2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Falcos_Commisar]

The Kilo sub, in its day, was diesel-electric fitted with acoustic paneling which is to say, sheets of cork. Back in its day, when not fucked by Soviet maintenance, it was very quiet when running on batteries and resistant to active sonar. They were a legit sub and would have been a threat in the north atlantic in the 80s if things had popped off, even if they needed to surface and burn diesel to recharge their batteries.

However, in the Persian gulf, they are massively fucked as the gulf is shallow enough for satellites to see into the water.
That was also "in the 80s" and the US/NATO has spent the past 40 years developing countermeasures to the Kilo.

I also weep to think of the state of the command systems (radar, sonar, etc)

The Kilo was improved over the years and has been made under the Improved Kilo designation (Project 636)

That said the Iranain ones are the original design buutt USN and especially RN anti sub skill have probably degraded since the end of the Cold War.

Those Kilos would need to get out into the Indian ocean to cause trouble.

Iran cannot. their missiles are soviet shit and hitting targets the size of a residential area is about all they have the accuracy to pull off

Most are, some are far more modern. Their best ones might have a high meter double digit CEP.

Why did Iran build a tens of thousands of pretty decent hypersonic missiles but not build up more facilities to launch said missiles or even bother improving their AD? Like they went from launching 600+ in a day to like 30 and some shitty drones.

The VAST majority of Iranian missiles are in the Scud class or a bit bigger or smaller. Their issue is TELs (transporter erector launchers). If you have 2000+ missiles but only 250-350 TELs.... You can only launch 250-350 missiles at once.

Israel has been going after TELs extremely hard and they've verifiable killed dozens of them.

Iran is probably keeping a fair amount hidden as a "fleet in being" or last resort strategic reserve so now they're only able to fire 20-40 missiles at once.

As I've said before, most analysts ballpark Iranian missiles with a CEP of 100-300m, so this is simply not true. Iran absolutely has the ability to target specific blocks or complexes, and they instead choose to sling it at a hospital

Some are that good or even better. Some are horrible POS with 500+ meter CEP.

Iran has multiple generations of IRBMs.

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Lol, they're fucked.

 

[merpalerpaherp]

Aside from the other happenings it should be noted the US is sending more destroyers (theres currently 6 in the general area, unclear if relocations are local or from another theatre) and restocking THAAD to aid in Israels air defense. If Iran's launcher supply wasn't already cooked there is a 0% chance it survives at a large enough capacity to make a dent if this conflict lasts another week.

 

[Pendulous Dong]

No, the USS Nimitz Will Not Be Destroyed in a False Flag Operation (Archive)

 

[soy_king]

The BLM stuff is an easy own for foreigners. Basically they throw it in US face since we posture about human rights but its nonsense and hypocritical. You should know this niggerfaggot retard etc.

It's literally the old reincarnation of the Soviet phrase "А у вас негров линчуют," which translates to "And in your country, they lynch negroes" anytime the US would raise Soviet human rights violations. This somehow is more retarded, because it's based off our own perceived guilt, race hustling, and the media blowing up rare, isolated incidents out of proportion in a desperate need to report on something.

 

[draggs]

The Kilo was improved over the years and has been made under the Improved Kilo designation (Project 636)

That said the Iranain ones are the original design buutt USN and especially RN anti sub skill have probably degraded since the end of the Cold War.

Those Kilos would need to get out into the Indian ocean to cause trouble.

Let's be honest here the USN still plays footsie with Russian subs in the North Atlantic and elsewhere all the time. Chinese subs in the Pacific too. And the Russian and Chinese subs, including their own Kilos, are all better than original design Kilos despite Iran saying it's done big upgrades to them

 

[JosephStalin]

Just got these..

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

We all laughed at this, but so many people actually believe it now. Its all over TIkTok and YT.

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[GamerGateSurvivor]

No, the USS Nimitz Will Not Be Destroyed in a False Flag Operation (Archive)

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It'd a dumb false flag anyway. We didn't fall for it the first time with the USS Liberty and enough people suspect an attack on the Nimitz that they had to write that goofy article. Even if Israel somehow managed to pull it off, all they'd succeed in doing is turning the vast majority of America against them.

 

[Beardfish]

We all laughed at this, but so many people actually believe it now. Its all over TIkTok and YT.
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Calling it bullshit, WAY too many international reporters in Israel right now. This would have leaked.

