ruins and lets the kids all wander off and die... then gets irate when they end up dying? UT's whole story is broken...

But anyways... what's the current status of Deltarune's plot? I haven't really kept up with anything since Chapter 2 came out, and I still haven't combed through the whole thing. I'm well aware of the "Weird Route" for Chapter 2, but what's all this about Asgore's plot in all this? And what else am I missing, about a festival?

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

but what's all this about Asgore's plot in all this?

Toriel divorced his ass again and he's a jobless depressed dude that basically lost his entire life, meanwhile Toriel treats him like a creepy stranger and is about 5 minutes away from jumping in bed with sans. He didn't even kill any kids in this universe and he's still fucked over lmao.

There's some theories floating round that he witnessed Noelles sister being sucked into the dark world but everyone thought he was insane so he was dismissed from the Police force and his life fell apart as a result. There's also some hints sprinkled around that point to him being the next fountain maker, with some people theorizing that Sans and Toriel going to the upcoming festival that's been mentioned throughout each episode and Asgore seeing them is the tipping point.

Reasonable crashout, but as of now nothing really set in stone. A lot of buildup but no payoff yet.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Toriel divorced his ass again and he's a jobless depressed dude that basically lost his entire life, meanwhile Toriel treats him like a creepy stranger and is about 5 minutes away from jumping in bed with sans. He didn't even kill any kids in this universe and he's still fucked over lmao.

There's some theories floating round that he witnessed Noelles sister being sucked into the dark world but everyone thought he was insane so he was dismissed from the Police force and his life fell apart as a result. There's also some hints sprinkled around that point to him being the next fountain maker, with some people theorizing that Sans and Toriel going to the upcoming festival that's been mentioned throughout each episode and Asgore seeing them is the tipping point.

Reasonable crashout, but as of now nothing really set in stone. A lot of buildup but no payoff yet.

Technically not jobless, he's self employed and owns a small business, but he keeps giving away all his flowers to everyone for free like a dumbass.

 

[Outland Cow]

That's the issue I had with Toriel as well; she just sits on her arse in the Ruins and lets the kids all wander off and die... then gets irate when they end up dying? UT's whole story is broken...

There's a lot wrong with Undertale's narrative, but Toriel being an irresponsible bitch really isn't one of them. She's just a cunt. The fandom puts her on this pedestal like she's mom of the year but she's terrible to everyone who isn't named Sans or a kid she's currently grooming and that's a symptom of most of Undertale's fandom experiencing the game as tertiaries through YouTube playthroughs or Twitter fanart. She's not a good person. She is not written to be a good person. She does nice things, but that does not make her "good" contrary to what the fandom insists! She's angry at Asgore for not killing children... but the gets mad when he does because she's a fucking psycho. She breaks down and crashes out if you show her violence after egging you on into fighting her, proclaiming you're just like the rest of them. She's not stable. The other monsters do not talk kindly about the hag holed up in the ruins! It's not a positive thing!
Her behavior is consistent in Deltarune. She's a postmenopausal monster who emotionally abuses her (admittedly pathetic) ex-husband and neglects her teenage son.

Spoiler: Ch3 Secret Route Spoilers

Whatever happened to Dess that people assumedly blame Asgore for is, funnily enough, probably actually Toriel's fault since there's a variable in the game literally named "toriel" that turns a black deer character in the Mantle minigame into a fucked up monster if it's set to 1.

I remember going through UT myself and found myself getting just a bit miffed at Sans for that; the community hypes him up as the greatest thing ever, but he's just a lazy prick who both threatens you and doesn't explain some pretty important shit until the endgame... and then gets irate at you if you don't play flawlessly. Seriously, WTF?

