US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[mlanguishi]

When China makes a real move on Taiwan.

No shithole third world conflict is going to start a big war like that anymore. Countries are too stable for that and even the crazy dictators are too comfortable these days.

China is not going to make the same mistake as Putin. When they make their move they're going to be ready and it's going to be big.

China can bomb Taiwan into obvlivion but I still don't see how they move an invasion force there about like D-Day size without it being stopped en route. I think people watched Red Dawn type movies too much.

 

[Null]

Unless the bulk of the pacific fleet seemingly collapses overnight invading Taiwan will always be a dumb move for a country who counts fishing boats as part of their navy

This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.

I'm not fucking wargaming this, I'm just explaining how a world war works.

 

[CertifiedFedBot]

All of this China Taiwan talk assumes that China is dumb enough to sever their most lucrative trade deals with those in the US/NATO sphere of influence. China will be a paper tiger as long as its internal stability is dependent on foreign money flowing in, Taiwan is simply not important enough to risk all that, not to mention actual retaliation. They'll cope and sneed but that's about as far it'll go, they'd much sooner go for their sandnigger and pajeet neighbours before Taiwan.

This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.

This operates under the assumption that the "international community" doesn't change its mind depending on the direction of the wind. Currently it's a good thing to be nice to China, if china loses power or economic stability, it'll be a good thing to hate China, satellite nations of superpowers are fickle and won't tie themselves to anything unless forced to.

I don't think israel will though, they want to behead the snake.

Isreal nuking themselves in 5... 4... 3...

 

[harmacist]

Do I like seeing "Zion Don" support Israel? Nope, not a bit, but who really gives a fuck about this. In a month this will be forgotten. It's not WW3.

i give a fuck because its more unnecessary bullshit that we may have to deal with. there are so many possible consequences from this action and my point is why get involved at all? to help israel yet again? whats the point of doing anything at all?

 

[MrJokerRager]

America is now finally great again.

 

[deleuzeon]

i give a fuck because its more unnecessary bullshit that we may have to deal with. there are so many possible consequences from this action and my point is why get involved at all? to help israel yet again? whats the point of doing anything at all?

I'm not in love with it either, but hey. It's better to be the nation that might unpredictably bomb your fucking ass if you pipe up than to be the nation that will not do shit.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Nah, I’m off the Trump train.

Not just because it’ll probably spin out of control for him, but also because fuck. I can’t in good conscience support someone dumb enough to get swindled by neocons and low tier IQ likes like Levin.

I still like Vance though. And Trump was (probably!) better than the alternative. Kamala would probably have gotten the US involved in Ukraine, which would be even worse.

Same here maybe some might be on the Trump train I'm off it because I know the blowback will be bad and terrible.
It might sound crazy but I'm more Thomas Massie rand Paul than Ted Cruz.

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While fat packs has to wear a burger suit he is right about the forever war shit.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Look at the bright side. The player count for Battlefield 3 went up. When was the last time a multiplayer game player count went up because of a real war or political incident?

 

[evilsponge]

Thank God Trump is breaking the cycle of endless wars in the Middle East

 

[Talented Stalker 56]

This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.

I'm not fucking wargaming this, I'm just explaining how a world war works.

Devil's advocate- the U.S machine demands war blood. There are a million faulty casus belli for war with China, but we only need to use one. Then we have a war to inspire and scare the population with.

Economic stressors, riots in the streets, rampant social strife. All fixed with a good ol' fashioned generation wiping war with China.
Russia is too gay, old, and cantankerous for us to use as our playmate now. The party demands a spry Oceania.

 

[harmacist]

It's better to be the nation that might unpredictably bomb your fucking ass if you pipe up than to be the nation that will not do shit.

what kind of nigger mentality is this? we have to start a chain reaction so we dont get perceived as weak?

 

[deleuzeon]

what kind of nigger mentality is this? we have to start a chain reaction so we dont get perceived as weak?

A chain reaction? It hasn't happened. It's in your mind.

 

[Talented Stalker 56]

what kind of nigger mentality is this? we have to start a chain reaction so we dont get perceived as weak?

We just want to take the American culture of nigga moments to a wider global stage.

 

[Sneed Force One]

One thing is for certain, at the cost of sending its men into the Ukie meatgrinder to pretend to expansionism, Russia's geopolitical aims in the middle east is getting decimated.

 

[harmacist]

A chain reaction? It hasn't happened. It's in your mind.

so there can be no possible negative side effects of doing this? big time retard

 

[Autistic Nonetheless]

What's the point of discussing all this shit without consequence.

For what it's worth the Iranian response of 'nothing is damaged and everything was moved out long ago' is an indication that they don't plan on retaliating directly. The US intentionally didn't use any of the mideast bases and apparently even gave direct warnings beforehand.

It's probably going to be something like the Soleimani killing (which was much more consequential and confrontational) or at least that's what Trump hopes for.

 

[deleuzeon]

so there can be no possible negative side effects of doing this? big time retard

There haven't been any, and there probably won't be any either. Then you will slink off back to being a non-posting 2018 account.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

When China makes a real move on Taiwan.

I think people watched Red Dawn type movies too much.

America is now finally great again.

Thank God Trump is breaking the cycle of endless wars in the Middle East

My key prediction for upcoming long term developments is that Western countries may seek to portray the BRICS nations collectively as a significant geopolitical challenge. For example, Trump's tariffs indicate a serious concern regarding BRICS countries. Currently, public attention appears to be shifting away from traditional issues such as Islamic terrorism and white supremacy, and some progressive voices are hesitant to emphasize China as a primary concern due to sensitivities around accusations of racism. Consequently, framing BRICS as a unified threat could serve to consolidate geopolitical narratives by addressing China, Russia, and Middle Eastern nations under a single strategic focus. BRICs will become the next big politically correct enemy. Arma 3 and call of duty pushing the idea of a BRICS like organization becoming NATO like.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

Man I really can't wait for something more interesting to happen because this desert war shit is always the most boring and overplayed politics conversation.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Man I really can't wait for something more interesting to happen because this desert war shit is always the most boring and overplayed politics conversation.

I wanted Iran to get a nuke so they could move it to Yemen and use it on a hypersonic missile to hit a US carrier.

That shit would have been hilarious.