 

[Jose Beaner Luna]

I know it's a joke, but the idea of all it taking for people to go from "I'll never die for those damn, dirty kikes!" to "Yes sir, Mr. Netanyahu! Anything you need, sir!" is the Ayatollah posting one pro-nigger tweet is so funny to me.

All he needs to do is to learn from shiloh and say NIGGER on his speech, he will have the entirety of the US war machine massacring towelheads in Iran that same day plus another 500 morbillion dollars to Israel.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

It'd a dumb false flag anyway. We didn't fall for it the first time with the USS Liberty and enough people suspect an attack on the Nimitz that they had to write that goofy article. Even if Israel somehow managed to pull it off, all they'd succeed in doing is turning the vast majority of America against them.

At this point they don’t need to do a false flag.

 

[SBG]

The BLM stuff is an easy own for foreigners. Basically they throw it in US face since we posture about human rights but its nonsense and hypocritical. You should know this niggerfaggot retard etc.

They really like to prey on Americans' desire to feel guilty about their past to try getting people to ignore the criticisms against their own countries. Which is pretty much the same thing groups like blacks would use it for too, to deflect criticism from themselves to say all the problems with their communities or the crime rates is because racism.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

The Axis of Retardation is seething hard now:

How retarded do you have to be to think that the Saudis would actively oppose the US in this shit. They know who helps keep their oil cartel afloat more often than not, and they have no particular love for anyone else in the region. They got their kingdom, they're not retarded enough to throw it all away to help Iran strike some Jews. Even if the Saudi's were sympathetic, their support would come in the form of quiet finances and connections, not stopping US aircraft.

If Iran did try to preemptively strike the Saudi's, all they'd do is guarantee that the entire rest of the world turns against them. Threatening the OPEC kingpin like that is threatening global energy security, even China would drop your ass with just how much they depend on energy imports.

 

[Just_Somebody]

How retarded do you have to be to think that the Saudis would actively oppose the US in this shit. They know who helps keep their oil cartel afloat more often than not, and they have no particular love for anyone else in the region. They got their kingdom, they're not retarded enough to throw it all away to help Iran strike some Jews. Even if the Saudi's were sympathetic, their support would come in the form of quiet finances and connections, not stopping US aircraft.

If Iran did try to preemptively strike the Saudi's, all they'd do is guarantee that the entire rest of the world turns against them. Threatening the OPEC kingpin like that is threatening global energy security, even China would drop your ass with just how much they depend on energy imports.

Also, lmao. The Saudis are fucking shit at war. They got humiliated by the Houthis. Attempting to go against the United States would be...unwise.

 

[Lonely khan]

It should be a law that whoever wins a war gets to re-design the losers flag.

It already kind of is

No, the USS Nimitz Will Not Be Destroyed in a False Flag Operation (Archive)

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Those crazy theories from primary sources on the ship.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/06/08/were-fed-it-survivors-of-uss-liberty-look-answers-55-years-later.html

How can anyone even conceive a plot where the US government would let 3000ish people die while incurring hundreds of millions of dollars in damage to property just to justify a war in the middle east?



These conspiracies get weirder everyday.

 

[Riverfagg1599]

No, the USS Nimitz Will Not Be Destroyed in a False Flag Operation (Archive)

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I have this mental image of a bunch of military bigwigs around a table seeing this article and getting really pissed off because now they can't pull it off, because some retard journalists had to go full sperg on some tweets he saw and accidentally legitimize any conspiracy postulations made beforehand.

 

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[Dana scully]

Iran has the most peaceful nuclear weapons program EVER!!

 

[reversbo]

Damn, all those military planes in the Mediterranean and middle eastern airspace have gone home or dark, no C17, no A400, no C130, no tankers, etc. Except a LM-100J Hercules of all things. Am I just heavily retarded and don't know how to do this or is this really fucking strange?

 

[FedPostalService]

It's literally the old reincarnation of the Soviet phrase "А у вас негров линчуют," which translates to "And in your country, they lynch negroes" anytime the US would raise Soviet human rights violations. This somehow is more retarded, because it's based off our own perceived guilt, race hustling, and the media blowing up rare, isolated incidents out of proportion in a desperate need to report on something.

That worked when Biden was in charge, not when the God-Emperor of Mankind is on the Golden Throne.