Your issue is that you went in expecting something that wasn't even in the game. Sans is a piece of shit and I'm convinced his behavior in Deltarune is Toby's response to the fandom's character assassination of him as this sad chungus character when he's a mean, lazy sack of shit. He never explains the LOVE shit because his role is being a judge for you at the end of the game. He's a bad person, yes, but he's still the judge. It's not his responsibility to tell you what to do, it's to judge you. And to make sure you're even able to make it to the end, since Toriel asked him to not kill you. And he doesn't get "irate" at you unless you literally genocide everyone. He doesn't even fight if you only kill Papyrus, just berates you for it. Big whoop. It really sounds like most of your problem with UT is that you went in with it expecting the gay fanon version secondaries talk about. And don't get me wrong, there's plenty of gay shit in Undertale, but none of what you listed is any of it.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

That's the issue I had with Toriel as well; she just sits on her arse in the Ruins and lets the kids all wander off and die... then gets irate when they end up dying? UT's whole story is broken...

i dont think the story is broken, you just realized the truth that sans and toriel, the hilarious skelebro and the doting goatmom, really arent such great people after all. (i think most people who played undertale in their teens and came back to deltarune 10 years later in their 20s are bound to realize this)

they both have a passive aggressive streak that they let run unchecked. sans tries hard to appear above it all with his shit humor but really hes kind of a cunt and a nihilist. meanwhile toriel goes thru the motions doing everything she thinks she can for you in both undertale and deltarune but the truth is that she just doesnt fucking get that its doing you no good. woman moment

i actually killed her the first time i played undertale because she was refusing to stop fighting and i didnt think she would relent after all. only went back to try again after sans complained that she stopped answering the door at the ruins which was a bit sad

But anyways... what's the current status of Deltarune's plot? I haven't really kept up with anything since Chapter 2 came out, and I still haven't combed through the whole thing. I'm well aware of the "Weird Route", but what's all this about Asgore's plot in all this?

a lot of new shit has surfaced regarding the nature of the dark worlds, the big world ending prophecy, the roaring knight, but most of it is still ambiguous or could lead to multiple conclusions. chapter 5 will be about the festival in hometown. not sure theres any concrete evidence that asgore will be a central point but hes been appearing a lot in chapters 3 and 4 in progressively weirder and weirder situations while seeming more and more desperate so something is probably bound to snap. the only people in town who dont seem to treat him like a piece of shit (for reasons we still dont know) are the mayor whos still a bitch and rudy whos still in hospital

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

He didn't even kill any kids in this universe and he's still fucked over lmao.

Sounds like Asgore is Toby's personal whipping boy, frankly.

Technically not jobless, he's self employed and owns a small business, but he keeps giving away all his flowers to everyone for free like a dumbass.

Case in point.

It really sounds like most of your problem with UT is that you went in with it expecting the gay fanon version people talk about.

Eh, not quite; I gave UT a shot back before I really had any encounters with the community, and... found the game to be fairly middle of the road, frankly. It's the same issue I've got with Spec Ops: The Line, in that it relies too heavily on pushing the blame on the player for the crap the in-universe cast is doing. Already had the reputation of being a fairly "meh" game in my mind, but then the community started pushing Sans and Toriel everywhere.

a lot of new shit has surfaced regarding the nature of the dark worlds, the big world ending prophecy, the roaring knight, but most of it is still ambiguous or could lead to multiple conclusions. chapter 5 will be about the festival in hometown. not sure theres any concrete evidence that asgore will be a central point but hes been appearing a lot in chapters 3 and 4 in progressively weirder and weirder situations while seeming more and more desperate so something is probably bound to snap

I really got to give Chapters 3 and 4 a proper look; didn't even realize they came out, actually. Granted, I haven't exactly been keeping up with DR, but I'd at least like to know where the story's going...

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

didn't even realize they came out, actually.

It was like 2 weeks ago, tbf

 

[Smack Patrick]

If Toby does a reversal and comes out and makes Asgore a sympathetic character (absolute zero mockery) while demonising Toriel showing it was all her fault as an alegory of how most default to siding with the women IRL overall I...
Genuinely don't how I'd react, but it would be amazing.